Anophior In reply to Just-Joeying [2018-01-22 23:56:16 +0000 UTC]

the more i look at this the more upset i get

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Just-Joeying In reply to Anophior [2018-01-23 02:45:21 +0000 UTC]

good

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Anophior In reply to GrimCanidae [2017-04-28 23:10:18 +0000 UTC]

oh my goodness  you are so sweet
i'm packing tonight and tomorrow so i should be able to discord tomorrow night !!

i will get right on that art !

actually maybe i can discord tonight

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GrimCanidae In reply to Anophior [2017-04-28 23:38:47 +0000 UTC]

8) le goooooo <2

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Anophior In reply to GrimCanidae [2017-04-28 23:11:55 +0000 UTC]

dADDY  !!

hello guess what 
ur not funny

i love u too ! also i want a full heart plS
  
i have so many for u

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GrimCanidae In reply to Anophior [2017-04-28 23:39:35 +0000 UTC]

I'm totally funny, excuse you. #dadjokes for a reason

<2222

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Anophior In reply to keiranikaela [2017-01-30 04:53:08 +0000 UTC]

oh man that's super cool ! it's amazing how many people are from around here
i wish u well and i hope you're able to come back one day

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Anophior In reply to ShadowsOfTheWolves [2016-11-11 22:40:48 +0000 UTC]

sTOP THIS

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ShadowsOfTheWolves In reply to Anophior [2016-11-12 03:54:16 +0000 UTC]

hEAD, SHOULDERS, KNEES AND HOES

8)

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Anophior In reply to ShadowsOfTheWolves [2016-11-12 23:09:06 +0000 UTC]

kNEES AND HOES 

O H M Y G O D 
ITS ME

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ShadowsOfTheWolves In reply to Anophior [2016-11-13 05:21:55 +0000 UTC]

sAME THO. HOES UNITE

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Anophior In reply to MotherAbigail [2016-10-24 05:11:17 +0000 UTC]

ahh i'm sorry i haven't been able to come to any of your streams/be active

i'm in uni right now and at any given moment there's like three shitstorms happening and i have zero time to do anything
rip me

i'm doing o k ish i think! i'm not failing any courses aha. i hope you're doing well too and hopefully i'll be able to find some time soon !!

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MotherAbigail In reply to Anophior [2016-10-24 23:04:39 +0000 UTC]

Thats okay. I just wanted to know how things were with you. <3

Hope we get to like hang in skype and stream again like we used to.

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Anophior In reply to MotherAbigail [2016-11-12 00:19:51 +0000 UTC]

ahhh that's so nice friend

yess when my break starts i'll hang out with you guys !!

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Anophior In reply to Drerika [2016-08-22 11:20:12 +0000 UTC]

i'm sorry its 4 in the morning so i might have some problems

but, i might join it idk i don't trust myself to make decisions rn please forgive me

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Anophior In reply to PoetryOD [2015-07-21 23:03:35 +0000 UTC]

ah no problem, your writing is amazing!

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Anophior In reply to Tinadactyl [2015-04-28 22:15:08 +0000 UTC]

No problem, your art is lovely.
I can't wait to see more stuff about Syamidrakes.

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Anophior In reply to Vannjaren [2014-11-28 02:00:00 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, thank you!

and shhhh no your art is fantastic,
the level of detail you put in is amazing, I get impatient even thinking about the time you must put into your drawings.

I look forward to seeing art of your species, especially Krovendrakk, you have very interesting ideas (and the knowledge to back them up).
and if you don't mind a question um, what internal organs do the Krovendrakk have? And where are they?

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Vannjaren In reply to Anophior [2014-11-28 02:11:12 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome! ^^

Haha, aww, it really isn't... it's not just as fantastically epicly failing as it once was, but it's still a million miles from mediocre, let alone good.
Ha, I am a slooooow artist (or "artist", rather)... but a lot of time is spent staring at the art thinking how to make it fail less compared to the actual amount of time spent drawing.

Aww, thankyou very much - haha, more Krovens on the way, I can say that for sure - very busy at the moment in other areas of life, but I have started a few sketches.
Very glad you like my Krovens - Krovendrakk for singular, Krovendraekk for plural.

