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Supah-Panda In reply to ??? [2012-08-21 02:27:58 +0000 UTC]
"...I'm just trying to get a better understanding of this religion."
Believe you me I've been trying for years, nothing will help you understand it because none of it makes any sense from a rational standpoint. Unless you're indoctrinated or desperate for something to believe in there's no way to understand it. That aside there are so many sects and interpretations of Christianity that trying to wrap your head around it might make your head explode. Oh, and this woman will suck any apologists dick just to avoid admitting how bigoted, sexist and downright closed-minded her beliefs are. She has no interest in confronting the flaws in her logic or the heinousness of her own religion. She just wants to pretend sexism isn't sexist if the bible says so.
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AkoyaBones In reply to ??? [2012-08-18 09:41:53 +0000 UTC]
women*
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Plussizeangel [2012-08-17 16:35:13 +0000 UTC]
If someone had wanted me to marry a rapist because "getting married was something that every woman craved" and "it is God´s will", I would have escaped. Horrible law, horrible times.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Plussizeangel [2012-08-17 16:37:53 +0000 UTC]
You do know it's wasn't a commandment or requirement of law, right? .__.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Plussizeangel [2012-08-17 18:10:38 +0000 UTC]
And did you know that bible scholars now have reason to believe that the original context of it wasn't even talking about rape, but a woman who willingly had sex with a man?
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Plussizeangel In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-08-17 19:10:48 +0000 UTC]
No, but believe me I really really that is true! I am not being sarcastic.
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ShopKey [2012-08-11 15:05:59 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much for making this stamp!
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DraculaMustDie [2012-07-17 17:25:35 +0000 UTC]
It is wonderful (well skim read) to read a well thought and well reasoned defense of the Bible on women.
I once read that "feminism is the radical notion the women are people" (Cheris Kramarae/ Paula Treichier), and the Bible fully supports this notion.
Men were made from the dust of the ground, and women were made of finer things.
"The woman was made of a rib out of the side of Adam; not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected, and near his heart to be beloved.” Matthew Henry.
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sampea [2012-06-23 04:04:16 +0000 UTC]
'Womens should not decide if a prophecy is from God.' This is something I still don,t quite understand. Why would it be desobeing God just because one is a girl. Girls aren't stupid, you know.
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Deus-Lux [2012-06-20 19:07:24 +0000 UTC]
I hate this "God hates women" arguement stupid, men wrote the bible, so therefore it suits them to make women seem weaker. If God did think women were weak, why do they give birth?! Possibly the most painful think in this world physically. And why does everything start off female?
If you ask me, God favours women over men.
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ThatWayne In reply to Deus-Lux [2012-07-07 00:03:57 +0000 UTC]
Oh I love you <3 I was kind of thinking the same thing.
Women carry such a harsh burden, but that does not make them weak.
It makes them quite strong to be chosen to carry such a thing c:
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WolfOfRebellion [2012-06-20 00:00:40 +0000 UTC]
If Lord really treates girls like "low race", then there would not be Holy Mother nor female Saints.
Also, it sounds like subliminal strike against Christians when "taking virginity before marriage" suddenly transform into "rape" by some noob rabid atheist translator.
My Bible is bloody old and it's totally different than new one, which mistranslated a lot of stuff and transformed Bible into "evul buk".
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Master-of-the-Boot [2012-06-19 18:08:42 +0000 UTC]
God advocates the killing of women multiple times in the bible and raping them too
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2012-06-19 18:29:19 +0000 UTC]
Give me the verses where God says all that exactly word for word?
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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-06-19 18:36:39 +0000 UTC]
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
God is worse than Hitler
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2012-06-19 18:53:13 +0000 UTC]
You should know that the context of that passage is a WARNING AGAINST IDOLATRY.
WOW, I think you added alot of false information and words into that, because here is what it actually says in the NLT Holy Bible:
"that scoundrels among you are leading their fellow citizens astray by saying, ‘Let us go worship other gods’ - gods you have not known before. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find that the report is true and such a detestable act has been committed among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the open square and burn it. Burn the entire town as a burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the Lord will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a large nation, just as he swore to your ancestors.
The Lord your God will be merciful only if you listen to his voice and keep all his commands that I am giving you today, doing what pleases him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
- He gave them all those who have sinned a chance to repent, so they wouldn't have to be punished so harshly. He even told his followers to carefully examine what is happening before taking action. The people had a chance, and studies show that God gave them plenty of just time and reason for it.
