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NimronKiTel
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[2006-02-10 01:24:27 +0000 UTC]
"Kylee M"
(United States)
# Statistics
Favourites: 760; Deviations: 122; Watchers: 117
Watching: 214; Pageviews: 15839; Comments Made: 5295; Friends: 214
# Interests
Favorite movies: 12 monkeysFavorite bands / musical artists: Not sure I have a favorite
Favorite writers: Patrick Rothfuss
Tools of the Trade: What trade? I have so many.
Other Interests: Dragons, robotics, poetry, writting, my friends
# About me
Current Residence: My imaginationFavourite genre of music: All forms
Operating System: Win7, Linux Mint, Slax... A few others
MP3 player of choice: Modified iPod Video - 30 gig
Shell of choice: We don't have a Shell around here....we have a Mobile1 though
Wallpaper of choice: Any kind that doesn't peel after three days.
Skin of choice: The skin on my bones.
Favorite cartoon character: Taz... Or Scooby Doo.
Personal Quote: Don't live life. Beat the SH*T out of it!
# Comments
Comments: 411
You're welcome. I actually had meant to do it before, but apparently got distracted and forgot. Apologies~.
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I wasn't being sarcastic or anything!!! I really thought highly of not only the fact that you do your own research before stating what you know and how you feel, you apologized for using harsh words. I honestly feel that you are a good person, and you said things that I could not, for lack of knowledge on such things. That person who was ripping apart JollyJack for his opinion did not want to be told that their opinion was wrong, and yet you countered with facts. I appreciate it at least. Thank you. =]
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Well thank you kindly~. I'm sorry for my partial skepticism, but as I said; this is the internet. One can never be totally sure.
Thank you for the follow up, it brought a very much needed smile to my face.
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Very true, very true.
I try to follow up when I can, but sometimes life is very hectic and it can take days.
Glad that I could bring some smiles. Life isn't worth it if you can't find yourself smiling. =]
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Understand that. Life likes being...interesting, XD.
True. Thank you~.
Gonna drop a +watch on you, just in case you get "lucky" again.
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Thank you very much, my friend~.
In other news; things are quieting down a little. My mom is feeling better and such. I swear at some point I will get back to our regular conversations.
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I'm glad to hear that your mother is doing better. And don't worry about the lag in communications okay. Take as much time as you need.
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Happily, Thank you for producing amazing art~.
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Gladly, thank you for your reply~
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I'm so happy! How can I repay you? This was an awesome early Christmas gift! I need to do something special in return!
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It's not necessary,
I'm sorry it's a little early for the sake of proper traditions, but I can't say for sure I'll be around much on the actual day and I was unable to find a way to schedule it. Oh well, small potatoes, right?
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^_^ I will certain enjoy it! I'm no artist so most of the PM features are lost on me, but I do love journal skins and polls! :-D
It's okay! Who doesn't love early Christmas gifts? Me and my mom don't really follow tradition. We had roast beef, mac 'n cheese, baked beans, rolls, pork (for those that wanted it) and peach pie on Thanksgiving instead of the usual turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, etc. My mom got her sweet potato pie though. For Christmas we're having baked spaghetti, rolls, and spinach instead of ham. XD We were going to do a beer can chicken, but we were sick of meat. It's no big deal to go outside the norm. There's no law against it and it's really only societal tradition.
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You could just as easily argue that your existence is artistic, no? You are after all a stroke from natures brush. XD, forgive me, I just woke up, I'm a little silly.
True. And I'm not one for "society" usually.
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Perhaps. XD I'm not that much of an artist. Here's some of my pictures that I drew for other people (it's their OCs in PowerPuff Girl form):
My first try at fan art:
Yeah, there's nothing that wrong with going against the norm.
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Those are really cute, XD.
Also, sorry for more delays and Happy New Years. Right after Christmas, my mom ended up in the hospital and I just haven't really felt like talking to anybody. Mostly, I just vegged out in one of my few computer games and waited... Shes out now, but shes not healthy. We'll see how it goes.
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XD Thanks! Glad you like my little sketches. I also write a few fan fiction stories here and there. I've gotten into a He-man mood lately. If you're familiar with the genre, feel free to look at them. crescentnubila.deviantart.com/…
Happy New Year to you as well. And don't worry so much about delays, I understand that things in real life pop up that have to be handled.