And no, of course I don't mind questions - and actually, that's a very reasonable question given the unusual shape of Krovendraekk, and in fact I DO plan on doing a reference illustrating all of their internal organs. ^^

The deceptive thing with Krovens is that although they're very narrow and thin, they ARE still long, so they do contain fairly typical organs compared to most vertebrates - they still have lungs, heart, liver, stomach, pancreas, spleen, duodenum, jejunum, ileum, colon, kidneys and bladder etc., but the arrangement is different due to their shape.
Unlike cats and dogs etc., Krovens have a more serpentine internal anatomy - i.e. the stomach is more tubular rather than like a rounded "bag" in most other animals, and the kidneys are not located side-by-side, but one in front of the other. Their intestines are also not very long, since they have a large surface area given the size of the creatures, and also because Krovens have much more powerful digestive enzymes, and so since their food is broken down more effectively, less transit time is required for digestion and so length of jejunum and ileum is reduced - in a similar way to vampire bats on a diet of blood have the shortest intestines of any mammal, although Krovens don't have such a simple diet, their more potent enzymes produce a similar effect on intestinal length, and so their intestines don't need to be as long as one would expect for a typical vertebrate, so are less coiled and bulky and take up less space.
Their reproductive organs are also partially internalised - you may have noticed that male Krovendraekk do not have testicles. Instead they have another organ for the purposes of spermatogenesis... but all will eventually be explained regarding KD reproductive organs at a later date.
I hope though that clears up a bit regarding Kroven organs in general, and thanks for the question - I love answering stuff on my noodlebabies! (Krovens)

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Anophior In reply to Vannjaren [2014-11-29 02:05:38 +0000 UTC]

Whoa, thanks for all the information. It really clears things up for me.
And yeah, I was pretty curious, their bodies are just so skinny. It doesn't seem like they would have any room for organs.
I can't wait to see more about your noodle babies.

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Vannjaren In reply to Anophior [2014-11-29 17:17:55 +0000 UTC]

No problem at all there!
Ahaha, it was a good question indeed, since Krovens may have fur, but that's where the similarities with mammals end - their structure has very little in common with other quadrupedal predators such as felines and canines, since they do not share any relation with them. ^^ So often people judge their structure based with these animals as a comparison, but it's not an accurate comparison, indeed in structure they have more in common with serpents in terms of organ layout. (aside from the chest - snakes have one lung, or two lungs but one of them rudimentary - Krovens do, unlike snakes, have a distinct thoracic cavity and ribcage, so they do possess two lungs and a large heart - this is required for their active lifestyle and circulatory demands when sprinting).
Of course, the internal layout isn't exactly like that of a snake, but it DOES at least give a better general comparison in terms of how their organs are a bit altered in shape and position to accommodate their unusual proportions. Vine snakes are incredibly narrow creatures but still have a full quota of organs, but it's just the arrangement that's altered - ha, they're a good example to give when others assume that Krovens couldn't possibly have room for organs, since vinies still manage it! :'D Better to "think serpent" than thinking mammal when it comes to Kroven abdomens.

Ha, I have had some rather humorous comments though regarding the narrowness of my Krovens, such as "Sweet God! How does it digest food?!?!".
Even asking whether they had animal cells at all...

But yes... it is something I will illustrate - I think things which are particularly notable is the decreased intestinal length (due to adaptations I described earlier), the more tubular/elongated stomach, the way the liver is greater in dimensions longitudinally rather than laterally, and the position of the kidneys being one in front of the other rather than adjacent. ^^
Their digestive system is generally much more efficient than that of terrestrial vertebrates, hence why the size is relatively decreased.

Hehe, their build is very odd indeed(but I love their weirdness <3) so I can totally see why people wonder about such things - for one thing, cats and dogs have 13 thoracic vertebrae and ribs, and 6/7 lumbar vertebrae - Krovens have 12 thoracic vertebrae and ribs, which isn't much different (in fact it's the same number humans have as I'm sure you know), but the big thing is that they have between 22 and 28 lumbar vertebrae! (depending on the clan of the Krovendrakk) Hence why the chest appears so short relative to the back - they don't have fewer ribs, but the lumbar portion has been greatly "stretched" by comparison, allowing for much greater flexion and extension of the back when sprinting, and also for increased flexibility for turning, leaping and generally aiding their agility.

