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supermariokid2005 [2024-07-26 21:17:01 +0000 UTC]

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kingchristine [2020-12-09 18:40:05 +0000 UTC]

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Frostbite883 [2018-07-30 02:28:29 +0000 UTC]

superjuca: Can't you BM/WW fans try and be a little more mature?

Me: And speaking of (immature) BM/WW fans....

ShiyaHawk: I have to say it, I'm sorry.

Even though SMWW isn't that great, it's still a better love story than Twilight. (BMWW forever!)

Me: Also, daChoasKitty should've REALLY gotten out of their narrow-mindedness way back and embrace the new.

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RochestersJane [2016-08-21 22:52:08 +0000 UTC]

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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shadowcub1 [2015-05-20 05:18:52 +0000 UTC]

LOL.

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Themyscira1234 [2014-12-15 14:18:27 +0000 UTC]

this is the funniest moment i have ever seen oh he- nice job

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Rosalind-WT [2014-07-13 04:45:15 +0000 UTC]

LOL I am super happy!
Finally! A world without Louis Lane!!!

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Stealwave In reply to Rosalind-WT [2015-03-25 18:29:45 +0000 UTC]

Louis?

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HeroComplex4 [2014-06-26 17:58:05 +0000 UTC]

Lol

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Delev8r [2014-02-23 23:07:34 +0000 UTC]

Haters are gonna hate. Whoever doesn't like this should just read a Clois fanfic and quit bitching on a WWSM site.

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RochestersJane In reply to Delev8r [2016-08-21 22:33:21 +0000 UTC]

YAY! Amen

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deadislandfan [2014-02-05 21:41:35 +0000 UTC]

Which movie is this?

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Rosalind-WT In reply to deadislandfan [2014-07-13 04:48:47 +0000 UTC]

Justice League: War(2014)

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deadislandfan In reply to deadislandfan [2014-03-07 23:42:34 +0000 UTC]

Never mind, I have it now.

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ShiyaHawk [2014-01-31 20:01:57 +0000 UTC]

I have to say it, I'm sorry.

Even though SMWW isn't that great, it's still a better love story than Twilight. (BMWW forever!)

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godstaff [2014-01-29 03:34:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah!

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1stSuperboyFan [2014-01-27 21:49:12 +0000 UTC]

I don't get why the don't date each other they did in flashpoint. I always find that the easy way to tie up this in pairing war's just pair your ex with your girlfriend/boyfriend's ex.

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Mami02 [2014-01-24 08:40:02 +0000 UTC]

Haven't seen that movie yet, but I hope I can see it sometime. It's good to see them interacting like this. I hope there is more.

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Sithous [2014-01-24 07:04:28 +0000 UTC]

Haha good work it totally goes because they are puny haters compared to this couple who are more confident with each other to fall into jelousy. 


Good work and hope to see more of this from the movie, they do have several more scenes together and about them. 

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superjuca [2014-01-24 03:19:07 +0000 UTC]

I don't really understand the need of fans of other pairings to comment on SM/WW art.

Sometimes I open BM/WW art, they have some great artists, I have to admit. And I have never seen any SM/WW fan comment that they don't like that pairing.

Can't you BM/WW fans try and be a little more mature?  

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WOLFBLADE111 In reply to superjuca [2016-08-19 22:38:14 +0000 UTC]

Probably has something to do with The Batman fanboys since their rather...immature to put it lightly.

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Nitish-Loneshark In reply to superjuca [2014-10-05 14:55:56 +0000 UTC]

I swear, I have seen so many BMWW shippers in SMWW contents, always saying, "Oh, I prefer Batman and Wonder Woman over Superman and Wonder Woman", "Superman and Wonder Woman is more of a fan-fiction, they shouldn't be together", "I can't see Superman and Wonder Woman together, she's Batman's Girl". Damn, so annoying to see them in forums, facebook and youtube comments as well. SMWW are together in canon now DEAL WITH IT. Also, Wonder Woman is no ones girl; She is chooses whoever she wants, just like Superman and Batman are independent with their relationships.