Oh wow, I'm sorry to hear that! A few weeks before Christmas, my mom and brother both got admitted to the hospital on the same day. >.> They're both long been discharged now, but I was still shook up. My mom is in better health than my bro is though, but they're not on death's door or anything.
I sincerely wish that your mom's health improves soon and lasts for a good, long while. Man, life is so harsh.......
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Seems I forgot to add you to my friends XD well here is changing that.
~Azure
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Hey buddy!
I'll get to your other comments a little later today or maybe tomorrow. I gotta take a break. So many messages to clear out!
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No rush, take your time. I still owe you two well-thought of comments on our others. x.x'''
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Comments that I vaguely remember... XD
Don't rush on them either. Get to them whenever you're ready.
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Our first songs, how they have fallen to silent noteless shambles...
I will, I promise.
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We just have to pick up where we left off.
Okay.
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It reminds me of a scene in one of my favorite books where the lead character is playing a song on his lute when a string snaps and he finishes the song - which is horribly complex - with the remaining six stings, much to the awe and admiration of the crowd. XD
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XD That does sound hilarious! However, we can't continue the song because I just can't remember the conversation.....
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I have the comment strings waiting for my input. I will get to them at some point x.x''
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Take your time buddy.
But how about another song?
What's your honest opinion on Mars colonization and space exploration? NASA is planning a manned research mission in 2030 to Mars, but they'll be returning. There's a private Dutch company called Mars One that plans to actually live there in the first Mars colony. From what I learned of their mission, they're not aware of things that NASA is.
I just don't understand the obsession over Mars. It's a dead planet that's positively baked in cosmic and solar radiation, has toxic soil and as such toxic dust storms, no magnetosphere, 200 comet strikes per Martian year, a stunning lack of greenery and water, less gravity, and 98% carbon dioxide and other unfriendly gases. What is the appeal and urge to live there? They're all boasting the power of human adaption, but I rather think it's a suicide mission. And that's if they survive the trip. (I heard that NASA is contemplating putting them into a sort of hibernation until they reach Mars. We'll see how that goes.)
Then I hear talk of colonizing Europa, Titan, etc. Remember the question I linked you about "Is the human race worth saving?" The people in support of this stuff are just as out of it as the "Yes'ers" were in that question. They talk like planet Earth is a curse to humanity and that it's the planet's fault that humans suffer so much. Idiots!
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Honestly, while on the surface it does seem as a fool's errand, it's the next logical step - scientifically - to go to Mars and try to set up a base there. By colonizing our solar system, we will learn a lot about how it was formed, who or what (Or if...) lived here before us. There are things that sensors and satellites simply cannot tell us. I'll use wood working as an example; you and go online and buy wood blanks for woodcraft projects. You can find wood blanks for anything; from pens, to electric guitars. But only an amateur - or somebody who lacks the ability to travel - would buy such a thing online. Because while you can see a picture of it's grain, have a list of it's properties and density, you will not know how that wood will feel. And until you can touch it; there are a lot of things that you simply cannot know from a datasheet alone. The Curiosity misson spread our knowledge of Mars a lot deeper and we know more about it than before because it's "touching". But even with that in mind, it's better to feel something with your hands. That said; I don't know if there is a current project that actually has all of their bases covered. On the same coin; there isn't an actual date slated for launch, either. All there is it best guesses and estimates. There will, hopefully, be a lot learned between now and then. From a personal point of view, I would like to see Mars. But even with colonies possibly happening in my lifetime; civilians going to mars are way WAY off. Unless NASA or Mars One (Which actually work with several very knowledgeable space agencies and know more than they are letting on) can come up with something way different, that is. That said; I have issues on this planet (Not created by the planet, of course) that I need to figure out before it's a possibility either way. And while Mars is not the shiniest ball in space, the red planet has a lot to offer in knowledge which I would love to make use of.
As for Europa and Titan, those are way to far off to consider, even with Moore's Law - which I define in a far broader way than it was written - taken into account. Although they make for interesting stories for authors, roleplayers, and game and movie makers. This goes back to the aspect I mentioned before that dreaming is not always a bad thing. Without dreams or imagination, we wouldn't be talking right now, after all. That said; the idea that our problems are caused by the planet is insane... And makes me want to lash out irrationally. Without this planet, we wouldn't be here. And I do like being here, despite the flaws of life, because I get to talk to interesting people like you~.
