Yojimbo1989 In reply to DesHedorah [2016-12-17 13:49:10 +0000 UTC]

Nothing much, just working whilst simultaneously trying to create a Death Battle profile for Joe Yabuki

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DesHedorah In reply to Yojimbo1989 [2016-12-17 20:22:08 +0000 UTC]

Working? You mean in real life, yes?
I have heard of Yabuki a little bit from my friend. He's a boxer and is around wall level, right?

By the way, do you have a Skype, Discord or any other thing like that so we can talk easier?

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to DesHedorah [2017-01-19 23:24:44 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, real life work.
That's right, if you get the chance you should definitely read the manga "Ashita no Joe"; a masterpiece of storytelling.

Unfortunately I don't owing to tech issues, but we can still send messages 

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to Nekroz-of-Mokey [2016-03-07 02:02:41 +0000 UTC]

I honestly can't remember posting on that TBH, what did I say? I usually only try to point out just how BS a lot of Death Battle's research and to tell people to think for themselves

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Crash-the-Megaraptor In reply to Yojimbo1989 [2016-10-25 11:39:58 +0000 UTC]

This is coming from the guy who keeps claiming SA are biased towards Superman despite the fact that Wiz and Boomstick literally said that they like Goku more than Superman.

The only proof that you gave that they were biased towards Superman (which they admitted they weren't) was because in "Iron Man vs Lex Luthor" they said "Superman is one of the strongest characters in fictional history" and according to you, that's "proof" if their bias. But it isn't because...

1. Superman IS one of the strongest characters in fictional history.
2. Even if he isn't, giving you the benefit of the doubt, you completely missed the point that they said that to big Lex Luthor up, to make him look really impressive.

So, yeah, they're not biased towards Superman, they hate him. Your "proof" is non-existant.

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to Crash-the-Megaraptor [2016-11-11 12:03:58 +0000 UTC]

There's also the fact that their entire argument is a NLF but whatever

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Crash-the-Megaraptor In reply to Yojimbo1989 [2016-11-11 12:05:15 +0000 UTC]

No idea what NLF means, but it clearly doesn't help prove your case. Bigging Lex Luthor up to make him look impressive proves nothing, and you know it.

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to Crash-the-Megaraptor [2016-11-11 16:24:16 +0000 UTC]

"No idea what NLF means, but it clearly doesn't help prove your case. " you do realize that your statement is a contradiction? How can you possibly claim that it doesn't help to prove my case when you don't even know what it is? But for what it's worth allow me to educate you

NLF stands for "No limits fallacy" this is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

Examples include the statement in another of Death Battle's many screw ups "Bowser vs Ganondorf" namely that Ganon cannot be killed by anything other than holy weapons, unless you are prepared to accept that a full power strike from the likes of Superman (Pre-Crisis), Thor (Rune King) or Goku (SSJG) would not be capable of killing Ganondorf then it is a NLF

Another example is Itachi's statement from Naruto saying that nobody without a Mangekyo Sharingan can defeat him thereby assuming he can beat everyone in all fiction purely because they don't have Mangekyo Sharingans

And of course Superman's ability to absorb solar radiation with no upwards limit, which is complete and total BS since so much contradicts that. 

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Crash-the-Megaraptor In reply to Yojimbo1989 [2016-11-11 17:10:07 +0000 UTC]

The reason it doesn't prove your case is because you said that Wiz and Boomstick were Superman fanboys because they said he was one of the strongest fictional characters in media...in "Iron Man vs Lex Luthor". Which is frankly pathetic and, in your own words, contradicts what they have said on two occasions that they hate Superman.

As I have said, the reason they said that was to big Lex Luthor up. What kind of an introduction would it be for Lex Luthor if he simply had to fight some random so-and-so? Exactly. Therefore, your claim that they are Superman fanboys is not only invalid, but wrong.

Also, NLF means "No Longer Friends", as a Google search showed that as the only result. So don't go calling me out for stuff I didn't know and couldn't have known. And besides, Ganondorf wasn't fighting Goku, Thor or Superman, was he? He was fighting Bowser.