- The whole reason for the acts was to remind those who the real God is, the living God and not a piece of wood or copper.
- Children will be saved, since they have no ability to make the rational choice of whether or not to accept God
- He never once said that they had to rape the women
- This passage has no special meaning towards women, so I have no clue what you are doing with a passage like that in the woman's case.
Yeah, so far, you have shown me no evidence for that.
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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-06-19 18:56:45 +0000 UTC]
These are exact bible quotes. What else do you want?
God is a murdering anti-life cunt sore. The fact that it warns against idolatry means that God is so jealous and insecure that he's willing to murder a while town because one man or woman is a heathen. God is advocating the holocaust because one man worships an idol.
Al Capone was the same way, "Pay me or die" And I'm sure that Al Capone rewarded those who served him and jumped when he snapped his fingers.
Alright, God orders you to reserach carefully to find out if someone is a heathen, then brutally murder them and all their family.
To be honest, God seems like a brutal guy, and pray tell, why would God want to slaughter all the women, men and children except virgin girls of breeding age?
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2012-06-19 19:23:59 +0000 UTC]
Well, you got it from somewhere else, because I'm looking at it right now, and it doesn't say all that in my Bible. With that said, you are not going to convince me or anyone else who has read the Bible that that wall of text is an actual NLT bible verse.
Actually, it's not that at all. It's that He doesn't take crap from ANYONE and he doesn't play favorites. It's like running a kingdom, which is what the context is talking about: If you are in God's domain and you disobey His commands, then you have to be disciplined for it unless you repent and turn away from it. What's so wrong about that? And besides, God doesn't need money or fame or wealth, He just wants respect because He, of all things, DOES deserve that. You can find that in many parts of the Bible, especially with Jesus.
Well, of course, it's just like the justice system today with judges and lawyers. The only difference is that shedding blood was considered a more disciplinary act of judgement, since Jesus had not come to die in place for their sins yet.
Where does it say all that again? And no false verses, please.
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Master-of-the-Boot In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-06-20 17:51:35 +0000 UTC]
I just gave you a bunch of bible quotes and all you can say is that they're not really part of the bible? I really have won this argument.
God theoretically omnipotent, who would give him crap if he existed? The Jewish people are explicitly listed as the chosen people, and God regularly commands them to commit genocide and orders those who cut their hair to be punished by death.
(Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to Master-of-the-Boot [2012-06-21 02:17:13 +0000 UTC]
First of all, no, you did not give me "a bunch of bible quotes", you gave me only one NLT bible quote. An inaccurate and altered so-called "bible verse", at that, not even in the NLT bible. Therefore it is not valid of the argument since it is clearly biased to your points.
On the contrary, the fact that you bothered to make a reply implies that you haven't won anything.
Apparently people will and do care, it's very clear that some people have intense views on it: some don't like the idea of someone to be all-knowing of their actions and thoughts and intentions("violation of privacy" they say), and other's see it as proof of divinity attributes, something that is not human nor coming from nature.
Look at you jump from one topic to another, lol. How about we stick to the subject at hand, huh? You said something about rape, right?
That's alot better, an actual bible verse
This is ancient standard Jewish practice that was done among the nation during warfare against non-Canaanite nations -- if a man wishes to become married to a prisoner woman of another nation, do so if she wishes not for her freedom (ability to say no and she wishes to not be in threat of being inside inproper settings). Notice that he didn't ORDER them to have sex with the women when they were not married to them or against their will. Also it's not a requirement nor and order for them to do this at all. However, a woman would most likely be living under conditions more favorable if they DID choose to marry her. Also, if they find that they do not wish to be married any longer, or if she is in fact mistreated or enslaved, the woman is free to leave and the husband must not treat her like she is still his.
This does not indicate in anyway the approval or practice of a woman being mistreated into having sex against her will.
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Realm-Of-The-Shadows [2012-06-03 05:33:58 +0000 UTC]
truly well done!
I don't see many people nowadays making for such an excellent case such as this!
You do God and the bible justice, keep up the good work, I mean it!
God bless!
