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Description A random collection of Undertale events I was in the mood to translate. Not too accurately, but I have no regrets.

I also think I've figured out most of the names now, as I've said I wanted them to have normal people names.
Like "Frisk". A name that's been in the top charts for at least 200 years. We're all calling our babies "Frisk". Some of our most famous celebrities are named "Frisk".
Friskey Spears. Frisk Eastwood. Frisk Sinatra. Toby Frisk.

And Chara.
Chara Sheen. Charamander. Charameleon. Charazard.
I know people have their own way of pronouncing the name, so these jokes won't make sense to everyone.

I know Frisk, as for Chara, can be any gender we want, that's the whole purpose of all the "they" and "them"-ing in the game, but can any of us really claim "Frisk" is a girl's name. Or a name at all. Wouldn't a more recognizable and gender neutral name be better to keep alive the illusion of personal gender assignment, like "Sam", "Alex", or whatever foreign name qualifies as gender neutral.


Anyway:

I didn't really want to change Frisk's name, but well, I turned the kid into a skeleton, so perhaps a font name would be more suitable. "Fixedsys". You know what kind of font that is.

Fixedsys is a skeleton child who managed to climb out of Mount Ebott through the hole in the ruins as an attempt to escape, as logically there shouldn't be a barrier if humans can just keep falling through.
As a monster, fighting the humans is hardly an option, but I'd imagine it using its skeleton charms and then wrecking its friends with its bone-related magic when they're not paying attention. If we were to translate the genocide run here.
Fixedsys is also one of those rare monsters who have "determination".
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Just like Frisk, didn't want to change Chara's name, but Chara's also a skeleton now. So, "Chiller"? Thankfully fitting.

Chiller was a kept secret and "adoptive child" of the president and his wife back in the old days. Nobody knew of its existence, except the family that adopted it, of course.
One day Chiller wanted to take the risk of killing itself to see if its human brother could absorb its soul, since that's something monsters wonder about underground, and assuming Chiller a monster boss, after succeeding, it wanted to take over its brother's body in order to become the most powerful monster/human alive and destroy the world with its new "human strength".
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Toriel is, while I first presented the names "Victoria" and "Torianna", now "Talia". It fits more than Victoria and is more common than Torianna. I'm not going with names like "Tory" and "Tori", as I believe that's what Asgore used to call her to be cute.

Talia is the resident of a secluded mountain village on Mount Ebott, and had been for many years. But her decision to live there isn't random; as she is one of the few humans who knows about the monsters being trapped inside and she devoted her life to protecting them. Mainly from her husband, who once announced to her his plan to erase the mountain and kill all the monsters. As long she lives there, she knows he won't go through with this plan.
The village is surrounded by a strong, oak fence. People cannot just leave or get in.
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Asgore. Al...Gore. "Al Gore the president", and I'm fine with this decision.

Al Gore has been the re-elected president of.. America for a long time, and in general is a people-pleaser. But after the corpse of his son was found near Mount Ebott, he blamed the dead Chiller and all monsters, and wanted to dynamite the entire mountain out of existence. This urged his wife Talia to leave him for good.
While he still bears his out-of-place resentment for monsters, Talia's presence at the mountain makes him hesitant to go through with his plan. And her lack of presence at home doubt himself.
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Asriel is a bit difficult, as it's hard to combine the names I've just given Toriel and Asgore and turn it into a real name. "Aliard"? Not what I'd consider a common name, but there's not much to work with.

Once upon a time Aliard found an exhausted Chiller near Mount Ebott, and clueless as he was, took the thing home with him. Nevertheless, his parents grew to like it as well and decided to care for it. While they weren't allowed to leave the house, because "walking skeleton friend" and cameras everywhere, the two brothers were keeping each other entertained, until Chiller decided to poison himself and suggested a complicated plan to Aliard, all with the supposed intention of wanting to become one with him and go back to the underground to free its fellow monsters with their combined powers.

Aliard got attacked by the monsters, as is customary when you're a human entering the underground, and while the absorbed Chiller wanted him to fight back, he just exited the mountain and eventually died on a patch of golden flowers, for the authorities to find.
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Papyrus is still granted his three birth-names, "Pat Piers Russel", but people should just call him "Pat" at all times, because seriously.

