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Description Here's one that owes just about everything to Frank Miller, except that little earring. frank draws many earrings but never on his male protagonists.
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Libra1010 [2014-04-14 15:35:12 +0000 UTC]

 It has just struck me that I would LOVE to see Mr Mike Mignola illustrate an edition of The Hobbit - I'm not sure if fellow fans of Professor Tolkien would agree, but something about his style strikes me as well-suited to THIS tale of Middle-Earth at least (and quite possibly others).

 Shortly thereafter it struck me that Mr Frank Miller and 'A Song of Ice and Fire' would fit together perfectly (not least because it has been pointed out to me that 'A Game of Thrones' is basically Film Noir with a side-order of Feudalism, especially from the perspective of Lord Eddard Stark), although I'm not sure if the results would be beautiful or terrible!

 ALSO … Master Mohan, I read your remark over in Ms. Jubah's gallery that her work reminded you of 'Age of Bronze' by Mr Eric Shallower Blind Homer's favourite literary heir (or he should be, for Age of Bronze is a work of art fit to hang up on your wall in my opinion); the mental image of a graphic novel adaption of The Silmarillion put together with the degree of craftsmanship and sheer imagination seen in Mr Shanower's masterpiece followed hard on it's heels.

 Put mildly I have only just been able to uncross my eyes from a euphoric high that had nothing to do with anything so prosaic as drugs (and I used to think that I was the sensible, low-key sort of Fan ...).    

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Libra1010 [2014-04-14 12:45:33 +0000 UTC]

 I just wanted to pop in and say that I mostly agree with your description of Mr Frank Miller, for I would agree that he was at one point possessed of a formidable genius (powerful, although not graceful) although I would also argue that it has either been proven to be excessively concentrated on a single genre and into a single character (guess who … although one might argue that 'All Star Batman and Robin' can be construed as evidence that this genius has dated badly); while 'Dark Knight Returns' is a formidable piece of work, I'd argue that 'Batman Year One' is much better not least because it does not incorporate other superheroes into the plot to be - in my opinion - wilfully misinterpreted in the interest of making Batman THE HERO when he should be part of an ensemble (also because the opposition seems a bit more credibly nasty, rather than overblown).

 This is a bad habit that far too many writers have been influenced by to the point where Batman, a character that should be the living epitome of human fortitude and resolve - to the degree that it allows him to stand up and be counted not least in an assembly of 'demigods' - to an antisocial bully (quite frankly Batman looks a whole lot less crazy, despite his genuine obsessive tendencies and a paranoia that seems a lot more appropriate in a Universe of Villains infinitely more powerful than he, especially if he's shown as able to work well with the likes of Wonder Woman, Superman, Green Lantern, The Flash, Black Canary).

 
 AHEM; there speaks a Four Colour traditionalist and ardent fan of 'Batman: The Brave and the Bold' on a subject perhaps better reserved for those less inclined to unfavourable comparisons between Mr Miller and others (I apologise for taking advantage of your gallery to do so).


 On a slightly less preachy note, I do indeed admire your ink-art quite as much as your pencil-work Master Mohan and find this piece singularly interesting, as well as much prettier than Mr Miller's art has been recently (although I'm no snob when it comes to art that's more ruggedly handsome than pretty - Mr Frank Quitely is a personal favourite and for all the dynamism, fluidity and impressive scope of his art it's certainly 'rugged'), for I would regard that comparison to Mr Mike Mignola as the greater compliment, for something about the almost primitive style of Mr Mignola certainly registers as genius in my view (something about that style which seems more carved like a woodcut than pencilled and can convey atmosphere with an extraordinary economy …).  

 I'm not so blind that I can't see the influence of Mr Miller, but in your case Master Mohan I'd say that the student has bettered the example! (I must admit - and quite possibly reiterate - that I would love to see you try your pencils or your pen at producing a Justice League; I'll just add the idea to the 'When I strike it rich' column, which is currently teetering at a height approximately comparable to the Leaning Tower of Pisa … were it set straight once again).