Ha, whoops, I ended up a little more on my Krovens, but I hope you didn't mind there. :'D

Very glad you found it interesting, as you can tell I love to share stuff on my species! I love when someone shows an interest and curiosity in my Noodlebabies, and it's much appreciated indeed! <3
I'm very busy at the moment, but ONE DAY there will indeed be more Krovens!

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Anophior In reply to Vannjaren [2014-11-30 01:54:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, no I don't mind at all. It's amazing that you know all this information.
When I first saw your art, I was horrified at how skinny they were. I was like there is no way that animal could function in real life. The more you explain the more it makes sense, though.
Have you seen bird lungs? They actually function quite differently from mammals. I thought perhaps that Krovens had bird-like lungs, because they function way better that mammalian lungs, so they could be smaller and still provide enough oxygen.

I do have two more questions, if you will indulge me.
To my knowledge Krovens live on Earth, or at least a world with similar gravity. How do they get around the gravity/size issues? Do they have lighter bones?
And why did they end up so big? To some extent getting larger would be an evolutionary advantage, but at that size it seems it would become a handicap. The amount of muscle mass they would have to have to support themselves becomes redundant, and they don't seem to have very much muscle. Although I recall reading that their muscles are stronger than average.

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Vannjaren In reply to Anophior [2014-11-30 16:36:05 +0000 UTC]

D'aww, thankyou very much yet again!
Ahaha, yes... they do indeed look like rather strange creatures though, I will admit that, and a lot of people have found them quite ugly as a result - which I don't mind at all, in fact I take it as a sort of a compliment since Krovendraekk were not one of those species designed to be pretty, as so many people design species purely for aesthetics, but they were always intended to look strange and otherworldly, echoing their mostly alien origins, and also they were inspired a lot by evolution, and particularly the stranger turns that evolution may take. I've always liked weird and quirky things, so in a way I'm pleased that they're not to everyone's taste... they were never intended to be. A few loyal Kroven-fans is worth a lot more to me than loads of people who'd just like my species "because it's pretty". They've always been more about the characters, their stories and weird science to me - I don't personally find them ugly since I don't really find any wild creatures ugly - I see beauty in function and adaptation more than anything else. (well, yes, I do find some of their fur mutations pretty on the characters, but I'm talking there about the species as a whole ^^)

Haha, I'm not surprised - a few people have loved Krovens at first sight, but a lot of people have a bit of an "" reaction at first to them, which only sort of makes sense on a second look. Ha, people tend to think they always look hungry, but there's no need to throw biscuits at them, haha... Krovendraekk lack any fat stores, so weight is irrelevant to their health, and other indicators show the condition of the individual instead. (like coat, ornamental fur, activity levels... etc.)

And ah yes, I find bird lungs interesting indeed... and actually there's a rather LONG explanation about how Krovens are adapted in terms of oxygenation. I can give it here, but I'll mark the end of that particular bit with bullet points to let you know where I return from my tangent to answer your proper questions - since I have developed a fair bit about how Kroven lungs etc. work. (You don’t have to read that bit unless you really want to)
Here goes... you were warned about the giant ramble! I've tried to keep it "short and simplified" here, but I'm not very good at either of those two things. :'D

Krovens have lungs which are a bit more similar to mammal lungs than bird lungs, in that they lack the air sacs - these would take up additional space in a creature which is already adapted for streamlining and saving space, and, being linked with the bones, it increases the risk of infection entering the bones or abdominal cavity. The "air capillary" system of birds does have a bit of a parallel in Krovens (as well as standard mammalian-type respiratiory tissue, they do also have "circuit air capillaries" where some bronchioles do not terminate but are instead looped around to form respiratory tissue which reconnects with the bronchus at a separate position), but Krovens do still have alveoli. The main reason though why bird lungs are more efficient is that they have less anatomical deadspace than humans and mammals - Krovendraekk have more efficient exhalation and inhalation, as described in the below; though the mechanism is very different, like birds, they have reduced anatomical deadspace.