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I well understand the scientific point of view on Mars colonization. NASA isn't planning to colonize it yet, the mission in 2030 (or later) is currently said to be a research mission. They'll be coming back to Earth. Mars One plans to live there not just as a scientific colony. To be honest, I think it is a fool's errand because from I've read up about Mars, it's not too pleasing a place to live on permanently. Research is more reasonable, but like I said before, they have to survive the trip both to and from. They may likely end up dying there over time due to Mars' conditions if they plan to permanently live there.
www.nytimes.com/2014/01/28/sci…
I heard one guy saying he wanted a pizza joint on Mars in the future.
Even people who live in harshest conditions here on Earth need water and other Earth elements to survive. I found it hilariously ironic that they're planning to use Earth's soil to possibly combat Mars' toxic soil. I think there's an obvious reason why Mars isn't supporting life right now and it takes no genius to figure out why.
When and if the whole thing goes bust up there if they make it, I will thinking "I called it." It's not going to happen right away, but the effects of Mars will eventually get to them.
Very true that dreaming isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I have high skepticism of Mars colonization and vast space exploration. Yes, we're a curious species and want to know as much we can (for whatever reason we're trying to do so), but whatever we find has no meaning other than what we give it.
I view space exploration as trying to find reason from the reasonless. You find out all this stuff, rise to fame and glory, and then you pass away. Woohoo?
The majority of life's sufferings are caused by our fellow humans so even if we get to other planets and live there, it will more than likely be a repeat of the same........
I mean, I know them going to Mars will be a huge thing with people, but if it's not going to end corruption/poverty, I'm not that excited about it. It's just more eye candy and boasting rights while everyone ignores/denies the underlying problems.
I hate that humans are this stupidly materialistic and self-absorbed. We think our material accomplishments will make the forces of the universe and nature spare us and that it makes us the species above all nature.
I'm done ranting.....for now.....
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There are far to many points of agreement I have to address them each individually. I'd sound like I was groveling or trying to win favor. So I'll shorten it to a rather large blanket agreement. I guess the flaw in my argument - which I still agree with at it's core - is I answered the question in a ideal situation. Almost a "This is how I would do it" situation. And we've already determined that I don't have the power to do it at all. So that's the flaw in my argument. XD.
Did ranting make you feel better?
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Like I mentioned before, I can understand the scientific drive to manually research Mars, but I fail to see how humans can permanently reside there. I hear people talking about humans living there to prevent overpopulation, to escape the end of the world, etc. (There's an end to every world so they're only fooling themselves.) I mean there's all manner of delusional stuff I see when people talk of space travel and colonization. "We can stop the heat death of the universe!" "We can make another universe!", "We'll make our species immortal!", etc, etc. It's so ridiculous, but I guess it feels good to pretend like that. Some of them even think that the universe is Earth. I watched a video about the universe ending and some folks said that we'd survive it because we'd have left Earth by that point. Um, no. You're far too narrow minded about this. When the universe goes, so do we and everything and every other species in it.
There's also these to consider which could happen at any given moment: www.cracked.com/article_19117_…
(Speaking of Cracked.com, how did you like the other article? Not necessarily their language, but the content.)
I feel better for the moment at least. 
(I'm calling it a night. I'll get to your other posts tomorrow. Good night!)
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Maybe not soon, but I expect we will be able to live on any of the solid-bodied planets and moons in our solar system. In the end though, there's no amount of work they do that will prevent anything, especially the end of the universe. XD, wtf? That's just laughable to me.
A couple of those things would be awesome ways to "go", y'know? I mean, in all honesty. You can't stop it, so if you're going to die, wouldn't you pick the most awesome way to die ever? XD. Maybe I'm weird.
(I love cracked, language included. I myself have been known to be a bit fowl-tongued when necessary or for humor. I'm just usually too "polite" to subject people I don't know personally to it unless they expect it or know how I mean it.)
Good~.
(No problem~)
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Once again, it's all hopeful conjecture that may or may not happen. Maybe I'm short-sighted, but I can't see how life can sustain itself on any planet and Moon in the Solar System that isn't Earth. I believe life isn't supported on those planets and moons for rather obvious reasons. Look at most of the planets and Moons in our Solar System. They're barren and "dead" unlike Earth. They seem to overestimate humanity and underestimate how much a part of Earth's natural system we are.