Pat is a low-ranking police officer who wishes to be accepted into the FBI. And he wears part of the costume his brother once made for him over his uniform, because he has no standards. Except. He considers that standards.
Pat is an incompetent officer, but at the same time strangely devoted. He thinks his job is important and that he should be treated with respect; if he starts writing you a ticket, nothing will convince him to stop, but he's never been able to detain or harm a (serious) criminal, as he thinks every bad person deserves to better themselves on the spot and avoid jail. Which is just great. For the criminal.
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Sans is still named "Stan". It was either that or "Sam", but he looks more like a Stan to me, and I believe the addition of a "t" in his name connects him to his brother, which is needed, because those two look way too different for their own good.

Stan is also with the police force, but never cares to wear his uniform or take his job seriously. While he's a lazy and stubby gentleman, he is insanely fast and agile; if we want to make sense out of Sans' transportation ability here. Concerning his jokes. They are. Human related? Stan might be delightfully racist. Or maybe it's just about bodyparts. I'm not yet sure about this, but the jokes should be bad either way.

Stan is one of the very few humans on Earth who has "determination" without having to be in contact with monsters for it to activate, which means he's been able to rewind and change time ever since he was born. But even from an early age he understood that changing fate was not always better; it's what all those science fiction movies taught him, so he never experimented with this gift. He has never killed a friend for fun, or rewinded time to give someone a better answer to their question. But he rewinded alot in order to give him more time to watch a movie or sleep, so in theory Stan lived longer than anyone else, which explains his lazy personality and "nothing matters" beliefs, a defeated view he tries to keep hidden from his clueless surroundings with a cute smile.

When Fixedsys shows up, he can no longer use his gift anymore, but he flawlessly recognizes that Fixedsys has it, when it used it, and for what purpose.
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Flowey is still named "Florence".

Florence is the unintentional clone of the late Aliard. He was meant to be an experiment seeing if human life could be created out of any living thing, in Florence's case, a flower. The experiment was extremely unbelievable, but succeeded because the flower used came from the same patch where Aliard had died, and as Aliard had absorbed Chiller's soul, the flower did not only have Aliard's DNA on it, but also monster magic; allowing this strange combination of a dead child and a flower to exist.
But a flower has no soul, and neither does Florence.

While neither Chiller or Aliard had "determination" in their past lives, or when fused together, Florence does. It's in every way similar to Stan's abilities, and he continuously used it to find personal happiness. Stan was immediately aware of Florence's gift and his quest, but decided not to stop him or let him know he knew. It proved "harmless" and equally "pointless", as Florence kept undoing everything in order to get different outcomes. But even though it appeared like the uncontrollable Florence was left to mess about like a hungry lion roaming the streets, Stan was always one step ahead of him to prevent harm to the people close to him, all without using his own gift and thus not making Florence suspicious of him. Just irritated by him.
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Undyne was also a bit difficult, but I decided to cheat the game once more by making "Dyne" her last name, and just call her "An". As long eveyone goes around calling her "miss An Dyne", it works.

An Dyne is the head of the FBI. Despite her being with the FBI, she didn't know of the existence of monsters until Fixedsys showed up, and she has been chasing it ever since. Not because she knows it's dangerous, but because the president told her so.

Together with Stan, she too has "determination", but her gift works differently. It's mostly manifested through her personality, making her undiscourageable till the end, and when she gets killed, it's like she gets a second chance. Because her gift is so subtle, An Dyne is not really aware she has a gift at all, and most would call her strong or lucky, if anything else.
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Alphys is "Alice", I don't know.

Alice, just like Alphys, is a horrible person. Let's be honest here. As I was thinking about how to translate her story, I came to the conclusion I don't like Alphys. What she did is not alright, and she shouldn't have been forgiven like that. This woman did some screwed up things, really badly, but where she officially went wrong is when she decided to cover it up. She imprisoned the suffering bodies of reanimated monsters under her laboratory and she created the villain of the story, and did not inform anyone after the thing escaped, for Pete's sake.