I would first say that it's important to remember that in most animals, when you're looking at the "chest", the apparent width, depth and length are also accentuated by the presence of flesh on top of the ribcage, making the apparent chest volume seem larger than it actually is. Thus, in Krovendraekk... the apparent volume of the chest is actually more representative of the true volume of the chest than in other creatures when you look at them due to the elongated and flattened nature of their musculature. And so, basically, when you're looking at the chest from the outside, unlike in other animals where you'd have to consider the bulk of superficial flesh as well as other factors, the apparent volume of the chests of Krovendraekk could be considered to be almost entirely filled by the heart and lungs since the flesh of their chest lies flatter over their ribs(also their chests aren't as muscular as some other parts of the body); and in proportion to the rest of their internal organs, this does make up a large proportion of their internal body cavity.

One thing I'll also underline is that tidal volume is actually much more important than total thoracic capacity. You see, in a human with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, they have a larger thoracic volume than a normal human, but have a smaller tidal volume as they cannot exhale as fully. The same as in restrictive lung defects where there is a defect that prevents a normal tidal volume(although the chest is smaller). In both cases, it is not the size of the chest and lungs, but their ability to expand and contract, which influences respiratory sufficiency.

With mammals, the ribcage is fairly rigid, consisting of the ribs attached by chondral cartilage to the sternum, allowing for a degree of movement of the ribcage, assisted of course as well by the diaphragm which helps to further enlarge thoracic volume on inspiration.

But with Krovendraekk, as you could see here:  vannjaren.deviantart.com/art/A…  (two different clans but both show this feature -in fact, these are the Renvor and Kårstatt clan respectively), they have jointed ribs. In all clans this is a feature; the joint does not add massive range of movement, but it does still further increase the flexibility and thus the degree to which the chest volume can be altered; i.e. they can exhale and inhale to a greater volume difference than a mammal of the same resting chest volume would be capable of. (not unlike how cetaceans can breathe much more efficiently)
The Kårstatt clan may seem to have particularly narrow chests, but you'll also see that their ribs are held at a much more acute angle than the other clans (this rib angulation is one of their hallmark features), but their rib joints have a much greater range of movement, allowing for much greater exhalation, and also greater inhalation, so although they have a smaller chest volume they can achieve an elevated tidal volume - this would result in hypocapnia in the situation of standard activity levels, but the flexibility of the ribs isn't relied upon as greatly under normal physiological circumstances, only in greater levels of exertion.

But as I was saying, this allows for a much greater RELATIVE expansion of the chest compared to the original volume than seen in the comparatively rigid chests of mammals, and even more so than in other clans. The jointed, angled ribs allow for a more pronounced longitudinal and anteroposterior expansion during sprinting, but the joints do not have much of an effect on lateral expansion; which is indeed beneficial as streamlining is maintained whilst still allowing for a greater tidal volume. (indeed, the flexibility of their ribcage in this particular clan also enables better shock absorptions from blows, and even allows them to partially collapse their ribcage to slip through narrow crevasses and gaps)

Another point is that Krovendraekk aren't exactly what you'd call "bulky", and so they don't have enormous oxygen demands for their size. Furthermore, they do have some different energy storage mechanisms that slightly reduce their reliance on aerobic metabolism when under demand (they still do require more oxygen on exertion of course, but this does help to lower the threshold oxygen requirement a bit). Also, they do have some internal "biomechanical" mechanisms (which are interlinked with the muscle fibres and are almost microscopic in size at times) which serve to amplify the power produced by muscular contraction and maximise efficiency; these mechanisms do not require oxygen (working instead by either passive lever action or supplied by the metaphysical capabilities of the Krovendrakk via harnessing external energy and channelling it subconsciously), thus serving as a further reduction in total proportional oxygen demand.

Also, because of the length of their bodies, as visceral organs tend to have compressable air within them, because most creatures have shorter bodies, the degree to which their internal contents can be longitudinally compressed is relatively lower than in Krovendraekk; their diaphragms are therefore able to flatten to a greater degree than in mammals, so their inspiratory volume is increased; this is an internal mechanism of course and there are no external visible clues as to this feature; it doesn't result in a massive increase in volume, only a small one... but when taken into consideration with the previous features it does make a contribution.