But yes, they are rather delusional about stopping the end of the universe. XD Makes me sick how ridiculously self-important humanity is.
I understand where you're coming from and the ways to "go" listed seem rather quick and instant. Especially that False Vacuum Collapse one. Those definitely aren't the run of the mill ways to die.
(Me, I was raised in a well-mannered home growing up so seeing overkill foul language makes me sort of squeamish. XD I do use a few select words if I'm angry enough, but that's rare.)
I need to learn to accept that this is just how humanity is and won't be changing. Any tips on how to go about it?
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I'm not sure not having the ability to see a hundred plus years in the future is shortsighted, per say, as even the greatest minds in history haven't been able to, with the exception of possibly Tesla, but he was more brilliant than even the most brilliant in a lot of ways. That's not to say that you aren't brilliant. To be lesser than Tesla, in a lot of ways is a bit of a "Join the club" moment. XD. That said, you're right that most people do overestimate humanity and underestimate how much a part of the Earth we are. It's sad because while the solar system is amazing, this is our FIRST home. And nobody really seems to notice her... Even eco-maniacs and other types of nature conservationists don't really care about the Earth. Not in the abstract sense, at least. What they care about is a clean place to live for themselves; a personal habitat... Which isn't the same thing at all. To truly care about the Earth, you have to care about her FOR her. And for all of the things that live upon her. If you care for her for selfish reasons, then it's not really caring for her, is it? I wish more people saw this...
(I was too, and I try my best to not swear in front of my parents (Even though they've never must had an issue swearing in front of me, XD), but there are times when one of them goes on a rant about something I've done or what ever that I defend myself with my full vocabulary. Though I've fairly certain the WORST I've said in front of them is "Pissed" or possibly "Bullshit". None of the big four-lettered ones have I uttered in front of them.)
Smile and nod. You can't change most of them. And those that will change will change by an example you lead. The rest are just the way they are for the rest of their lives and it's best to just let them be and allow them to drown in their own ignorant cesspools. And while that happens, the ones you've touched by example will lead on. Mahatma Gandhi. Martin Luther King. Jesus Christ. The list, in all truth, is quite long of people who've lead by example and changed people. And even as a person who doesn't identify as a Christian, I would be a fool, and a liar to not mention Christ on the list of examples I gave. But that doesn't mean you need to be a BIG name to make changes like they did. If you change one person... You will be remembered by that person, and a handful of others they tell. Everybody has a list of people who have changed their eyes. My list has names like Steve Johns, the photographer that first inspired me to pick up a camera. Scatman John, who inspires me to live well, for a greater good, and to leave a message for those willing to listen, but most importantly; to be myself because there's nothing that I cannot do because of flaws I may have and maybe my flaws are my greatest gift. Nikola Telsa inspired me to change the world in tangible ways if I can, and to do it in ways that benefit everybody, not just the elite... but also to be forever careful of what I make and to never let it fall into corrupt hands. Theres probably a dozen other names - some known in history, others not - but I've gotten off the point you asked about; Essentially; be yourself. Somebody will find that you are somebody worth listening to and will listen. The rest; don't matter. And letting them drag you down will only weaken your own resolve.
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I'm no Tesla, but I thank you kindly for the compliment! I admit in hindsight it's rather silly to predict what will happen 100+ years or so from now, but I recall hearing about amazing predictions made before our time that never came true. Some of it did come true, the things that were plausible did. I also know that people once said "We'll never be able to fly." and "High speed trains would kill everyone in them." All this hype and pomp about technological advancement and human growth I take with several grains of salt. That human over-exaggeration I think will be lessened or maybe even squashed if space colonization ends up killing them all. None of the planets and/or moons they're fascinated about living on has everything that humanity needs to survive on for long. I'm not saying that they'll die immediately on arrival, but I think in time, the effects will get to them. And the real ironic thing is that they constantly need materials from Earth to sustain themselves. That there in of itself is a hint (at least to me) that space colonization is a fool's errand.
I do wholeheartedly agree with you that we need to truly take care of Earth. However, I believe ultimately the Earth takes care of herself. We can try and help, but the parent always knows things that the children don't.
