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Reifgrimm [2020-02-08 08:57:57 +0000 UTC]
Right, so, female slaves so much outnumber male slaves that the latter might as well not exist, and if no male desired being a slave anymore, it would practically die out, yes?
Scotia initially wanted to enslave ALL women, correct? The pictures suggest there is at least some number of non-slave females. How much of the general population of women is, currently, enslaved in this world? Are mistresses a significant majority, or about half, or a vanishingly small amount?
Are natural-born women less likely to be slaves than the products of genetic tampering? The pictures also mention alien creatures. Are they actually aliens, or genetically engineered? If they are aliens, did they adopt a model of enslaving some/most of their females too? By force, or cultural appropriation of Earth customs, or did they have such systems in place already before first contact (assuming they're not just Terran transplants)?
Thank you in advance!
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uberis In reply to Reifgrimm [2020-02-08 18:06:13 +0000 UTC]
The market for male slaves is at least ten times smaller than the one for females. It still persists though, and certain types of male are highly sought after by owners of specific tastes. However, since the slave-positive propaganda doesn't promote male slavery, males have to keep on being free people for the most part.
Scotia had the ambition to enslave every female, but she was destroyed before she could achieve her lofty goal. About 4% of the female population is currently enslaved. A much more modest number, though this is expected to rise slightly as time passes. For more information on slavery in the world, seeΒ
Right now, the number of enslaved natural girls vastly outnumber the enhanced ones. The alien slavegirls are currently among the most rare of enslaved people right now. Alien slaves are also in category of their own since The Treaty that governs what the major players are allowed to do explicitly forbids unauthorised space exploration or militarization. This is to prevent an arms race or land grab that wouldΒ most likely destroy the multiverse, given the powerlevel of the people involved.
While many extraterrestrial civilizations with wildy various governance forms have been identified, it's currently forbidden to attempt any sort of contact with them. Enslavement of aliens is therefore a very stealthy and clandestine affair, and great care is taken to ensure that no one else but the abductees in question notices the presence of earthlings. Natually this also requires a strict quota for the number of aliens taken, which makes them few in number.
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Reifgrimm In reply to uberis [2020-02-09 01:06:21 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for the swift answers.
Only 4%? I am quite surprised! Though perhaps I fell victim, so to speak, to the ubiquitous depictions of slavery. It made it look very natural. Exactly like to the people in your world, I wager, and as noted, likely one of the reasons the number will increasy steadily.
Those alien girls seem to take rather well to being abducted and enslaved. Is that due to the techniques used? You know, up to and uncluding outright brainwashing, judging from some pics? Or do the teams only take those with a high affinity for submitting? Is such an affinity wide-spread, if it exists at all? Is it a mix of all of those factors?
My apologies if I'm flooding you with questions, the topic is just so interesting, you see.
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uberis In reply to Reifgrimm [2020-02-09 23:21:36 +0000 UTC]
It was decided that the transition to a slave-society would be as gentle as possible in order to preserve stability and to manage any unpredictabilites or societal upheaval that such a severe change would bring with it. With the world as complex as it is already, even small unknowns might have great consequences. The slavegirl quotas are actively monitored and restricted in order to prevent these unknowns. That said, currently the bottelneck lies in infrastructure and logistics and once these are expanded on, the percentage will go up.
Alien slavegirls are mostly like any other girls. While it would be ideal to only abduct submissive and willing victims, there are rarely opportunities for doing more than a cursory screening beforehand, so some resistant vicitims will inevitably get picked up. Still, since all these captives are handled by the big players, training or mind manipulation are mere trivialities for taming them should they prove too resistant. Though as a general rule, outright brainwashing or personality rewrite is only used sparingly and as a last resort since it "damages the product" and most slave owners prefer slaves with all-natural personalities.
For more tangentially related information, read this and the assocated comments:
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Reifgrimm In reply to uberis [2020-02-11 04:41:03 +0000 UTC]
Thank you once again. Well, not at all in the complete interest of personal fetishes, I hope this world's societies will make swift strides to overome these obstacles!
