Godzilla1489 In reply to pikachurulesyou [2013-03-13 22:23:05 +0000 UTC]

Do I look like I care?

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pikachurulesyou In reply to Godzilla1489 [2013-03-15 12:26:05 +0000 UTC]

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Godzilla1489 In reply to originalnameless [2013-01-15 23:14:36 +0000 UTC]

Yes, because I'm giving up one someone who takes Outlier feats and inconsistent writing that, with the case of venom defeating superman epsecially, who has inconsistent feats himself, as definitive proof of superman being weak.

The Outskirts Battle Dome at the Obdwiki.com would also destroy you're arguement as well.

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originalnameless In reply to Godzilla1489 [2013-01-16 02:29:06 +0000 UTC]

Then you lose?

I'm not saying Superman's "weak", you're putting words in my mouth
I'm saying he's lost to LESSER foes than Goku, that's my point.
Brock is a low-life,has no martial arts knowledge nor super-speed yet Supes struggled against him. If Supes was as strong as he is, how it happened?
And as I've said, had Venom happened to get lost in DBZ universe, a plain slap of any DBZ soldier will kill him

When Supes is depicted as "superstrong" you're all praises, then if he's depicted in "defeat" you're saying writing is inconsistent as an excuse?

You might be interested in checking this out too [link]

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Godzilla1489 In reply to originalnameless [2013-01-16 03:14:01 +0000 UTC]

Of course it.

Different writers have different preferences.

Like it has been said, superman is strong as he needs to be.

Superman has pushed planets, Tell me when has a Dragonball Character ever done that?

No? Then you can't prove that.

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originalnameless In reply to Godzilla1489 [2013-01-16 03:25:13 +0000 UTC]

You're avoiding my question about Supreman struggling on "INFERIOR" opponents, about Brawl, just a mutated HUMAN yet he managed to DRAG Supes. Then Venom was basically BEATING him. Yet those two guys WON'T bring the speed, intensity and SKILLS Goku has
That trumps your "Superman has pushed planets" argument again and again, this isn't about feat, strength isn't everything. If it does to you, then I'll point out Cell vs Trunks repeatedly.
In real life, specifically on boxing, you see speed and skills BEAT strenght. Mayweather to Hatton, Pacquiao to Margarito. Strenght doesn't matter much, trust me

You're just too biased towards Superman, you support the writing where he pushed planets you're bragging about then bashes the writing where he's being beaten, and that's the reason why you won't win in an argument, because you only see what you want to without seeing the big picture. At least try to be fair

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Godzilla1489 In reply to originalnameless [2013-01-16 11:29:17 +0000 UTC]

I am beeing fair.

Venom has beaten tangled with opponenets that should be stronger then him by far as well like The Juggernaut, yet cable beat him with ease.

And maybe Brawl is just, well, I don't know, just that powerful enough to hold his own against superman?

And tell me again how is DBZ the most powerful verse ever? Any proof that any characters can repair holes in time with their static electrcity, hold a minature black hole in their hand, or survive beeing crished between two whole planets with barely a scratch and many others?

No. Show me panel proof they can. Otherwise, no Dragonball character can actually touch Superman, which, after The Creators of Death Battle's 2.5 years of research on all the big sites for both characters that are legit resources, they proved my point better then I can.

Seriously, Try to actually back up your claims that DBZ verse is all powerful.

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originalnameless In reply to Godzilla1489 [2013-01-17 01:58:53 +0000 UTC]

We're just going back and forth LOL

My point is, Venom is NOTHING compared to DBZ. I don't care if he tangled with Juggernaut, Ghost Rider, Hulk and Superman. He is INFERIOR to Superman, something we can agree on but he was BEATING him. Goku NEVER lost to LESSER beings. EVER.
**So it really DOESN'T matter if Goku is perceived by you to be inferior to Superman because inferior ones had Supes STRUGGLING.**
And no. Brawl is a just mutant (human) with super-strength. NOTHING ELSE. You're GUESSING.

Maybe because Piccolo's half is Kami-Sama (meaning God).
Or Frieza destroying mountains just by staring at it.
Broly destroying a GALAXY.
Goku going up against the strongest, most skilled, fastest warriors of the universe.
Son Goku growing STRONGER than them everytime.
>> You're comparing oranges to apples. Superman does EVERYTHING ELSE, Goku FOCUSES in COMBAT so he doesn't display those ridiculous and laughable feats... if you're gonna put up Superman feats, have it his feats on COMBAT. <<


So here's the catch.
Let's go back to your earliest approach to me:
>> "And did you seriously say Dragonball is stronger then The Hulk, Gladiator, or even Superman prime?
....... Hahahaha, wow, you don't know at all what you are saying, do you."
I LOVE The Hulk, he is a creature of PURE strength. But NOTHING else. He won't be able to do anything against any Z soldier, ask anyone knowledgable as he doesn't have speed or skills to go against them. Any Z soldier will turn him to ash.
> Hulk was knocked out by Doc Samson (Hulk # 316)
> Hulk was HURT by a mini-missile (Hulk # 449) Imagine what a Z soldier KI blast will do to him.
> Hulk was choked off by a phyton (Hulk # 470)
So I don't just "say" DBZ is stronger than Hulk. I KNOW.

Then when asked about Venom and Brawl, first you said Supes was "letting" them win but I'm sure he WASN'T.
So you transition to "inconsistent" writing, now you're saying Venom is CONSISTENTLY portrayed going on par against stronger foes.
Which is which? It's clear you're GUESSING, you don't even know who Brawl is.
CONCLUSION: it was YOU who don't know at all what you are saying.
I courteously answered your statement piece by piece, I hope you do the same

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Godzilla1489 In reply to originalnameless [2013-01-17 03:18:34 +0000 UTC]

Thing is, Broly never destroyed the galaxy at once of he did, throwing him into the sun wouldn't of killed him.

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originalnameless In reply to Godzilla1489 [2013-01-17 03:34:55 +0000 UTC]

I never said "at once", your answer is irrelevant.

Just answer what I said on my previous comment.

Especially if you DO think Hulk is stronger than DBz, which is very laughable

Or how Superman has struggled badly against inferior opponents, in your honest opinions of course. Not with guesses.

Because my point was simple, Superman has STRUGGLED against inferior foes. And those opponents are LEVELS BELOW (power level, skills, speed) any Z soldier. Therefore it won't matter how strong he is or if he really was more powerful than Goku

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