And also, they do have a UNIQUE ADAPTATION - yet another adaptation present in Krovendraekk but not in mammals is a large-diameter, highly vascularised trachea suitable for gaseous exchange. The trachea is larger in diameter in Krovendraekk than in mammals; this also serves in Krovendraekk to decrease turbulence of airflow, and along with the greater muscular control over thoracic volume, enables a higher FEV1/FVC ratio and greater respiratory efficiency at a higher rate.
But the major benefit of this is increased membranous surface area; as I said earlier, their trachea is highly vascular... but it's not quite as simple as that. Under normal conditions, the numberous and branching capillary network is physiologically "shunted" by means of precapillary sphincters restricting blood flow, and redirecting it elsewhere... but with high adrenaline levels associated with sprinting, adrenoceptor activation results in relaxation of the vascular smooth muscle and precapillary sphincters, allowing blood to enter this network...
The membrane of the trachea is moistened by secretions to facilitate gas exchange, and membranes can be surprisingly efficient at gas exchange; indeed, the lungless salamanders rely entirely on the diffusion of oxygen through their moist skin, and live without lungs - the trachea of Krovendraekk is just as efficient at gas exchange. But yes... the capillary network of a Krovendrakk's trachea is highly branched and very superficial, to increase surface area and decrease diffusion distances(oh Fick's law, how I love thee... ).
This enables the transfer of a large amount of oxygen across the trachea directly to the blood supply, so effectively, the lungs aren't the only structure which supply oxygen; the tracheal epithelium also provides a large extra "hit" of oxygen, unlike in mammals and other vertebrates. (also the cartilaginous ridges on the internal surface are more pronounced in order to increase internal membranous surface area.)
Under standard conditions, as I said, this is not used and the lungs alone are the site of gas exhange, but under exertion the tracheal epithelial mechanism also comes into play. It also helps that their necks aren't exactly what you'd describe as "short" - indeed, all mammals have seven cervical vertebrae but Krovendraekk have twelve, and twelve fairly long ones at that. :'D
This is another "invisible" adaptation, but a very useful one at that - Krovens may not appear to have large chests, but their respiratory efficiency is greater than one would expect owing to a lot of specialised adaptations.

One important thing with the species - the proportions of Krovendraekk, being so unusual, are sometimes deceptive when you look at them. One thing I would say is when you see that the ribcage doesn't go to the elbow, and is relative to total body length... sometimes with Krovens it may seem as though something is reduced in size, but it's actually surrounding structures which are elongated.
Krovendraekk have very long scapulae, and an elongated humerous; these parts of the forelimbs may seem shorter than the rest, but that's because the radioulnar regions, carpals and metacarpals are also elongated; hence, with the increased length of scapula and humerus, the elbow is significantly lower, rather than the chest having been made shorter; indeed, the ribcage still has twelve ribs and twelve thoracic vertebrae - one less than a dog, and the same as in humans; it is the great increase in the lumbar spine which makes the ribcage appear so much shorter; about four times the number of lumbar vertebrae as a dog, and over five times that of a man.
The narrowness of the ribcage and the level of the elbow are intentional in the species, to allow for a greater freedom and range of motion of the shoulder. Furthermore, their bodies are long, serpentine and flexible; a large or bulky ribcage would impact this in a negative way, hence the aforementioned adaptations to more than compensate for this.
There are some small disadvantages to this however; a lower thoracic volume and smaller FRC does mean that they're less buoyant, and so are not good at swimming; capable, but certainly not good at it.

There, back onto the other topics now!
Haha, I know that wasn't technically one of your questions, but it was a very interesting point you brought up that I wanted to share - I hope you found it interesting nonetheless and that it helped explain a bit more how Krovens breathe. ^^

Ah, how they cope with gravity? They do indeed come from an alternate version of Earth with pretty much the same gravity. I'll explain a bit here regarding your question...
Well, for starters...
They may be very tall and very long creatures, but the shape of their frame is very low in bulk - as such, they have a low body volume relative to their size in terms of length and height - if one was to scale a cat or dog up to the same height, they would be much broader and heavier in frame. Krovens have very long bodies and limbs, but aren't thick-framed - if you were to represent their frame as a square in terms of their length and height, very little of that square is actually taken up by the bulk of the creature - i.e., there's a lot of space underneath those long legs. (just a way of sort of describing their build I guess)
In a way, they're less like huge creatures with big frames, and more like a smaller animal that's been greatly stretched and elongated.
The very essence of their shape itself is lightness and streamlining, so that alone means they’re not heavy creatures given their height and length. There were plenty of sauropods of similar height and/or length, and they coped fine with gravity, and they were MUCH bulkier in build with huge guts for digesting plant material, thick heavy tails and long, weighty necks. Krovens might have similar length dimensions, but in terms of the rest of their dimensions, VERY different.

