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Wabooshka In reply to Sandwich91 [2011-05-16 09:22:15 +0000 UTC]

haha wow thanks, that is the best advice i have had in a few years
okay, the pencils i normally use is faber castel, i find they blend better then anything else, i have been drawing seriously since 2008 but i haven't been drawing much as of recently, and no, i don't use photos as a reference nor have i really thiught about using them. but now that you mention it, that sounds like a good idea.

markers do look really good, i don't deny that, but they are just so damn hard to use and get used to...
i only just got used to using a fine liner on my work.
but yeah, sometimes the pencil just looks awful when you scan the picture onto the computer.

so paper has something to do with it as well??? wow i never knew that. i may actually ask about that next time. thanks a lot, that really does help

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Sandwich91 In reply to Wabooshka [2011-05-16 09:30:45 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome, well i think you should keep going with the markers, they might be a little hard to get used to but you'll get there eventually and when you do i think you'll be much happier with it. As for the paper it probably wont make much of a difference with pencils, but when it comes to markers it is absolutely crucial. Like with markers there is special paper that limits the amount of bleeding and is specially made for markers, so if you're having problems with them try using paper made for markers and give that a whirl.

I remember when i was using fineliner for my work, they work alright for outlining but i find that the markers do a better job depending on what you're doing, like using a marker for a marker drawing would be best, but it'd be fine for pencil. Also this might sound silly, make sure you have clean hands when you draw, all the little things can have a huge difference, like whenever i used pencils i'd eventually smudge because my hand would collect the colours as i coloured.

The photos work amazingly well when it comes to proportions, i pretty much bug my house mate now anytime i need a photo reference and get her to take a photo of me so i can use it. But yeah, the best example of it helping me is when i needed to draw one of my characters suverve and i went on image google and looked up buff men in budgie smugglers as a reference, seriously i would never have been able to pull it off properly without a photo as a reference. The idea i guess is to use the reference a few times till you learn the proportions naturally and go from there, so it should act as a crutch in the meantime. hope all that helps.

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Wabooshka In reply to Sandwich91 [2011-05-16 09:46:37 +0000 UTC]

i will ask about that when i get new supplies and all, and i am sure i will love it once i get used to it
outlining is a finliners job a lot of the time but i sometimes use it for eyes but yeah it really does depend on what you are doing and what effect you want on your drawings i think.

haha yeah my friend always uses us as a reference so i guess it is pretty much the same, i will try that also. o yeah it definitly helps

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Sandwich91 In reply to Wabooshka [2011-05-17 04:47:11 +0000 UTC]

yeah, good luck with it all, also another question, just wondering if you're in highschool or something. Because if you are then what you could do is go to an art school later on for college or university (you live in australia as well so this should work) and then you should be getting over a grand when you first start as a scholarship from centrelink for doing university, depending on your circumstances you can make a loan where the government pays for your course with the expectation that you pay back for the course once you're able. So combining the hex and the scholarships (there are a few out there) you just might be able to afford some expensive markers with the help of the scholarships. Just food for thought.

yeah, it is pretty much the same i think, all that matters is that you have something to refer to, photos are great because they obviously offer something realistic to follow, that being said when you draw you don't have to keep things realistic, you can make them as stylized as you want, but it's important to get proportions right.

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Wabooshka In reply to Sandwich91 [2011-05-19 08:41:56 +0000 UTC]

yeah, i am currently in high school, year 11 in fact. the only art subject i am doing though is photography.
you see, drawing is mainly just a hobby if mine thanks to inspirations from Teacosi.
but yeah that is a good idea if i really get into drawing again, because i guess in a way you have gotten me back into it with this new way of doing things.

i was talking to Electric-Dynamite the other day about markers, and he is thinking about trying it also, so that was pretty cool.

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Sandwich91 In reply to Wabooshka [2011-05-19 09:42:17 +0000 UTC]

wow so i guess in a sense i have inspired you? yeah well there are an infinite ways to go about it, like at my university each student has their own individual way of going about producing art work, some of them like playing with ink and others like to use found objects to make drawings, there is no right and wrong way to do things when it comes to drawing in the end.

Ah okay so now i've converted all of you to the way of the marker? mwuhahaha

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Wabooshka In reply to Sandwich91 [2011-05-20 08:12:54 +0000 UTC]

yeah, you certainly have, not only by what you have said, but your drawings as well.
well everyone does don't they? i mean, it would be boring if you all draw the same thing, you would learn nothing from looking at others work and take some kind of inspiration from it. and that is true, there is no right or wrong, the way i see it, there is no such thing as a bad artist we all have our own style. it's like music.

haha not all the way, but partly

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Sandwich91 In reply to Wabooshka [2011-05-25 10:59:35 +0000 UTC]

yeah well i don't see the harm in getting ideas from other people, but that's not what you should solely do you know? Like with me i kind of like looking at some peoples work and getting ideas of my own, my mind is unique so i see works differently to other people (which is true for everyone really) so even if i were to get my ideas from other people they would be unique from everyone elses ideas, or at least you'd hope so

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Wabooshka In reply to Sandwich91 [2011-05-27 08:48:07 +0000 UTC]

oh no not at all, as long as you don't fully copy someone.
but yeah of course,i do the sa,e and sometimes put a similar detail or characteristic in my drawings as i saw in someone else's work.

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Sandwich91 In reply to Wabooshka [2011-06-10 14:36:33 +0000 UTC]

yeah i guess so, what i really need to do is get past the whole cookie cutter phase in my drawings, all my characters due to my inability have the same kind of body, i need to try and get some variety in that, it's all and good whilst i'm drawing cartoon versions of myself xD but costume and hair alone wont be enough to set them apart fully.

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