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Sithous In reply to superjuca [2014-01-31 07:53:51 +0000 UTC]

More mature?? That might be asking waaay too much considering is a pairing that has never really been canon and cartoon episodes doesn't count that was just some wishful thinking from a fanboy so they have never been a couple at ALL, they might have dabble with the notion but nothing has ever come to be official and canon and either character ever wanted it, compared to Diana and Clark who they DID wanted it but decided in the old comics to remain friends but the feelings were there...they have always been there. 


Thank Rao and the Greek Gods I'm a SM&WW shipper and now I can finally enjoy it for canon, comics, animated movies and maybe one day the big screen as well. 


It's a good time to enjoy the Superman and Wonder Woman comic for their relationship it's actually real and happening in the DC universe. 

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-04 17:49:00 +0000 UTC]

So, we're not counting Blackest Night?

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-04 23:33:09 +0000 UTC]

I didn't read much about blackest night and it was just a kiss but not really love or going into a relationship so it never went further than a just kiss at least from what I've heard, that Batman has never really dated or went into a relationship with Diana. He has kissed her a few times one like blackest night in order to save Diana because I reckon she was turned by the power of  the ring, another time in trinity and that's because Batman was stunned being in paradise island and saw Diana all beautiful and all he did was steal a kiss for wich in return Diana punched him in the Jaw and told him no one man handles her quite pissed off so the kiss was not asked nor welcomed, (compared to Superman's kiss he stole right away on their first date and cought Diana by surprise but she didn't mind it nor punched him) other than that the main source of the only flirtation between Bruce and Diana was in the non cannon cartoons and even there Batman wasn't interested and pushed Diana away, he sang? yes, he saved her? yes but she is a friend, a fellow member of the JL, so he will always help and save those who need to be saved. 

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-05 00:38:40 +0000 UTC]

Actually, even Zatanna said that there was more between them in that episode.  And don't forget the scene in Blackest Night here: i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/…
There are also scenes like this, sometimes: static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__c…

Personally, I prefer Steve with Diana.

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-05 00:53:21 +0000 UTC]

Many will always love Diana she is amazing and it wouldn't be any surprise that Bruce would feel that way too but other than that they've never went to anything more compared to what Bruce always have with Selina and even Talia. Even Diana checked in a possible escenarios machine how would it be and even after that they just stay as friends because both knew it wouldn't work and both agreed on that. As with Superman even in previous cannon they had feelings for each other, shared kisses and spend time together only not able to be a couple because DC married him wich eventually got smarted and scrapped the marriage. 


Personally I never liked steve, he was more of a puppy love attached to Diana's leg but not trully worthy and playing more of the mansel in distress for a pilot or whatever military rank they gave him and they haven't been a couple for decades. In the new 52 they started as just mentioned that they were a couple but it was never shown and right from the start they weren't a couple so once again Diana started her new 52 run single just as Superman, not to mention in her solo book steve doesn't even exist in that story. I'm glad they didn't cling to steve anymore.


As for Kal-El and Diana they have always had more chemestry and than with any other of the league uncluding batman, be that in previous cannon, in elseworlds and now in the new 52 and their own book tittle. I like that they have changed some of those things because it was getting boring the same lois and clark, the same steve pinning over for Diana. 

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UNrealDEAN In reply to Sithous [2014-02-05 08:22:40 +0000 UTC]

out with the old, in with new.

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Sithous In reply to UNrealDEAN [2014-02-05 10:33:56 +0000 UTC]

Exactly!! out with the old and in with the new, lois and Clark are played sooo many times or all the time that it just turned plain boring except for the traditionalist and old timers who still like that relationship and can't move on with the evolution of the characters away from each other, lois will never grow as a true main character if she is always stick to superman even if she is parth of the mythos she can rarely get to shine on her own compared to Superman who can and Diana as well who can shine on her own in her own comics and then bringing them together to develop new stories not knowing what will happen. Something it can not be done with lois because if she even gets superpowers then she'll stop being lois lane the reporter and just lois lane some powered freak, it's like a formula starting with lois either not knowing Superman's secret or having to save or rescue her. 