On top of this, Krovens do have adaptations for lightness – their bones aren’t quite “hollow”, but do have a modified trabecular cross-strut structure to decrease weight whilst preserving and increasing strength – their limbs need to be light for fast running, but they also need to be able to withstand the extreme forces experienced on sprinting to prevent fractures. So their skeleton is in general lighter than that of typical quadrupedal vertebrates, even if not quite to the extent of birds. The skeleton, like the muscles, may also contain inorganic components such as metallic parts or even microscopic diamond regions interwoven into the structure, occurring at stress points so that their bones remain light due to structure but are reinforced where necessary to prevent breakage. Additionally, Krovendraekk have different compounds in their bodies compared to mammals – in many cases they use equivalent compounds which are lighter, but essentially perform the same task. Also, you’ll notice that the widest/deepest part of the animal’s body is the chest – and this is mostly taken up by lungs. :’D

Now... onto SIZE!

Because of their very light structure, becoming larger did not pose the issues which it would to most other creatures, as although they were taller, their joints were designed to take the small increase in weight, and indeed many of the taller races (clans) are also a bit more elongated in build. Also, most creatures of that size, if they were mammalian, would have a very large nutritional requirement, so being that big simple wouldn’t be feasible – but Krovendraekk AREN’T mammals. Not only do they possess a much more efficient digestive system and energy storage system, but they are also NOT truly warm-blooded either. As such, their energy requirements are much, much lower… for example, a large python or a large crocodile is much more efficient than a small one, and is poikilothermic (Krovens are somewhere between poikilothermic and gigantothermic – bit more complicated than that but I think I’ve enough already), and may only require one meal per year. Krovens are much larger so it stands to reason that they’re significantly more efficient again, especially given their other additional features – however, they ARE a lot more active, but even so, they only require 6-8 hunts per year, perhaps only 4 for very large Krovens (though they will take more at one time, obviously enough). Plus they don’t live in high population densities, and their version of earth is also much larger than our own. (same shape, gravity and countries but different size of planet – thinking because of different density or also some sort of binary system perhaps to offset gravity: not going to develop further though because I want the focus to be on my creatures instead.) As such, they do not exhaust the environment in the way a gigantic cougar or wolf would, nor do they have difficulty finding enough food for their size.

However, the larger a Krovendrakk, the easier it is to see, obviously enough – so the greater sprinting speed is actually in balance with the larger size.

And while they might not seem muscular, Krovendraekk actually are rather muscular creatures – lacking any fat whatsoever, most of what you’re looking at is muscle and bone. Their muscles are deceptive owing to their elongated structure(Krovens are “dry muscled” with their muscles being flattened and elongated, sort of “more spread out” due to their frame, but still there!), but there’s actually more muscle there than one may first assume. Also, as I mentioned earlier, they do have mechanisms to increase/amplify muscle power, as well as having more dense muscles. Also, it is true that the longer a muscle is, the more power it develops relative to its volume – and for their volume, Kroven muscles are certainly long! ^^ They might have a narrow frame, but they pack a lot more force than expected!

Ok... huge comment, but you ask really great questions, and I hope this aids in understanding the bizarre nature of my beloved Noodlebabies! <3

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Anophior In reply to Vannjaren [2014-12-01 00:07:59 +0000 UTC]

Whew, that was a long comment.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions and write all of this, it's amazing how much effort you have put into this species. 
Are you by any chance studying to become a doctor or veterinarian? Because the level of knowledge you posses about anatomy and such is phenomenal.
(I apologize for this pathetically short comment, i'm still trying to digest the information above.)

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Vannjaren In reply to Anophior [2014-12-01 13:07:59 +0000 UTC]

Haha, it was indeed, wasn't it?
Aww, you're very welcome indeed - in fact, thank YOU for being interested enough in my species to ask such questions, and such GOOD questions at that, it's been a pleasure talking about them with you. ^^ I can tell you're crazy smart just from the questions you ask, hehe.

