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Nail a socialist to a cross and 2000 years later you have this.Confused?
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"a socialist"
Compare Jesus to today's crybabies and Santa-believers and you may make Jesus have a holy heart-attack
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Pageantry is just something we ceased to understand because of individualism. Not saying individualism is bad, it just made us cease to understand pageantry.
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I'm Catholic and I find this very funny and true in some cases (still think Pope John Paul II was the best pope ever!!!!!)
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Greedy men are admirable for being able to outsmart everyone and everything in order to get EVERYTHING under control, even a "humble" movement. But those who allow themselves to be fooled are no better.
wait.. did I say admirable? I meant shit
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um.. sorry then? I'm kinda hyper right now, when the depression kicks in i'll stop rummaging through your astonishing gallery and shut up.
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Nah, keep going.
Witty is a compliment.
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oooh, catholic church is made of contradictions.
talking about humbleness, but supporting capitalism wich means inequality; professing chastity, but defending pedophile priests; you shall not murder, but make the holy war; blah blah.
have you ever thought about the meaning of the cross? a professor in my high school said once that it's like if we created a new religion and hanged little electric chairs in our necks xD
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Or needles for the lethal injection.
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Your citicism of the Pope is absolutely justified, but Christ was not a socialist. The Pope is a fascist, though, and that's not to0 far removed from a socialist. I've heard it said that fascism is socialism on crack. I find that a g0od description.
Fascism comes from Rome and so does the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon, the power behind the Beast.
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Wow! What an inventive array of insults to the most holy of religions (/end of sarcasm).
No, seriously, JC was a socialist. He told me.
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Assuming that's true, then what's the devil's political slant?
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este cartoon fez me lembrar uma frase do Padre António Vieira no sermão de Santo António aos peixes: "...e de uma hipócrisia tão santa..." tinha 13 anos mas nunca mais me esqueci desta frase em vÑrias circunstancias e sempre em relação à igreja católica (que é a isso que ele se refere na frase que citei)...concordo plenamente com a tua opinião...
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Ah those Cathaholics, they just can't get enough Cathahol....
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I like socialism. Isn't that like when you talk to people at a party?
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hahaha
its important to be a good socialist, specially if the party is at yours.
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Mas isto foi o que eu sempre disse! 
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Honestly, I've always felt a bit puzzled by the deep, intense hatred some people have for the Pope and/or the Vatican. While neither the individual nor the institution are above reproach, I think we should keep in mind that nobody's forced to be a Catholic. I'm not, and I don't really care whether the Pope is a hypocrite or not.
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Concerning this topic this you should see this article . [link]
I'm sure you can get the gist of it as an example of the influence of the catholic church in civil affairs.
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See, that's something that I've always found fascinating. I certainly understand - and sympathize with - your concern that the Catholic church is weighing too heavily in social and political debates and, in a way, abusing its position as the official moral compass of a predominantly Catholic society. That's never a good thing in a secular democracy.
That being said, I think we "enlightened" Europeans, especially in the last couple of decades, have lived under the illusion that politics were mostly a rational game, a way to find a good compromise between social and economic needs. I think it's more than that, I think there is a moral side to politics, one that we can't simply ignore, and that Americans, for all their excesses, seem to handle much more naturally than Europeans. Of course, in order to have a good and healthy debate about moral issues, it helps if everyone plays by the rules, including the Catholic church.
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Rational and moral are not exclusive at all.
Whatever politics we follow they represent our moral code and, hopefully, that code is based on reason rather than emotions (that can be so easily manipulated).
If anything, the difference between "excess" America and Europe is how emotional and how rational their moral attitudes are.
Now, having the Catholic Church advising people not to vote in a party that wants to grant rights to a minority (the homosexual community) is completely out of order.
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Oh yes, I agree completely.
I just think that pretending that we're perfectly rational animals is delusional and that we should take morals into account when we're talking about politics. I didn't want to imply that said discussion should be irrational.
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Its more of a strong discomfort rather than a hatred. You might understand it if you would've grown up in a country where the Catholic Church still is highly influential, such as Portugal, Spain or Italy.
Indeed nobody is forced to be a Catholic and none of this discomfort is towards the religion itself, only the institution.
However, the Catholic way of life, thoughts and "morality" is strongly invasive in this coutry. The Church presents itself as the one and only moral beacon and pressures political groups and media to spread its thoughts. Not mather how hypocrite they are.
Its not uncommon in a pre-electoral season in Portugal that the local churches manipulate people into not voting in certain parties. Sometimes their political views are spread in national radio stations.
The media in general pays much attention to all Vatican measures so its not rare to see what the Pope thinks of this and that - every day.
This causes some discomfort to the atheist or even moderate christian people that believe that religion should not impose lifestyle on a whole country but only to people who wish to follow them.
I would always support any law that reduces or abolishes any legal priviliges of this institution in Portugal. There are still a few.
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I understand. Obviously, I don't live in a Catholic country and I think I underestimated the influence the Church can have on the public debates in those countries.
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Socialists..... didn't a socialist, Eugene Debs, give us the Death Tax? Mussolini was a socialist.... he loved to Silence people, especially Christians.... the Nazis were socialists. They thought Jesus was a weakness that would destroy the Master Race if they allowed His Church to continue to exist... HG Wells was a socialist. He thought it might be a good idea if White people were the Only people... and so on, and so forth.
No.... I really don't think Jesus was a Socialist.
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You mentioned a few NATIONAL socialists there. Quite a big ideological difference.
I just picture Jesus as a socialist because if today someone would come to preach understanding, love towards neighbours and non-violence would be considered a left-wing tree-hugging freak.
I don't see Jesus as a religious figure but as a political one. I'm sure he would be terribly disapointed with what has been done by institutions such as the catholic church.
A socialist can accept and think about Jesus's moral teachings whilst rejecting all the religous bollocks.
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'A socialist can accept and think about Jesus's moral teachings whilst rejecting all the religous bollocks.'
And so can anyone else of any 'ism.' I am slightly Right of center but I do NOT see him as a tree-hugger type. He Made the tree; tree-huggers tend to worship them.
Apparently we just disagree on His status.
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I guess I would say "his status" instead of "His status". No worshiping involved.
Other than that, great respect.
cheers
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they dont really know what they are.
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