Alice has been tampering with dying people, trying to cheat death, turning them into suffering Frankenstein monsters. In the meantime, she wanted to make a human being from a flower. Blame those animes she's been watching.
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ghostfacetomace [2022-05-22 00:25:12 +0000 UTC]

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vapenation42 [2019-10-28 01:50:08 +0000 UTC]

pretty good

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fearflighter [2019-07-29 09:18:14 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, you've made a pretty good point with Alphys. Sure, while it's nice that she was able to move on and make herself a better person n' crap, I still think that she should at least suffer the some of the consequences of her actions and not get off scott-free. Maybe Undyne rejects her (but still at least forgives her) or the families of those amalgamate monsters remain upset with her for keeping them down there for so long. I mean, if Asgore can lose everything for what he did, I think Alphys should be taught a harsh lesson too.

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Wcat03blu [2018-01-12 21:18:49 +0000 UTC]

This is so awesome!!

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davidarmenko [2017-11-02 20:45:02 +0000 UTC]

i love it so MUCH!

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the1andione [2017-07-30 22:47:05 +0000 UTC]

More gory stuff! Please?

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Ramizder [2017-05-27 16:45:05 +0000 UTC]

Wait,does that mean that Muffet is in control of sweatshop?And that Monst...Human Kid is basically disabled?And Amalgamates are conjoined....elevents?
Shiet this AU is way darker than I thought.

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theromosdos [2017-02-12 12:11:28 +0000 UTC]

now I got the "high f**king five" rwference

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theromosdos In reply to theromosdos [2017-02-12 12:11:40 +0000 UTC]

reference

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Daa111 [2017-01-05 02:37:12 +0000 UTC]

Can You change it to Ann Dyne? It makes more sense to me

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VampireMeerkat In reply to Daa111 [2017-01-05 16:45:31 +0000 UTC]

An is a name, at least where I am from. Just pretend she is foreign.

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IMANIKAWAI [2016-12-03 04:51:25 +0000 UTC]

laughing is funΒ 

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King-of-the-Corn [2016-10-30 01:33:13 +0000 UTC]

LoL Mettaton is still a robot.

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Poot-the-Magikarp [2016-07-08 04:13:59 +0000 UTC]

The x-ray one is my favorite

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Tiger610 In reply to Poot-the-Magikarp [2016-08-17 06:13:18 +0000 UTC]

:33< mine too

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Mettaton-like-dorito [2016-07-08 00:52:12 +0000 UTC]

poor metta

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lolzwaitwhat [2016-06-01 23:47:00 +0000 UTC]

Why a yellow ham?Β 

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VampireMeerkat In reply to lolzwaitwhat [2016-06-02 08:49:02 +0000 UTC]

Why a yellow bone.

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lolzwaitwhat In reply to VampireMeerkat [2016-06-02 17:46:15 +0000 UTC]

... Paint?Β 

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jrtheartist In reply to lolzwaitwhat [2016-10-16 05:21:13 +0000 UTC]

I thought it was wrapping paper

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CharaViolet [2016-05-10 18:12:18 +0000 UTC]

The amalgamates must look even more messed up, because now they have actual insides

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TheMAM [2016-03-29 18:46:39 +0000 UTC]

I always thought the area around Mt. Ebott would know about monsters, but this is actually way more interesting now!
And great designs overall! Everything here's too cool.

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jakkat4 [2016-03-02 18:18:14 +0000 UTC]

good job ! :3

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KayO199X [2016-02-28 14:06:26 +0000 UTC]

"Long ago, two races ruled over earth: HUMANS and MONSTERS.Β  One day, war broke out between the two races.Β  After a long battle, the monsters were defeated.Β  They fled from the humans and sealed themselves underground with a magic spell.Β  Many years later...Β  Ebott Ruins 201X.Β  Legends say that those who rise out of the ruins never return."

Name the Risen Skeleton...
C-h-i-l-l-e-r

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ReyGaby [2016-02-18 07:24:20 +0000 UTC]

Great comic xD But what about the ghost likeΒ Napstablook? (good luck Β name him)
Is there a bigger version ?

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VampireMeerkat In reply to ReyGaby [2016-02-18 11:49:25 +0000 UTC]

It could be his artist name. If he's a Napster user, I'm fine with making his real name just "Brook".
There usually is, but there's a reason I show a drawing in a certain size.

