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# Statistics
Favourites: 4; Deviations: 13; Watchers: 35
Watching: 32; Pageviews: 3526; Comments Made: 45; Friends: 32
# About me
Add me at my FB account:www.facebook.com/amaya.ume?refβ¦
Credit:
--zerochan.net
--rightful owner
# Comments
Comments: 36
Editorgirl0705 [2011-12-27 19:29:16 +0000 UTC]
Thnx for watching me!! I'll watch you back too!
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EccentricRaven [2011-12-22 12:35:32 +0000 UTC]
Please remove those stolen artworks. They are not yours. Editing them does not make them yours. Stealing artworks and editing them will make you look like a fool. Just because they're posted on Zerochan doesn't mean the original artist allows you to take their hard works, edit them, and claim them as yours. Please take them down before it's too late. Otherwise there will be consequences.
Taking artworks and editing them is considered stolen art. And stealing art is something Deviantart members cannot tolerate, and you'll be getting yourself banned if you continue doing such acts. Read the rules before you post things that are not your own.
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AliceTribe In reply to EccentricRaven [2011-12-22 14:53:38 +0000 UTC]
*coughs a little*
Sorry to say this but ,, there are millions of people out there who can't draw like you . So we are just counting on other people's work to edit . Besides , if they can post it on websites , it means we can take it .. unless they placed their copyrights there .. what you posted above there was wrong and hurting . If everyone is using the pictures , why don't you go and tell everyone of them? Your words are hurting my friend here ..
We never steal their arts , we are not even claiming those arts as ours , we just edited them , we never say it was ours .
So please mind your words over there for everybody who see this are furious .
Thank You .
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EccentricRaven In reply to AliceTribe [2011-12-22 16:54:44 +0000 UTC]
There's a thing called starting out and practicing. Not everyone is born an artist, even some of the good artists started out very late or with very bad art, even drawings of stickmen.
Who says everything can be taken if they're found on the website? Was it a rule or just something people follow because others do it too? Art sites like Deviantart and Pixiv are meant for people to show off their creations and gain feedback. Not for people to take them and edit them to their likings without proper permission.
Of course I'm aware that my comments will stir anger in some people. But not as much as the community that does not tolerate the act of editing someone's hard work just for others to use.
Please understand that allowing your friend to post something like these will bring more trouble on herself in the future. Something that I'm trying to prevent.
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AliceTribe In reply to EccentricRaven [2011-12-23 04:55:01 +0000 UTC]
So let me ask you back , is there a rule stating we can't take pictures to edit ? Is there websites saying "Oh please don't take this picture"or"Do not take this picture to use in editing" .. until now i havent found on website that posts anime pictures but not allowing to take it to edit =w= . There is no rule stating , we can't take pictures to edit .
Thanks to your words here , you actually triggered many editors on Facebook . Unless you manage to catch all person who edits using anime pictures(which is impossible cause there are many people who uses anime pictures to edit) .. Do not hope much i will take back my words . I know you are trying to help . But we aware of our own conditions . If we were to be blocked by DA police , it is done . But until now , we havent been blocked .
And also , people who posted the pictures should know that many people will come to use it . So i think they have already expected that before they posted it . I remind you again , we never ever claimed the pictures copyright , we only EDITED it .
(No offence in those words , i am not trying to be rude.)
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AliceTribe In reply to AliceTribe [2011-12-25 07:33:06 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah one more , we won't take your edits to edit . We dun take edits FROM DA unless we are given permission. Mind that , we editors wun even think of taking edits from people who goes around giving "so called advices" which hurts people . And also if the person hates to see their drawings taken , they can choose not to post here cause there are some editors who will use them without permission(not editors like us who credits) . Why they must post in DA since they know there are people who takes and edits? I can reply back the same thing as you .Yeah , Facebook has a lot of editors like me , so if you wanna give real "advices" you are welcomed to our group in FB . We do wanna see people who blamed us and call us "art stealer"
That's all =w= . Thank you for spending your time reading what i have to say .
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Cocokun In reply to AliceTribe [2011-12-24 12:49:37 +0000 UTC]
I'm aware that sites don't tell you to not take pictures to use for editing, but let me tell you: deviantART is a place where you post your creations - photos, drawings, vectors, and many other things - not an edit of someone's work, which you know very well that it's not yours. You may show your edits on other sites, but not on art sites like here and pixiv.