Ha, you think so? Well... I do tend to develop them a bit like crazy, haha. I think if I gathered up all the info (of which this is only a fraction), I could probably write a freakin' THESIS on these guys. (can't decide whether that's a good thing or it just makes me a bit nuts... well, I AM nuts about my Noodles! <3 )

And funny you should ask that - I am indeed doing a medical degree! ^^ Yet, oddly enough, the anatomy and Kroven-related information has pretty much nothing to do with it!
A lot of people assume that because I'm doing medicine that it has some influence or bearing on my species, or that it would have really helped me with designing my creatures, but this couldn't be further from the truth really. I'll say a bit about why...

In medicine, we do quite a lot on cell structure and on disease processes, but very little on gross structure aside from internal organs - and those are the bones and internal organs of humans, which are clearly nothing like the bones and organs of Krovendraekk in terms of size, shape and layout... and in the case of the bones, numbers. Medicine doesn't take any kind of look at the adaptations of certain animals, including humans... nor does it examine the variation between species whatsoever. It's more just "how humans work, how they go wrong, and how to fix them!". (that's pretty much how I'd describe it in a nutshell)
So in fact, the info on humans is of no benefit when dealing with Krovendraekk - indeed, if you used it, it might actually be detrimental since you'd end up using human physiology or anatomy in cases where it wouldn't work in such an animal. :'D So if anything, it would actually be misleading rather than helpful on most counts... and may indeed narrow your perception in terms of creativity when you're only used to looking at one kind of structure, or at least I imagine it might have that influence.
I think Veterinary science would be a lot more relevant since at least you're learning about more than one species and therefore you see variations between species as well as dealing more with quadruped anatomy. ^^
But medicine... as interesting as it is, it's actually not really any use at all for my species. Hehe, even the "humanoid form" of Krovendraekk is only called so due to the bipedal gait and slightly similar overall shape, with hands for object manipulation etc., but the underlying structure of the body is still very different indeed, and the legs most definitely aren't human legs either.

However, the thing is that medicine does at least as a choice reflect my interest in science and biology, which is something I have a bit of a passion for as you might have noticed from the tsunami of Kroven info. I was actually tempted by veterinary medicine to start with, but I'm a strange person who would find it much harder to deal with sick and dying animals than people - I don't know why, and I don't think it's right/normal, but I've always felt that way. So I went for medicine instead - and even then I'm interested in more of the side-branch weird stuff like pathology, haematology and microbiology. ^^

But yes, as I was saying... there may be a lot of info, but contrary to popular belief, virtually NONE of it is from doing medicine as a degree - indeed, maybe only like 1% has been modified following my medical studies. :'D The rest... I've always had a lot of interest in science and zoology, so the Krovendrakk info comes from basically my "hobby-interests" in the natural world fused with interests in physics (I also did advanced-level physics at school before doing medicine) and my love for how evolution shapes creatures and produces their adaptations, plus a bit of sci-fi/fantasy influences in places but "backed-up" with biology - a lot of Krovendrakk features have been sorta invented from scratch but with some influence/basis on typical biology with a dash of logic/common sense thrown in. So it's basically from imagination, love of critters in general and hobby-studies... Krovens have emerged out of the grungy depths of my weird brain.

I actually had my Kroven babies well before I started Medicine, so they were kinda worked out before then - they have evolved a bit since, but not as a result of my course, rather just as a result of tweaking concepts in my head and refining things I wasn't so fond of. ^^

And aww, that's so kind of you to say! Haha, this is far from being all the info, but it is still rather a lot - I can see why it would take a while to read through. I wouldn't say my knowledge was that great though - I have a passion for that sort of thing, but I still wouldn't say I was anywhere near intelligent, ha. :'D Just sort of a bit of a "hobby bionerd" really, doesn't mean I've got a great grasp of biology, or so I think anyway. Still, thankyou very much for your kind words and appreciation!

And ha, take your time to read the info if you want, it's not going anywhere. No need to apologise at all for the short comment - the fact that you READ it was thanks enough for me! Hope it answered your Kroven-queries too!
If you want you could always comment on the info-dump at a later time, don't stress about replying - you don't have to, but the option is still there of course. ^^

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Anophior In reply to keiranikaela [2014-09-26 01:53:39 +0000 UTC]

No problem, your poetry is phenomenal.

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keiranikaela In reply to Anophior [2014-09-26 01:56:05 +0000 UTC]

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