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cacatar [2016-02-17 14:05:39 +0000 UTC]

Why everybody have a gap in their teeth? TheΒ dental insurance in Upperland must be awfull.Β 

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VampireMeerkat In reply to cacatar [2016-02-17 16:00:31 +0000 UTC]

I had to translate the fangs somehow, without using fangs.

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Nikepz [2016-02-17 13:15:54 +0000 UTC]

So is uppertale Mettaton just an AI. Or did Alice uploaded the conciousness of NapstablookΒ΄s cousin into a robot like in that Trascendence film. If Napstablook exists in this version that is.

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VampireMeerkat In reply to Nikepz [2016-02-17 14:02:11 +0000 UTC]

I guess she transplanted his brain into this robot body.

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vegatifa [2016-02-17 03:00:17 +0000 UTC]

This is adorable ^-^
I had considered Sans with long, shaggy hair as a human lol. So lazy.
that and his scruff still remind me of Arin Hanson ahaha

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CutieWinterSnow [2016-02-17 01:06:21 +0000 UTC]

OH MY GOSH!!! Yes MORE UPPERTALE!!!!

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ProjectAwesomes [2016-02-16 21:30:11 +0000 UTC]

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VampireMeerkat In reply to ProjectAwesomes [2016-02-16 21:34:51 +0000 UTC]

This must be a meme I'm missing out on.

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Rebelshoe [2016-02-16 17:45:44 +0000 UTC]

Great moves meek keep up the good work so proud of you

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VampireMeerkat In reply to Rebelshoe [2016-02-16 18:15:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, senpai.

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The-Legionary1 [2016-02-16 14:27:24 +0000 UTC]

Is An Dyne gonna be in some big mech or riot suit in this?

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VampireMeerkat In reply to The-Legionary1 [2016-02-16 14:58:11 +0000 UTC]

I don't think the FBI has riot suits, do they? I think they do have helmets, bulletproof armor and such, depending on the case, so I'd say she's wearing that while she's pursuing Fixedsys.

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The-Legionary1 In reply to VampireMeerkat [2016-02-16 15:02:08 +0000 UTC]

Okay, cool!

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Benthehyena [2016-02-16 13:18:18 +0000 UTC]

That's so funny and perfect.

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IVefarious [2016-02-16 10:11:20 +0000 UTC]

I agree that Alphys is basically a coward and a fuck-up. On the one hand, she's an inexperienced young woman with some massive shoes to fill. So she gets some slack for that. Gastor was a genius and a visionary who created the monsters entire standard of living from scratch. If he had lived, things would have been very different.

Creating Flowey was a forgivable mistake. After all it was just a flower and research on souls was her job. Experiments had to be done. it's not her fault that things worked out the way they did. Tragic though it was.

The abominations created by injecting determination into dead monsters is... mad science. No denying it. Did she have to inject it into so many? What's really galling is that she abandoned the research after that. She simply kept those tortured creatures in the basement, cut off communication with the general public, and hid in her lab watching cartoons. That's fuckin' messed up. She could either have kept going, horrible though it was, and tried to produce something of value from that travesty... or she could have come clean to everyone. Anything would have been better than covering it up and wallowing in self pity.

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VampireMeerkat In reply to IVefarious [2016-02-16 12:48:03 +0000 UTC]

Is she young? I imagined her to be a 30-40 year old woman.

Your last paragraph is what bothers me about Alphys. Not so much that she experimented with a mere flower or the dying bodies of monsters she got full permission to work with from their relatives, but that when the results turned unpleasant, she decided to keep her mouth shut and let everyone suffer under her silence. The reanimated, molten-together, hurting corpses being held prisoner in a dark laboratory, that Flowey became an, unexpected, fact, but she still let this soulless creature roam the underground without issuing a single warning to anyone, I cannot relate to such a character and her decisions. And she is supposed to be one of the good guys.

I understand her thought process and we definitely need flawed characters in fiction; she is not a terribly written character on paper, but I do not respect her type of personality. It's like the players should either forgive or despise Alphys. Like, do you forgive her because she is a funny weeabo and you empathise with a high school loser, or don't, because she messed up royally?