And we are prepared when the pictures are uploaded to the internet, some of you will take these to edit them. So you say you can't draw, you rely on others' arts to edit because it's... art? Please explain to us how "editing" is a form of art if you upload them on art sites. Is it for fun? Is it for a serious accomplishment?
How would you feel, the artworks you pooled all your hard work into and that you felt they are good the way they are- instead only to be edited by strangers into different contrast and coloring because they feel it's better that way? Would you be fine with this? If you think it's ok, then it's ok. Good!
As long as you credit your edits, you'll be fine, but this umechan here didn't specify the source to the edits she did - [link] and [link] You'd be surprised to know that there are many people on the internet that frown upon others who don't put in specific source. And sometimes, edits too, you get what I'm saying.
Probably not relevant to the topic of now, but this person, if that was on purpose, had some of her edits ready to be sold as prints. Can I ask you, making money off something that isn't yours, is it acceptable?
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AliceTribe In reply to Cocokun [2011-12-25 07:10:28 +0000 UTC]
Ehem ehem , you may get it the wrong way . We edit not because we like to change the art of it . We edit because it gives pleasure . Ume did credit to the person right ? She wrote "to the rightful owner" because she do not know who drew it . If she knew , she will credit the person , i bet you she would .
And for your information , we NEVER take pictures from DA to edit . We take it here .[link] . This place has at least thousands of visitors everyday . And most of the people take the pictures WITHOUT even crediting the person who drew it . Ume is good for crediting although she don't know who drew it . WE EDITORS ARE NOT TO BLAMED . IT WAS THE PERSON(the one who took the real pictures) WHO POSTED THE PICTURES THERE AT THE FIRST PLACE . There are at least millions of editors out there who take pictures and edit them , I am pretty sure the one who drew it have seen their drawings edited .
If they have seen it , they should write "Please do not take my edits for it is copyrighted" .. Although DA is meant for original arts , how about you go "search" and type "edits" .. There will be 109263 of pages for you to find , try going through all of them , and you will understand the amount of persons i meant . How about you go "advice" each of them first before you come here and start saying stuff about my friend here .
If you manage to do that , come here again and tell me . I told you before , if they don't want people to take their pictures , they may have just not post it for surely someone will take it sooner or later .
I won't mind if my drawings are taken , plus i am even okay with it because someone wants what i drew .
That's all i have to say now . If you wanna argue with me , come and state out what you want . I don't mind .
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Cocokun In reply to AliceTribe [2011-12-26 10:55:49 +0000 UTC]
zerochan is not really a good site imo, since it doesn't source arts often (I have seen only few arts with sources from my experience), so taking arts from there to edit is really not advisable. That's no excuse.
Some deviantART pictures also get on zerochan too... with no source. Indeed a lot of visitors go on there, but most aren't aware about its lack of sourcing. A friend of mine's art got added on zerochan, with few changes. You know know what they did? They removed her signature and added words on it without the artist's consent. It was enough, really enough to anger the artist. That's why, taking pictures from zerochan to edit isn't a good idea.
And to the rightful owner? That's no specific sourcing. Better use saucenao.com on images you don't have source of, before uploading edits. And some other source-finding sites as well (in case for photos/misc stuff), since saucenao focuses on drawings. Excuses like "Sorry idk the source i got it from zerochan" and "I forgot the source" are a no-no. If they want to keep pride as an editor, they must have firm access to the source on the images they edit.
I didn't say anything taking arts from dA to edit, I mean why post edits in dA when it's meant to showcase your works? And anything can go past dA's radar. I'm aware there is a lot of you with edits so I'm thinking dA is being lenient, anyway. And about the artists' opinion on their drawings being taken, they often vary, so good luck picking a picture that doesn't anger the artist.
Nay, I'm interested in hearing on an editor's words. And I understand that editing arts is fun, but to some, it can be... a bit disrespectful, sometimes. But don't let it stop you anyway, since you edit pictures for fun.