(XD Wow. Me and my mom hardly ever swear or cuss, but if you make us made enough we will. We're both pretty laid back and easygoing folks. Us blowing up over anything is rare. Even me and my mom lock horns, we never got that bad to the point of a swearstorm. XD)
Very beautifully said and very true! Thanks! Honestly, I do my best to ignore it all, but it's hard especially when it riles me up. It's hard but I try.
(And I'm turning in for the night. I'll answer the other posts a little later.)
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It's kinda interesting that in order to go to those places we need to bring bits from the Earth at all. XD, Though I think the ultimate endgame is to either terraform the planets/moons or just build giant domed cities; both of which have been explored in science fiction which has an interesting habit of becoming science fact at some point down the line. I agree that the Earth ultimately takes care of herself, but we could less our impact on her. She will heal, absolutely, but she wouldn't have to if we didn't damage her in the first place (Even if it's barely the equivalent of a scrape). Or rather, she would have less to heal. There are lots of things that ultimately cause damage and we aren't the only things. I guess what I mean is we could make it easier. And in return; our lives would be better. Part of taking care of her, I believe , is taking care of ourselves. Not for the sake of one, but for the sake of all. Does that makes sense?
(I'm actually really laid back most of the time, but I've had anger problems most of my life. And mom just has a lot of unresolved problems from her childhood and lets it dictate her mood. If shes in a sour mood, we all know it, and it almost always puts me in a shoot-first-ask-questions-later mood.)
Thanks~. It can be very difficult. And while you ignore it, you need to remember not to bottle it up. Vent. Rant. Break something. I won't judge you on how (As long as you aren't hurting things), just get it out. Anger is an acid that does more damage to the vessle in which it is held, than to anything onto which it is poured.
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Very ironic isn't it?
A lot of stuff didn't become science fact though. (For example, they're trying to make programmable matter and even the creators are doubting its plausibility.) To be perfectly honest, I can rather see domed cities more likely to happen than terraforming an entire planet, but didn't we previously discuss the dangers of domed cities being that they're a breeding ground for super bugs and microbes? Besides that, people are worried about overpopulation and whatnot, I can't see it boding well for a population dwelling in a bubble. Do we really think living organisms can survive for long in a bubble? What is the fascination of domed cities? Think about it, nowhere to go for your whole life and hope the population won't blossom too much. This stuff is good? People are looking forward to that? I see human regression in the future. There are studies out saying that the human race has gotten dumber. I do believe in devolution..... But you know what, every species comes to an oblivious end eventually and I've always felt that we'll wipe ourselves out in someway. Perhaps space exploration and colonization is it...... I mean I'm pretty sure every species that went extinct before us was continuing its thing thinking it's all good until BOOM, it collapsed in on itself doing what they do naturally. I should quit fussing and let nature take its course.
Regarding poor Earth, it makes perfect sense about everything you said. Yes indeed, we should definitely try to lessen our impact by taking care of ourselves, but at this point it seems futile......
(I'm laid back too, but perhaps a bit too laid back. But I've never had anger problems, but I can hold onto things for a long time. My mom has anger problems, but she can control hers. But if she's angry enough at the right person.......watch out. She'll flip. The dynamic between me and my mom is much different though. Her logic and mine don't always click when it comes particular things -nothing serious just tiny quirks- I just sigh and do whatever she wants the way she wants it. She'll sigh and do what I want the way I want. But all in all, we have a very good and close relationship.)
You're welcome. No kidding. However, that's my problem. I absorb and bottle it up. Though I won't break anything or hurt anyone though (though I may say I want to punch them in the face with common sense. XD), I will write a ranting journal about whatever it is that set me off. But yes, anger and stress and very hard on the body and mind. And it's painful that our fellow species seem ridiculously adept at making life even more stressful. That's why I hate the idea of humans continuing onward.
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Okay, so not everything has yet... but a lot has; all it's taken is time. Jules Verne talked about submarines before anybody else did. Now there are almost as many submarines in the water as there are boats (Depending on where you are, at least, this isn't a global figure). He also talked about airships and wireless electricity and electric weapons (Like coin guns and tasers). Airships have come and gone (Though are coming back), wireless electricity is a possible thing, and the US military (ugh...) just installed a coil gun on one of their aircraft carriers as a long range defense weapon. I do think that programable matter can be achieved because it has been done is limited ways just not in any way that is currently useful. I see domed cities being the logical first method, but Terraforming is not impossible; especially with Mars. Still, your argument against it I can do nothing but agree with. At the same time, I have no doubts that the people living there...will be the rich. And we, the middle to lower class, will be left here. Honestly? I'm in favor of them getting off my planet; they aren't doing me any favors so they can back off and let me enjoy the third rock with my fellow 99%ers.