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IVefarious In reply to VampireMeerkat [2016-02-17 10:04:51 +0000 UTC]

Hm. Fair point. Alphys could be any age really. Gerson and Asgore are at least 1000 years old, since both were present during the human war. I guess I assumed she was a teenager because she seems so immature. Alphys lives on her own (as does Undyne), so that would imply they are adults... but if a young Undyne followed Gerson around back when he was the Hammer of Justice, that means even though Undyne is a second generation monster (one who has lived all their lives underground) she could easily be a few hundred years old herself. Which means that Alphys could be too.

Alphys made terrible mistakes. In the genocide run, Undyne grins bravely as she dies and is supremely confident that Alphys will warn Asgore of Chara's coming. She believes the king will use the souls to become powerful and defeat the player. Yet, upon reaching him, Asgore clearly has not heard a word from Alphys. He doesn't even know what's been happening in his kingdom. Did Alphys drop the ball again? Even in the genocide run? Granted, she seems to have done a good job evacuating the other monsters, but you'd think contacting the king about a rampaging human would be pretty important information to relay.Β 

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newflutterpie In reply to IVefarious [2016-03-26 01:10:55 +0000 UTC]

I thought that maybe Asgore was told, but saved absorbing the souls for when the human arrived. As hinted throughout the geno (And at the New Home in Neutral) run, monsters won't recognize you. Which is why Asgore asks what kind of monster are you.

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IVefarious In reply to newflutterpie [2016-03-29 09:20:59 +0000 UTC]

Asgore knows who Frisk is during Neutral/Pacifist runs. Presumably because he is informed you are coming. He recognizes Frisk immediately as 'The Human' and is deeply troubled by your impending conflict. Who told him Frisk was coming? Alphys, I guess. In Genocide, Asgore is completely clueless as to who you are. Doesn't even know you're a human. No one told him anything in Genocide.

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newflutterpie In reply to IVefarious [2016-07-19 22:34:38 +0000 UTC]

Or maybe because you were easily recognizable. Alphys couldn't have done it, she wanted to be a hero to you. In fact, it could've been one of the guards. Probably Undyne in the routes where you don't befriend her. It could be lesser or greater dog in the routes where you do befriend her/where you betray her, as they wouldn't know any better. In genocide, Asgore is told by Flowey you're coming. However, Sans says "so keep pretending to be one" in response to Papyrus never having seen a human before. And since the minor monsters and NPC's don't seem to know about you being human, ever (not including Temmie), it can be seen as you're too far in for Asgore to know you're human. It could also be that Flowey just couldn't communicate properly due to fear.

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VampireMeerkat In reply to IVefarious [2016-02-17 11:45:18 +0000 UTC]

Maybe Gerson was still offically The Hammer of Justice a couple of years back, not necesarily hundreds of years. I don't remember, does the game say how long back he was a warrior?

It's clear she cannot plan for the future and is the type of person who can only think of the "now":
- "Now I fucked up, so now I need to stay quiet."
- "Now a dangerous human is killing everyone in this area, so now I need to save everyone in this area."

And that's pretty much it, her thoughts are these one sentences, while she should've taken that big brain of hers and concluded that:
- "Now I fucked up, people will ask questions eventually and I'll be in trouble if I keep silent, so I need to accept my mistakes and the help of others to possibly fix what has been done."
- "Now a dangerous human is killing everyone in this area, so I need to warn the king and have him destroy this human, before it slowly kills the entire underground, as we monsters are stuck here and thus cannot actually "evacuate" or "flee" from it."

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IVefarious In reply to VampireMeerkat [2016-02-17 14:17:00 +0000 UTC]

It's possible it wasn't too long ago in the games timeline. Personally I believe that Gerson is responsible for the deaths of the other 6 humans. It would make sense. What other 'bad guys' are there for a hero to fight in the underground? Undyne is clearly seeing a human for the first time during the events of the game. So it wasn't her. Could have been Asgore I suppose. Or both of them. He's old now, but Gerson must have been extremely formidable in his day if he fought in the war and survived against armed adult humans actively trying to kill him.
His dialogue in the pacifist and genocide runs offer conflicting information. To pacifists, he laughs and brags that he was once a hero. To genociders, he admits that he is no hero at all. He also had no hand in training Undyne, despite the fact that he was her role model and Asgore's right hand man. My theory is that Gerson didn't actively groom her to be his successor as the captain of the royal guard because he didn't want Undyne to be like him. A killer.
Anyway, while it's not specifically stated how much time has passed, Gerson served Asgore at least up until Toriel went into self exile. Sometime after that he retired. I know this because he has dialogue about how he and Asgore came to an agreement that escaping the underground was a terrible idea, but Asgore changed his mind, upsetting Gerson. Nothing is concrete, but I try to make the best guesses I can based on available information.