With steve...well...he would love to keep playing big brother looking after naive Diana in the man's world or be the mansel in distress...not a quality in any male character. Compared to Superman who is not mansel in distress nor Diana and they both help each other and fight side by side and learn and share things in their relationship. 

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-05 08:19:10 +0000 UTC]

Eh, it's the classics. But, I suppose everyone needs to screw with those anymore.

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-05 10:36:23 +0000 UTC]

The world changing, societies developing and yet some want to cling to classics instead of getting on board into something new and different. Those who usually are on board are the ones who welcome change and evolution and adaptation be that in anything in their lives. 

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-05 21:02:53 +0000 UTC]

Guess it's easier to change what creators intend instead of being original.   Classics are what they are for a reason, usually.  But, I suppose we could find a way to mix Baum and Fitzgerald.

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-06 03:54:19 +0000 UTC]

Are you sure about what the creators intended? Then why name one Super and the other Wonder? (just as why name one Bat and the other Cat) why giving them both the same sort of powers, beliefs, morals, principles even when they grew up in seperate places? Why they seem to be more of Adam and Eve, made for each other who can share and bring things to a relationship of true equals instead of bringing them down to blend them among those who are not like them? with those who can not possibly understand what it's like to be them. 


It couldn't be done before but now they time is right and cought up and so it's happening, if it was easier both characters would've appear in all the media together a long time ago...writing lois is easy, giving her challenges it's easy and create moments of peril and risk it's also easy that's why writers can do it all the time and just swoop Superman in there and save the day and there you've got your heroics of the story. With Diana the risks are different, the challenges are greater, she doesn't need to be saved nor rescued so she is no damsel for the hero to save, so what to do? bring the heroes together and together tackle the threats and form a relationship. Classics serve as a foundation, knowing the classics it's okay...stick to the classics means never to grow nor develop neither adapt and time changes.

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-06 04:09:00 +0000 UTC]

How do I know what the creators had in mind?  Look up "The K Metal Men from Krypton." Jerry intended for  Lois to not only find out Supes was Clark, but also have her team up with him... A decision  the higher ups at DC decided to veto.

On top of that, Marston made Diana with the idea that women should have power over men. His personal life strongly influenced that. Clark never struck me as a Submissive. It was after Marston's death that people decided to change his vision.

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-06 06:29:22 +0000 UTC]

Really?! cool! now I know. 


Well then...I see that it all worked out for the best!! because those plans for lois would've looked boring so I guess they went for the lesser evil. 


It would've looked very out of character for Superman to be submissive and Diana back then wouldn't have been very popular in the comics (wich I guess she wasn't and it explains for all the knocking her up, tying her up and traps that I saw in covers back then) good thing that things once again changed and that change led to how things are now with Superman and Wonder Woman and as a couple. 

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-06 13:54:03 +0000 UTC]

You really are very single-minded...

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-06 14:12:12 +0000 UTC]

So the arguments are over and now we move to the personal comments hehe, where as for me I haven't said a single thing about you just the fictional pairings even when I could  

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-06 21:03:04 +0000 UTC]

It was more a comment on how you use such logic to take away from  the creators' intent, attempting to justify it.  Personally, if someone took my creations and bastardized or butchered them, I'd be pretty  ticked.

It sort of reminds me of some arguments  for the SM/WW ship, coming from essentially, "He wears blue, yellow, and red, so does  she, they should get together!"   There are qualities the pre-N52 Dina had that Clark couldn't  come to terms  with. Her killing of Maxwell Lord, for example.

