Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2015-10-31 16:30:45 +0000 UTC]

There, there, mate. Yeah, I'm coming up for a bit of air here. Good to see you again, as well.

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camorus----234 In reply to Alligator-Fists [2015-10-31 17:04:35 +0000 UTC]

you ok mate, and done any of your trademark camo? or given up on that little lark, I did for a while but alfex2010 and calpa have re-ignited my interest again!

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Alligator-Fists In reply to dissizithawaii [2015-10-27 11:11:03 +0000 UTC]

That's some slick-lookin' stuff there. Very professional. I especially like the faded, worn effect you've got goin' on with a lot of the gear and patterns.

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dissizithawaii In reply to Alligator-Fists [2015-10-28 08:48:07 +0000 UTC]

thanks man, really dig the camo's you have.

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Alligator-Fists In reply to dissizithawaii [2015-10-28 19:45:51 +0000 UTC]

I got a whole collection called "Steal This Pattern" which are open for reskinning or whatever other use. You're welcome to use them as part of your own excellent work.

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dissizithawaii In reply to Alligator-Fists [2015-10-29 11:02:11 +0000 UTC]

mahalo brah, will give you a hollar if I use anything

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-11-23 11:40:34 +0000 UTC]

I am being held captive by donkeys. SEND HELP.

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camorus----234 In reply to Alligator-Fists [2013-11-23 15:50:50 +0000 UTC]

Are these donkeys armed and male, cos n I'M not FIGHTING A MALE donkey , they got big hardware they have!!!

How many ' sofs' do u need to fight donkeys mate!!!   

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-08-09 15:29:57 +0000 UTC]

Probably a good source--I'll stay away from it myself for fear of being accused of copyright infringement, but I do hope it's useful!

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camorus----234 In reply to Alligator-Fists [2013-08-09 18:23:57 +0000 UTC]

U CAN DOWNLOAD the pdf, it's only the patent information maan, they aren't always watching us honest [NSA and that computer program thingy]. sTop being paranoid mate   

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-07-30 07:28:26 +0000 UTC]

There's an earlier post in response to this question: sadly I've learned little sense then. However, I do strongly recommend looking at scientific papers on the human visual system and the way camouflage works--those have been a tremendous help for me.

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camorus----234 In reply to Alligator-Fists [2013-07-31 10:38:57 +0000 UTC]

Sorry about that, hadn't realised 'texture analysis and visual frequency' were one and the same thing!! oops silly me

Thanks mate

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-07-27 10:42:19 +0000 UTC]

Already done, mate.

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-04-06 12:03:07 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the heads-up! Took a look, and left some comments there.

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-03-31 15:16:33 +0000 UTC]

If you're looking for information and inspiration, try looking around for information on optics, visual systems, object recognition, and disruptive coloration in the natural world. Just using Google for those alone should give you all kinds of good stuff!

As for me, I'm still working on some ideas, and grappling with math.

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-03-31 15:21:19 +0000 UTC]

I'm sure he'll make himself known.

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-03-25 06:11:25 +0000 UTC]

I have a very poor understanding, but I'll do my best.

Environments tend to have objects of certain sizes and shapes distributed in certain ways. Take a look at the sand on a beach, and you'll see a bunch of different colors of sand. It won't be evenly mixed, either. Plus there's shells and rocks and stuff. All this tend to be ditributed in characteristic ways.

You get the same thing in a forest. Groups of smaller objects (leaves) all bunched together, not evenly distributed like static, and in groups of certain shapes and sizes.

Same thing goes for just about any environmental feature you can think of.

This combination of typical sizes and shapes is--I believe--what is called the "visual frequency" or sometimes "texture" of an environment.

Texture matching, or visual frequency matching, is the act of making your camouflage match this. Basically, if you got the right shapes in the right places, your camo blends a lot better!

How is it done? Math! Lots and lots of math. Determinng visual frequency--or texture--and creating or analyzing images based on that is a huge subject in optics, machine vision, and computation.

I am trying to understand this stuff, but the last time math and I met we had a throwdown and math left me coughing teeth onto the floor. I have it in a compliance hold now, so there'll be no more of that, but I don't know if I'll ever get it to say uncle. Some of what you see in my latest patterns are the result of this fight.

All is not lost, though. Even if you don't have the math skills, or access to image analysis software, trying to do things by eye and get the general texture will probably help improve your camos and lead you to learn all kinds of cool stuff besides!

Hope that helps, a little.

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Alligator-Fists In reply to camorus----234 [2013-03-15 15:45:12 +0000 UTC]

That's actually a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion!

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