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zarhx [2012-06-01 02:16:49 +0000 UTC]
Flagged as Spam
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to zarhx [2012-06-01 02:21:06 +0000 UTC]
LOL, see it before, and no. c:
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zarhx In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-06-01 02:22:24 +0000 UTC]
Flagged as Spam
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to zarhx [2012-06-01 02:26:22 +0000 UTC]
Like I've said, I've seen it before, already looked through it like almost a year ago.
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zarhx In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-06-01 02:28:35 +0000 UTC]
Flagged as Spam
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to zarhx [2012-06-01 02:31:42 +0000 UTC]
Oh, you weren't very clear, sorry.
For one, they got alot of things wrong, but I won't go into detail now, I'm rather busy atm.
And second, it's gonna take more than just some people thinking they know all about rationality to convince me out of my faith. Again, I'm kindof busy, so I won't be replying to any more comments tonight
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Pencilartguy In reply to XxDiaLinnxX [2012-06-01 02:40:51 +0000 UTC]
She commented 4 days ago and now she's coming back even though you didn't reply to her. That sounds a little obsessive of her, eh?
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LacedInInsanity [2012-05-28 02:23:21 +0000 UTC]
You made some awesome points. Thank you :]
But what about these sayings that "if you're a woman, you go to Hell"?
Is there anything in the Bible that gave anyone such an idea?
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LacedInInsanity In reply to zarhx [2012-06-01 02:48:55 +0000 UTC]
The only things I read on that horrid website were biased and had very little to do with the bible's true meaning.
I.e, it says that God tells us to kill whoever curses upon their mother or father, therefore we should kill half of the Earth's population?
No.
Because you know what else the Bible says?
He who is without sin throw the first stone.
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zarhx In reply to LacedInInsanity [2012-06-01 02:56:26 +0000 UTC]
Exactly; the bible is self-contradicting. Every time you turn the page and learn a new lesson it makes you think.. You were just taught the opposite in the last chapter, so what do you do? "An eye for an eye" or "turn the other cheek?" Should we stone to deaths adulterers? Should women who were raped be the property of the rapist? Should a woman who marries after losing her virginity be stoned to death?
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LacedInInsanity In reply to zarhx [2012-06-01 03:12:59 +0000 UTC]
It might be, but that's what makes it so mysterious and wonderful.
In a way, isn't kind of giving you freedom to choose?
I'm assuming you're of a different religion, or just an atheist and I respect your opinion, although I may not agree with them.
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zarhx In reply to LacedInInsanity [2012-06-01 05:37:37 +0000 UTC]
I respect yours as well, but it's healthy to question your beliefs now and again. If God were real, I wouldn't want him being "mysterious," I'd want him taking care of me. Why else would I worship him if he didn't care for me somehow? If he's willing to let me go to hell so he can be "mysterious," he's an evil God.
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LacedInInsanity In reply to zarhx [2012-06-01 05:52:51 +0000 UTC]
It never mentioned that he didn't care, just that he was very vague.
I agree with you about the Hell part though, however, I don't believe that's how God is at all.
God has a plan for every one of us.
How we carry out that plan is up to us.
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zarhx In reply to LacedInInsanity [2012-06-02 03:34:48 +0000 UTC]
Uh..what? He has a plan for us, but we choose whether we follow it? So what's stronger, his plan or our free will? The two really can't coexist. It's either planned out or it's not.
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XxDiaLinnxX In reply to LacedInInsanity [2012-05-28 04:29:30 +0000 UTC]
Thanks <3
oh HELL no, as far as I know, there is nothing in the Bible that says or even remotely supports the idea that you will go to hell simply because you are a certain gender.
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zarhx [2012-05-27 04:21:31 +0000 UTC]
Most women experience an increased sex drive near and during the time of their menstrual cycle, just so you know. And yes, the bible does imply that women are property. During that time, yes, they were. There's no way around that.
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Ask-War In reply to zarhx [2012-05-31 11:31:36 +0000 UTC]
Indeed.
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Animeartist124 [2012-05-16 05:11:49 +0000 UTC]
This stamp actually makes me think I might be a militant radical feminist. I'm a Christian and I find all of those scripture quotes extremely offensive and degrading to women. You don't have to submit to a man to be loved by God. You don't have to stay silent and out of any theological discussion because you're a woman. "What mercy on the woman!" my foot. She was raped and God did not blame her for being raped. WHOOPDEE DOO! I'd never respect Him if He did! She still does not have to marry her attacker.
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