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Sithous In reply to daChaosKitty [2014-02-06 23:51:24 +0000 UTC]

That's why Shakespeare killed his characters so he had the story, plot and ending and no one could changed it, romeo will always die, Juliet will always have conflict with the fact of the families and her love for him and that will never be changed, that's a classic no matter how many shippers there could be that's the story and there can't be any other way. As for the characters these creators came up with...if they wanted them unchanged and never develop other paths then they could've just simply killed them but they didn't, they left them open to changes, new paths, other relationships, more villians than just Lex luthor, another love than just plain lois. The point that seeing it as "oh no it's bastardized" or "it's butchered!" sounds more narrow minded than me wanting both of them together and as couple and saying that are meant for each other for the similiarities, as well as bringing more to the table for their differences in more ways than just be with a simple human reporter or just a pilot that most of the times are about saving them from perils or used to do the mundane things humans do when it can be very well done between Superman and Wonder Woman in disguise for other but not for eachother. 


They do seemed to have mirror images in colors, even as just pure usage for a plot the example also appears in the da vinci code with what it was used to say it was mary magdalene and jesus wearing same colors in the last supper, or for something less religious and less artworked, batman and Catwoman they also shared colors and style in costumes. Visually, they look good together because they match...it gives a sense of belonging and that's something artists always consider and have in mind when drawing. Selina and Bruce dwell and thrive in the shadows and the night just as much as Kal and Diana thrive in the sun and during the day. Selina and Bruce instills and are about cunning, fear and stealth against criminals and as for Kal and Diana it's about showing hope, trust and peace to the public and citiizens they want to protect and not feel threatened by looking at them. 


Kal did came up in terms about Diana killing Maxwell, he didn't at first reaction but later he did. If she hadn't killed Maxwell he would've keep using Superman as his toy hitman and more lives would be at risk just because Maxwell didn't want to surrender his control over Superman so Diana did as Superman did in MOS...break the neck in order to save others it's not the best option I agree but sometimes it's the only option and writers use it as the last resort since neither are going on a killing spree. 

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daChaosKitty In reply to Sithous [2014-02-11 19:46:24 +0000 UTC]

As far as color similarities go, Diana should then date Superman, Uncle Sam, Fighting American, Agent Liberty, Minute Man, Star-Spangled Kid, Marvel's Thor, American Son or Captain America,...Shoot, I think Tuppenny Fun's General Glory would be awesome for her, then! Not only a similar Colors scheme, but he has an eagle on his chest, too! And, bonus, his powers, like Diana's, are bestowed upon him.  If only he was a DC character. Since she's an Amazon, there's always the possibility of more Sapphic connections, such as Liberty Belle. I'm sure the LGBQT people would approve.

Of course, with regard to visuals, Diana's appearance was based on Olive Byrne, Marston's girlfriend, even her bracelets; though it was his wife who said he should make a female superhero. So, that bit is more coincidence, since Lois is based on Joanne Siegel (nee Carter).

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UNrealDEAN In reply to Sithous [2014-02-06 15:15:54 +0000 UTC]

 I didn't realize not hanging on to the past meant being single-minded.

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Thorion88 In reply to superjuca [2014-01-25 20:44:24 +0000 UTC]

Asking Batman fans to be mature is a heavy request there my friend.

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WOLFBLADE111 In reply to Thorion88 [2016-08-19 22:40:08 +0000 UTC]

LOL Agreed. XD

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Rosalind-WT In reply to Thorion88 [2014-07-13 04:53:57 +0000 UTC]

LOL

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SephirothHell666 In reply to superjuca [2014-01-24 05:32:00 +0000 UTC]

In all fairness, there is one good thing about the Wonder Woman/Superman ship:
it's not the Wonder Woman/Batman ship.

:-P

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superjuca In reply to SephirothHell666 [2014-01-25 00:57:39 +0000 UTC]

LOL - 2

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Sithous In reply to SephirothHell666 [2014-01-24 07:02:43 +0000 UTC]

lol that's THE best thing.  

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UNrealDEAN In reply to SephirothHell666 [2014-01-24 06:11:35 +0000 UTC]

LOL!

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bonez1112 [2014-01-24 01:13:08 +0000 UTC]

Love it!

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SpoonsThereAre [2014-01-24 00:59:36 +0000 UTC]

Just Awesome!

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