Alphys seems like she has a lot of brains but not a lot of common sense. It really grinds my gears that Undyne believed in Alphys with all her heart, but Alphys couldn't even make a damn phone call to reward that faith. You're probably right that Alphys lives in the moment and focuses all of her attention on immediate concerns, even if much greater problems are pressing.Β 

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VampireMeerkat In reply to IVefarious [2016-02-18 12:10:37 +0000 UTC]

When listening to Toriel's warning at the beginning, I imagine Asgore having killed all those children. If every one of them even were children. I'm still not sure about this; the coffins in the castle are all the same size, but I wouldn't assign some of the clothes lying around the underground to belong to a child. Like the apron and the frying pan. It's also quite a coincidence that every human that fell down was small child. Not one adult fell inside that mountain. It's probably an Earthbound thing with all the heroes being children.
Maybe Gerson meant he isn't a hero now, since he's old. Strange wording, still. Maybe he's demented and was never a warrior at all. Lewl.
Undyne makes it clear that only Asgore trained her, and it's obvious that she doesn't mind killing as long it's a human, so I don't think Gerson would be worried about that.

Exactly. It's not something she does on purpose, but it's a shame it keeps happening. But, on the other hand, we know it wouldn't have mattered anyway, since we can reset till we win. Following that, I wanted to ask why Sans didn't warn the king, but he knows it's all pointless. But I still have to wonder why instead of making the decision to tire us out himself, he didn't let Asgore do it. That guy has more HP and ATK than him, especially if he were to absorb the souls, Sans didn't have to sacrifice himself.

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IVefarious In reply to VampireMeerkat [2016-02-18 15:31:49 +0000 UTC]

The fan theory that all 6 humans were children comes from the belief that if Frisk can wear their stuff then it must be child-sized clothing, but there's no reason Frisk couldn't be putting on something that doesn't fit properly. The ballet gear is covered in (monster) dust so apparently only the ballet human was a monster killer to any great degree. Which is kind of interesting.
Toriel laments "not even being able to save a child." Which could imply that some adults passed through, since she might have let a grown man/woman through with less of a burden on her conscience.

Not all heroes in the Earthbound (Mother) series are children. Granted, Frisk/Chara are definitely based off Ness and his crew.

Gerson being crazy is a notion I've never heard before. It's possible! Although Undyne's hero worship towards his exploits seems genuine... and Gerson is clearly very knowledgeable about monster lore and even how to exploit the rules of the game world. Much like Sans does. Hard to say. Undyne and the other Royal Guards seem really inexperienced. Like they've never seen any action at all.

I have another theory. Why did the humans seal the monsters away? Why bother? They didn't have to. By all accounts, it would have been simple for the humans to wipe the monster race out entirely and eliminate any perceived threat forever. I think the still frame scene in the games intro that shows Asgore facing off with the human leader is more than just symbolic of the struggle. I think Asgore, being the passive and kind king that he is, surrendered. I think he begged the humans for mercy. It's the only reason I can think of why they would sheath their weapons and not deliver the killing blow to an easily defeated enemy. It would also explain why Chara was welcomed with open arms and adopted into the royal family. Asgore saw Chara as a potential bridge between the races. It's Asgore's voice speaking to the player when they hit the Game Over screen or they sleep in the bed at Toriel's House. He keeps telling us "You are the future of humans and monsters." That's actually Chara's memories of Asgore surfacing in the mind of Frisk. Asgore believed his adopted human child would grow up to be proof that monsters and humans could live together in peace.
...Glad that worked out SO well, eh?

There is a commonly held belief that Sans is actually a human wearing a costume. Maybe he couldn't absorb the souls because he was incapable. Humans can't absorb the souls of other humans. Alternatively Sans might have felt there was no point, just like you said. Maybe he felt a powerful foe would only encourage the player. 'Cause Sans isn't powerful. He merely fights smart and dirty.

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