Sadly, I can't disagree...
(I have a blind rage that scares even me... That's why I try very hard to keep a leash on it. And while I've never hurt a living creature, I have killed many walls, doors, and at least one refrigerator... Not my proudest moments, but they could have been worse. This is why you shouldn't bottle things up. And why I shouldn't, too, for that matter.)
As long as you get it out, that's what matter. Stress kills, and it kills painfully; slowly changing you into somebody you aren't and ripping your life apart. Avoid it if ever possible.
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I understand that despite the odds the impossible became possible, but I suppose my beef with all of this is practicality and self-absorption. Woohoo, we've made science fiction come to life, but we're still making life miserable because of our knack for stupidity, violence, and greed. I'm just sick of people acting like we're the crown jewel of the universe because we have great and useful technology. Vanity. I loathe vanity. You know what technology means when you die? Squat. The more technology that's created, the more idiotic people become with it. And we mostly use our tools for irresponsible/stupid/violent things anyway. Technology evolves in leaps and bounds and we devolve as it progresses. (If we merge with it (if it's possible), it will just be stupid humans in a robot body or computer.) As we devolve, our putrid behavior gets worse. We "can't" live without it. It's pathetic. But it's the way the world is now and I just have to grit and bear it. Even if the elite fry up there on Mars, it won't help the fact that the 99%ers back on Earth are mostly idiotic too. GAH! Ah well. It's not like I can stop them or change my existence at will. I just hate how humans have messed everything up and have the nerve to grandstand about their "greatness".
(I figured out my 'problems': Existential angst, misanthropy, and world weariness.)
To be honest, the question is: will Earth shake off the fleas before humans make their grandiose plans to continue their idiocies?
(Yes, you're right. I can safely say that I haven't taken out my bottled up frustrations on things or people, but keeping it in is not healthy in any way. Why don't you try to writing down your anger on paper and then ripping it up? It will literally be like throwing those negative feelings away.)
Yes indeed, but the problem is that it comes back. How do I stop being so darn concerned and angry at the world/humanity? I can't change anything and they won't change. I try and try to ignore it all, but something triggers a response. >.>
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Again, I can't disagree with you. And I can only offer solace in that I am a Maker who creates technology for a reason... Not for the sake of.
(Those are understandable problems... I'm not sure how I can help, XD)
Whose to say. We will most likely be long gone before either happens. XD
(That's a good idea, but the problem is that when I say a blind rage, I'm not being metaphorical. When I hit that breaking point, I black out for 5-15 seconds. And it hits me without warning, usually. So I avoid harsh conflict as much as I can. This year was particularly stressful and rough and I have two holes to patch in the walls, and a door to fix or replace. That's more damage than in the previous 4 years. In my defense; if people around me would not push me to that point, I'm confident that I would be able to keep those chains tight...)
It always will come back. And I don't know how to stop it... I think it's just something that we need to learn how to deal with and accept. It's easier sometimes than others.
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Well, I wish there were more people in the world like you.
(I can't say I want those problems to be fixed. XD But to be honest, I heard that pessimistic and depressed people have a more accurate view of reality. Whether or not it's true, I think that all of the anti-depressant medicines are a ploy to get everyone thinking like the average flock.)
XD It could be. There are times when I believe (and sometimes hope) that it could happen in my lifetime. Extinction will come for humanity one day and honestly, no one can say when.
(I know what you meant. My mom tells me that she does the same when she's really, REALLY upset, but that rarely happens. I suppose that's the case because our living situation is 99% tranquil and calm. My best advice for you is to move out on your own for the sake of your sanity and health if/when the opportunity presents itself. In the meantime, try ignoring them and focusing on what you want may work, but it will take time. Maybe even try that trick I told you about if ignoring them doesn't work out so well. When I'm angry at the world, I grab my Super Smash Bros. Melee game and pretend the characters are the idiots I encountered. XD Or I listen to a soothing song(s) that I like.)
Yeah, there's sadly no other way to go about this. It's just how humans are. It's just sad that individually humans are generally okay, but in a group we're retards.
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