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Despite being called a prequel, Wicked is not really part of the Oz books canon.
I'm sorry guys, but seriously
Wicked and The Wizard of Oz are not the same story.
I am few of who likes Elphaba and Dorothy? For your information Wicked and The Wizard of Oz are NOT the same story.
The Wizard of Oz was WAY before Wicked and Wicked was originally a revicionist novel for adults.
The musical is just the novel toned down (like is been Disneyfied) and they made it changes for example Fiyero WAS not the Scarecrow, in the orignal novel he was married unhappily to a woman named Sarima had three children and he and Elpahba made an affair and the Wizard's secret police bruttaly murdered Fiyero.
Heck the original book of The Wizard of Oz was more darker than the movie (the tin man said he chopped the heads of birds and the Wizard really sent Dorothy and the gang to kill the Witch!).
Oh something else, don't blame Dorothy for the death of Nessarose, in the musical it was Madame Morrible who created the tornado to lure out Elphaba, so instead of blaming Dorothy, blame Madame Morrible for Nessa's death.
Despite that, I still like the songs and the 1939 movie but seriously, stop comparing them together.
Wicked-Gregory Maguire
The Wizard of Oz-L. Frank Baum
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Not to mention the musical whitewash one of the character Fiyero. He is supposed to be black or ochre in the book but for some reason most of the actor who portrays him are white
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I never believed they were canon to each other.Β There's too many contradictions and character inconsistencies.Β I just consider them alternate universes to each other.
On another note, I didn't like how every single person hated Elphaba in the beginning when she did absolutely nothing to them.Β There were a ton of odd, unique beings in Oz and they choose to hate on her because she's green skinned?Β Even when she turns "wicked", she never does anything evil (hence another reason I don't consider it the same universe as The Wizard of Oz).Β And when Glinda became friends with her, and had the opportunity to clear Elphaba's name multiple times in the show, she doesn't.Β At the end, everyone still hates her when in the beginning they had no reason to hate her.
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I have no interest in Oz. None whatsoever. I never watched the film unlike most children it seems. I'm here because I heard Wicked is serving Idina Menzel. That is all.
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Too true. There are too many differences.
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My favourite interpretation of the OZ novels is 'Return to Oz'
And about the whole you have to hate the hero if you love the villian thing is BS.
I'm one of the biggest Randall Boggs fans and yet I really love Mike and Sulley. And when people start accusing me of being a villian lover for liking characters like Randall, Hexadecimal from Reboot and the Phantom of the Opera, let me state this:
- in the Alice books, I love Alice. In the Oz books, I love Dorothy.
In Peter Pan, I like Peter. In rise of the gaurdians, I like Sandy And the list goes on.
So I like Heros and villians.
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Villains can be fun and entertaining.Β Β
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Glad to find someone who likes both Elpheba and Dorothy! I figured that they're not connected to each other in a canon way. There were some things that don't connect between the two musicals from major things (such as the Wicked Witch's personality (Evil in one musical, good but misunderstood in the other) to small things (Glinda's pink dress in one version and Glinda wearing blue in other).
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Funny thing is, yesterday I was talking about 'Wicked' the musical, and right in the middle of me talking, this girl just butts in by randomly talking about the wizard of oz movie. I told her, THERE NOT THE SAME!!
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I thought everyone knew this. They're two different canons. Wicked is a mix of the book-verse and movie-verse into its own verse.
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No, you have those people who INSIST Wicked is the true story, and every other interpretation is a lie (even the 1939 movie or book itself).Β I even had someone tell me that the Tin Man is lying about his backstory in L. Frank Baum's original book (ignoring the fact that L. Frank Baum originated the story in 1900, Gregory Maguire wrote the Wicked novel in 1995 and it became a musical in 2003).
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A-freaking-men!
I like Wicked and all, but I just can't accept it as canon. There are too many inconsistencies and plotholes in it for it to match up with the original source material and the sad thing is that it is accepted as canon. I just see Wicked as a decent fanfiction that has a profit behind it, in all honesty. Just wondering, have you read the original books?
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Thanks
No I didn't, but I know about them from wikipedia
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I've read the first one and am working on the second one, and so far I would recommend it. It's a pretty easy read and it's just brilliant, however it's sad that there aren't that many people that know about the series...
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probably because their are overshadowed by the 1939 musical version
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Yeah that's probably the biggest reason why. While it is a good movie, it really takes artistic liberties from the book but I really don't kind with some of the changes. Heck, if they crammed the whole book in detail-for-detail, it would probably be a two and a half hour long movie. Or something like that. Point is it would be very long. :b
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dis true :b
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I prefer the Oz books over anything else; it's an amazing series(or at least the original books)
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I cannot thank you enough for this stamp. Itβs SO good to know Iβm not the only one out there. Iβm a HUGE Oz fan. Have been ever since I was a kid. I love the original books so much. BUT... every time I try to carry on a conversation with someone about them, they always think of Wicked. Some people actually believe itβs the official Wizard of Oz. And it is so unbelievably annoying. I try to explain to them about the original books, but apparently no one nowadays knows they even exist. Itβs just sad.
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Amen.Β What's worse is Wicked fans who know the Oz books exist and just don't care.Β They insist that Wicked is telling the true story and all the other ones were wrong.
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I like the songs from Wicked but I also hate when people compare it with the original Wizard of Oz stories.
It makes me sad too.
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At last, I find someone else who likes Elphaba AND Dorothy, and knows 'Wicked' and 'The Wizard of Oz' are two very different stories.
I LOVE YOU. Your words just made my day. <3
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you're welcome!
Glad, I am not alone
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You can cram them together and MAKE them fit, but I agree, they have some inconsistencies. Wicked is a great spin-off though!
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Very true.
I hate when people try and reconcile the two, it cannot be done.
Wicked is an entirely different (and not as good imo) universe.
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They are most certainly not the same.
As for which one is better.. that's debatable.
Love the stamp!
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thank you!
Different stories but not the same
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The stories are similar, in some respects.. definitely not the same, though.
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They're alternate universes. The Oz movies, musical, and Wicked book are AU from each other.
I thought it was obvious..
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After reading the adaption of the second Oz novel, I can see why readers were upset at the idea of Oz actually usurping the legitimate heir to the throne. Didn't seem to be in his personality that was established in the first book at all. And I can see why later books quietly buried this. I normally believe an author should rise above what his readers WANT, but in this case, it was a smart move.
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Thank you, someone else who believes 'The Wizard of Oz' and 'Wicked' are not the same thing.
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this this this and more of this. ive read the book and i hate what the author has done to the original characters, it makes me sad. i like the musical, but...still.
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