 I shall conclude here by wishing you well Master Mohan and hoping that I don't sound like a ranting eccentric (I don't mind being eccentric, much less being called eccentric, but I would hate to become one of those ranters that comes along and spoils someone's day OR their night!). 
 

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ElrondPeredhel [2013-07-29 12:54:22 +0000 UTC]

Glad we share so many thougts (and not only on Tolkien and World of Warcraft). I'm waiting for "Holy Traitors" now ! Hope you'll be able to take back your art studies, even if your art is already fabulous, I know we can always learn and art schools can be good places for that (one day I'm gonna do that as an "amateur" to get a little better... when I'll have time ).

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ElrondPeredhel [2013-07-10 12:13:20 +0000 UTC]

... May be cause giving an ear-ring to a man will be too much "gayish" for this m'f'in' nazi/neo-con I guess, apart from being such a great artist in drawing (and also in scenarios at some point), I really hate F.Miller's ideas. I think part of maturity in the art field is being able to make the difference between an artist and his work. I don't know if it has to do with the hability to take what you love in an art piece and reject what you don't need or if it's more linked to the psychological phasis when you realize your dad isn't a super-hero. ^^

An excellent piece, as usual, really dynamic. I regret that my artistic's skills are not sufficient to make interisting critics of your work. What amaze me is that I really like your "LotR style" with this Minas Tirith's parchment look but your other drawings are in a completely different style (somewhere between Miller and Mignola for most) and that's still pretty impressive.

I kinda understood that you did study art. Are you still a student or not anymore ?

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TurnerMohan In reply to ElrondPeredhel [2013-07-10 19:38:48 +0000 UTC]

This one was done as a piece of concept art for a friend who was writing a goofy, overblown crime noir satire about an irish hitman for the mob (the project was since given up on, more's the pity, it had potential)

We share very similar thoughts about the artistic genius and roaring asshole that is frank miller. While I'm a great admirer of his artwork (and to some degree of his craft as a terse, kinetic storyteller) his politics, philosophy, and general opinions (all of which seem to have gotten more pronounced as he's gotten older, but, as many 80's miller fans will never admit, have been present in his work and largely unaltered the whole time) are atrocious, childish, hero-worshipping, thuggish and just plain idiotic.
I had an idea some time ago (intended to both pay homage to miller as an artist and grill him as a writer) to do a book called "Holy Traitors," a sort of unofficial sequel to "holy terror," inspired by miller's remarks about the "Occupy Wall Street" movement, where a superhero (who is obviously a knock off of the Fixer, the way he was obviously a knock off of batman) goes after the 'occupy' protestors with the same zeal, bloodlust, and worn-into-the-ground dirty harry oneliners the fixer went after al-qaeda with in "terror." I've already got it written (or rather, miller's writing is so easy to parody that it really wrote itself) I dont know when I'll have the time for it, but hopefully sooner rather than later.

I suppose my style is quite different in pen from how it is in pencil. chalk that up to different influences, and different subject material. while miller's muscular, frazetta-esque, zero gravity, black and white intensity works well for comics (incomparably well, in my opinion) you couldn't use it for something like middle earth, or really anything except 20th century pop noir, part of why 300 never quite worked for me.

actually, to cite frazetta, that's a big part of why i think he could never do tolkien, everything he painted was too robust, too individually heroic, in that nietzschian superman sort of way, one of the very successful parts of alan lee's tolkien illustrations (for example) is how small and humble even the great men or elves look beside the vast, timeless landscapes of ME itself. I think of tolkien and Frazetta as basically the dual founding fathers of modern "world of warcraft" style fantasy fiction (literary and artistic, respectively) and the pairing is, I believe, badly mismatched, resulting in these pseudo-tolkienian worlds of deep history and varied populations, but nearly every inhabitant of which is as muscled up and badass as conan.

In answer to your last question I am no longer an art student (I never finished, though I would like to pick it up again)

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