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NonieR [2013-09-27 21:17:11 +0000 UTC]
Hmm. It's a great pic, but nothing about that face except possibly the fullness of the lips says "female" to me. Length of nose, *breadth* of mouth, and shape of jaw are all more masculine.
Apologetically,
--Nonie
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I-Am-Madbat In reply to NonieR [2013-10-18 01:32:12 +0000 UTC]
'Fraid i have to agree, I thought that was a male.
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NonieR In reply to yankee30 [2013-09-28 04:10:04 +0000 UTC]
And yet Ms. Sackhoff still has a recognizably female face, while (to my mind) Ms. X doesn't, because of which elements of the real face have been adapted to which more simplified lines. It's not an attack; I just figured you might want to keep an eye on ways to avoid the confusion.
--Nonie
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yankee30 In reply to NonieR [2013-09-28 07:35:27 +0000 UTC]
Any more non feminine females you see in my work ?
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NonieR In reply to yankee30 [2013-09-28 19:48:29 +0000 UTC]
Besides Hilary Swank? (Yeah, yeah; I know.)
Solange's jaw/chin; Duinen's got that long androgynous John Lennon face, but we can still tell she's female; ditto Baroness, and sorta with "Goodbye Tommy" and your Gunsexy lounger. Other'n that, I'm not spotting any confusably gendered faces on the first five pages of your stuff.
Just don't get me wrong; I *like* that you're drawing strong and determined women rather than delicate bimbos. It's just that the feature/proportion differences between men and women are pert' close and hard to pin down, and you're sorta doing the opposite of bishi men. A woman's muscles can firm and square the jaw she's got, but the jawbone shape and the proportion of the facial features wouldn't change underneath.
At least without a lotta steroids.
I met a woman once at an sf convention--lean and a little nondescript, being a weightlifter but NOT a bodybuilder--and once she figured out I wasn't gonna mistake her for some kinda freak (or a lesbian; she'd gotten picked on a LOT in her small town), she shyly showed me her art; she was fascinated by truly heavy real muscle - the structures of bulls and elephants and heavy plowhorses; how their muscles attached to the spine and other bones; how their feet had evolved into wide flat structures to carry that much weight; and so on.
She was working on an SF concept in her head and art: how human colonists might adapt physically to a higher-gravity world over thousands of years. Using those animal models, she'd drawn their feet as no longer arched or long-toed, for example, and figured out the sort of neck muscles it would take to keep their heads upright, and so on.
I've wondered for a long time what she ended up doing (and whether her husband encouraged her differences or ended up trying to make her girlier), and I kinda hope she found an art site like this to post her work on. But DeviantArt being as huge as it is, I'd probably never see her work even if she were here unless by lucky coincidence.
--Nonie
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windjammer500 [2013-04-14 20:05:28 +0000 UTC]
Excellent do more story please.
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yankee30 In reply to windjammer500 [2013-04-15 19:07:40 +0000 UTC]
Background Story is up now
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