Hmm. It's a good thing they have all those restrictions in place. Or some extra-unscrupulous individuals or entities might come up with some really bad stuff. Like genetically engineering look-alikes of a certain alien species, tweaked to find slavery intoxicating and given a great libido and fertility, and letting them mix into the indigenous population. Sounds like all the tools would be in place.
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suzzen12 [2019-08-03 12:18:23 +0000 UTC]
Love wish I was in one
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TheMrRoc [2018-08-29 01:55:34 +0000 UTC]
I can tell you didn't bother to proof read.Β Β
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uberis In reply to ugiel [2018-07-06 21:03:24 +0000 UTC]
Naw only heard about it. Closest I've gotten is probably Civ. Does something remind you of the game?
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uberis In reply to ugiel [2018-07-09 21:53:06 +0000 UTC]
Ah I see. Well perhaps these distinctions are intuitive enough to be pretty common among different works of fiction. For me it simply felt natural to categorize my creations like this. I probably got inspired from somewhere, but I wouldn't be able to tell you from where.
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TheMrRoc In reply to uberis [2018-08-29 02:01:20 +0000 UTC]
I think these are common tropes. I've used them in my own pencil and paper RPG's (mainly some classic Traveller worlds from way back in the early 80s and I probably got those from somewhere or something I'd seen or read--probably anime?). This is a good spin, I've done the slave owning as prestige things akin to fancy accessories (Nice stereo, nice video screen, nice lamps, nice slave...).
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uberis In reply to TheMrRoc [2018-08-29 16:49:34 +0000 UTC]
Yeah it does make sense in an economy where import, automation and cheap labor have made it financially inefficient to employ slaves for menial tasks. Not to mention the fact that more and more jobs now require specialized employees that you are better off just renting when in need. You are probably not going to send a slave through school just to have it be able to do your accounting, fix your car or cut your hair.
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Boundguy1220 [2018-07-04 23:50:49 +0000 UTC]
Very cool stuff here! I always appreciate when artists go the extra mile to worldbuild!
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chiselbit2 [2018-02-22 10:58:03 +0000 UTC]
Great stuff my dude. Glad you went to the effort for us.
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uberis In reply to chiselbit2 [2018-02-22 17:27:49 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, glad some people find it interesting.
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Daggerhammer [2018-02-19 02:03:59 +0000 UTC]
Given the general state of the world, I have to imagine there's some considerable pressure put on 'not even as good as regular' humans, such as those with a birth defect or something.Β I also imagine despite the more balanced state of affairs there must be quite a lot of 'normal' humans way more than a little resentful of those who hold power just because 'I have superpowers and you don't'.
An interesting world, and one I'm sure it's great to be rich or super powerful in.
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uberis In reply to Daggerhammer [2018-02-19 16:15:19 +0000 UTC]
Since the world turned slightly wealthier overall, people are generally more accepting towards those with defects. Frankly, a handicapped slave might be more prestigious than a fully functional one since it shows that her owner both has the means of caring for her and the empathic fortitude to see beyond her weakness. There will always be those jealous of not having superpowers, but this isn't any different from those wishing they were born as kings in our world. Those that actually have superpowers are usually clever enough to know that there is always someone stronger, and bullying someone weaker will lead to you answering to someone in the end.
I'm not sure about the rich and powerful being that happy, given the limitations that are in place. The most powerful beings are only allowed to operate on a fraction of their strength in their daily lives, as to not violate the Treaty. This brings with it a special set of frustrations that are currently dealt with by certain mutual health projects between the major organizations. Sure, it's probably more interesting than being a regular human, but it's not like you can do whatever you want. As for those simply being really rich, you still have to worry that RD has a high probability to choose you, your daughter or your wife as a slave just to make a point of it. Or the Organizations might just decide that you are upsetting the balance by being too wealthy and expropriate some of your assets.
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Daggerhammer In reply to uberis [2018-02-20 00:16:24 +0000 UTC]
That just makes it seem even more aggravating to a person in my mindset.Β Not only are you poor, even if you DO get wealthy through hard work and blood, sweat, and tears, you have a triple whammy: you're probably not even close to the born wealthy (as normal), if you DO make it someone else can just say 'Oh hey, a large part of your fortune is now ours for balance purposes AND that hot wife of yours and your daughter are now someone else's property', AND if you're not born superhuman the odds are at best you'll always be second rate for the simple fact you weren't born with superpowers, though arguably you could get stuck full of cyberbits if you have the right connections and all I suppose.