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AliceTribe In reply to Cocokun [2011-12-28 06:34:05 +0000 UTC]
We people edit just for fun . So i actually dun mind where to get the picture , as long as we get the picture and we have photoshop , that's enough . WE MEANT NOTHING AND WE DON'T KNOW that is actually counted as stealing . So we did not steal , we just used it to edit . we never even claim the picture's copyright .
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iTunafishieRAWR In reply to EccentricRaven [2011-12-22 14:47:46 +0000 UTC]
Excuse me, but would you mind if I steal your time a little to read this and understand my point? Thanks.
She, or should I say, US editors didn't claim the darn ARTWORK. We only claim the editing style, not the original artwork. Did we (and by 'we', I'm speaking for all the others who have faced people like YOU accusing them as art thieves) say that "oh by the way, the character is also made by me"? NO. We DIDN'T and NEVER did that.
Then let me ask you, how come people who edit signatures, wallpapers and all that and posted them on dA aren't reported? I mean, even editing a singer's photo should be counted as art stealing then. Since we weren't the ones who took the photo but randomly found them edited them. Did the photographers allow people to edit those photos? Then please tell me, why aren't all of THEM are reported?
Plus, shouldn't rendering be counted as art-stealing? The artist put their effort into making it but we just cut it off. Also, if rendering is not a crime, then what's the use of the render? What's the point of making renders? Render's purposes are supposed to be easier for us to edit aren't they? (in my opinion). What for if we aren't allowed to edit them?
So, technically, ALL the renders, edits, signatures, wallpapers, edited IDs etc in dA should be banned, don't you think?
Thank you for your time. I hope you think about it and how it feels to be accused by someone of stealing art when there was no such intention.
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iTunafishieRAWR In reply to iTunafishieRAWR [2011-12-22 14:51:01 +0000 UTC]
Oh and by the way, please kindly explain to me the use of textures and resources like brushes and actions if it's not for editing a.k.a. in your language, 'stealing art'.
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EccentricRaven In reply to iTunafishieRAWR [2011-12-22 17:04:59 +0000 UTC]
There are holes in your points.
1) There are millions of users in this site as well as millions of stolen submissions. It is impossible for a small group of people to keep track of everything that's original or stolen. And not all the staffs have time to respond to art theft reports. So the stolen submissions keep piling up. And not everyone reads the rules. If you've never notice, thousands of users are trying hard to get rid of the increasing number art thefts.
2) Well did she directly credit the original artist? Aside in the title, I see no link back to the original, implying she took it without crediting, or crediting the site rather than the original artist. Also, she still claims the as hers, when it should be directed to the original artist, or at least state it there in the descriptions, followed by implying the edits are yours.
3) Google the definition of rendering. And then come back to me. Does it say anything about editing? or stealing for that matter? In fact, the word "render" is misused often.
4) Usage of resources like brushes, templates, textures, etc are nothing harmful. Yes they are there for the purpose of helping other artists. And yes they do come from editing other things. But not base edits or character edits. Not even fanart edits. Not when most people can recognize that it doesn't belong to the person who edited it. It does not help a person improve in art nor creativity. Instead it promotes more art theft, hence base edits in every corner. I do not consider wallpapers as originals either. Unless they're originally made. Unlike those wallpapers where characters are just copied, ripped, and pasted on an abstract background, with star brushes and snowflakes placed everywhere.
What I'm trying to do is keep your little friend here from getting in further trouble. Who knows one day the original artist will discover her art stolen and edited without her permission, lacking credits as well, regardless of language barriers. She will be in more pain than your little friend. And her fans do not like it when the person they admire is in pain.
Deviantart is a place where you post something of your OWN creation, even if most of them are fanart but at least you've drawn them yourself, even photography that you've personally taken. Or even textures or templates or brushes. This is not a place where you can post anything you find off the internet, like photobucket, nor facebook, nor livejournal.
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Zelda9710 [2011-12-22 06:37:12 +0000 UTC]
hi there ^^
I watch you
mind to watch me back? ;.;
Visit me --> [link]
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CrazeehDina [2011-12-22 05:27:27 +0000 UTC]
hello there..
arigatou for watch me..
i watch ya back..
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Glaceeon [2011-12-22 03:46:45 +0000 UTC]
Please watch me nee
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an chubby little baka lil'editor named Fanny-Chii
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