As someone born with both physical disadvantages and an extremely predatory mentality, it was hard enough to not do something insane just from being poor in the real world.Β I'm not saying the bulk of people wouldn't put their heads down and get on with living, but people like me must be set to go friggin' ballistic in a world like that.
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uberis In reply to Daggerhammer [2018-02-20 17:32:40 +0000 UTC]
It's true that the people that have had most trouble adapting to the current state of things are those driven by lust for power and material wealth. Most other people accept the current state of affairs as simply another one of the other infinite things in their lives that's out of their control, and simply play the hand that they are dealt. Then again, unless you are part of the 1% you are very unlikely to be targeted anyways.
As for cybernetics, ZH recruits members based on merit and suitability alone. While normal prosthetics are readily available to the general public, military grade equipment are reserved solely for those worthy.
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Daggerhammer In reply to uberis [2018-02-20 21:59:47 +0000 UTC]
Eh, I'm just going off what I'd be like in a situation like that.Β I was born with some minor-but-not-crippling physical issues and some serious aggression problems, and a world with a superhuman elite would probably drive me utterly batty.Β After all, before the cereal-bowl-of-medications-a-day I've gotten to, the real one already almost did and that's with just TWO layers of people holding themselves above everyone.
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uberis In reply to Daggerhammer [2018-02-20 23:26:00 +0000 UTC]
Sorry to hear about your pain and I hope you'll manage. I suppose it could help to focus on what we have rather than what we don't, and that goes for all of us.
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Daggerhammer In reply to uberis [2018-02-21 00:13:01 +0000 UTC]
Eh, it's been a lifelong thing and I've carved out a life for myself in spite of and/or because of it all.Β It's been an interesting ride hee!Β For what it's worth I do think your world is an interesting one, I just don't think I'd be able to live in it without eventually getting together some large quantities of explosives!
I look forward to the stories that come out of it though.
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KindlyCruel [2018-02-19 00:41:56 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, very interesting. Is it okay if I ask a few questions?
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uberis In reply to KindlyCruel [2018-02-19 16:14:48 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is.
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KindlyCruel In reply to uberis [2018-02-19 21:38:48 +0000 UTC]
Cool. First off, do slaves have any rights in this society, or can their owners do literally whatever they want to them?
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uberis In reply to KindlyCruel [2018-02-19 22:44:40 +0000 UTC]
Slaves have their own bill of rights. These laws govern general treatment as well as rules about selling and monitoring, but in short you could say that "no permanent damage" is the gist of it. Owners can be dealt severe penalties for not abiding by these rules. Body modifications are allowed, but they must first be cleared with an RD official and may in certain cases require a special license for the owner.
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KindlyCruel In reply to uberis [2018-02-20 01:47:14 +0000 UTC]
Ah, I see. That makes the bit about enslavement to a kind master being a good opportunity for advancement make a lot more sense.
Can only women become slaves? Or perhaps first I should ask, do men even exist in this world? Because I've yet to see any.
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uberis In reply to KindlyCruel [2018-02-20 18:41:04 +0000 UTC]
Well the meta reason for no male presence is that I really don't enjoy drawing or thinking about them as much as I do girls. Males do technically exist in my world, they just aren't shown. The in-universe justification for supehuman women is that the engineers that designed them were straight men that liked designing subservient women. As for extraordinary humans being female, It's due to the extended genome that comes with the XX-chromosome.
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uberis In reply to KindlyCruel [2018-02-20 22:57:30 +0000 UTC]
Men technically can be slaves too, but noone really bothers with it. Scotias original idea was to enslave all the women in the world as vengeance for the bondage suffersed by her and her RD sisters. This notion didn't completely die even after the war, a testament of her undying will. Generally, female slaves outnumber male ones at least fifty to one.
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KindlyCruel In reply to uberis [2018-02-21 01:45:32 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense. Is there a way for a slave to stop being a slave?
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