You keep claiming they're biased or that they've screwed up, but you fail so badly at actually providing concrete evidence, and are forced to make stuff up. Like claiming they're Superman fanboys because they said he was very strong, which again was to big Lex Luthor up, and even though they've STATED they don't like him.

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to Crash-the-Megaraptor [2016-11-11 20:06:58 +0000 UTC]

Well it's just one of many things, and as I've said no, he isn't even one of the top 50 strongest characters in DC, in all of fiction he probably would be lucky to be in the top 500. Other things include claiming he could lift infinity, claiming again that he has no limits and again just taking several of his feats out of context. And before you start saying "you keep saying that they're biased and that they take feats out of context without providing concrete evidence" please read to the end of this, as I'll address that I promise

They could have said anything from "Superman is the original superhero, founding member of the Justice League, he can destroy planets, fly FTL etc." claiming that he's one of the most powerful characters in all of fiction is completely ludicrous. 

It's quite a common acronym for those who participate in vs debates, but maybe I expected too much. The point with Ganondorf vs Bowser is that they claimed that Bowser wouldn't be able to harm Ganon because he doesn't use holy weapons, however as I've said unless you believe he would be able to tank a blow from Goku, Thor or Superman at full power then that whole argument is BS.

As I recall I already provided an extensive list as to why Screwattack was biased and why GvS was ridiculous, I provided scans and calculations and sources to try to explain myself and the only thing I got from you was and I quote

"Wrong, wrong and STILL wrong. There's no point even trying to argue with you anymore. You are THE most butthurt Goku fanboy I've ever seen....simply because you keep saying "No, Superman did not do this" when he clearly did. Seeing you try to invalidate them is quite pathetic, even by Goku fanboy standards."

Here's a link to that site just in case you try to say I'm making this up

comments.deviantart.com/1/5433…

So here's a bit of an idea for you how about explaining why I'm a butthurt fanboy and why what I've provided is made up fanboyism. Or better still, how about explaining why what I provided beforehand is BS, so either come up with something new or stop wasting my time.

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Crash-the-Megaraptor In reply to Yojimbo1989 [2016-11-11 20:35:45 +0000 UTC]

Hey, you're the one who keeps saying stuff like "Goku's feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman's feats" which is automatic fanboyism in my book. You only need to add one >, don't you? I don't care whether it's right or wrong, just write "Goku's feats > Superman's feats". Have you ever wondered why nobody....virtually nobody in the DB fandom....can take you even the slightest bit seriously? I mean, don't get me wrong, I can actually understand your arguments, but you're terrible at getting them across.

Yes, you wrote an "entire argument" stating that SA was biased, and it was purely the fact that "they said Superman was strong in Lex Luthor's introduction". Which, again, is pathetic and wrong. As I have explained to you before, it is to big up Lex Luthor, make HIM look impressive. And to many people, Superman IS one of the strongest characters in fictional media because he is well known as being such.

So, answer me this....how does bigging up Lex Luthor prove that they're biased towards Superman? When they've outright admitted they like Goku more than Superman....no, when they've outright admitted they HATE Superman? The correct answer is that it doesn't, because they aren't. If they were truly biased, as you keep insisting without proof, Goku would have won because they like him more.

I'm sorry, but I cannot take any of your claims seriously when your only proof that SA were biased towards Superman, a character they've admitted to hating, is essentially "because I say so!!" Albeit, it's hard to take your claims seriously when you keep using multiple > signs for no reason and you keep arguing with multiple other users, who have countered all your claims far better than I could have ever done...y'know, people who are actually knowledgeable on the subject. Not to mention you keep debunking ALL of Superman's feats just to suit your purpose but don't do the same for Goku. If anything, you're the biased one, not SA...because, again, they've admitted they don't like Superman.

I am not going to look at your stupid link until you stop your fanboy-equse actions and provide me with proof...actual proof, not guesswork, that SA really are biased towards Superman. I've already countered your claim about bigging up Lex Luthor, so that doesn't count...and neither does the comment in Deadpool vs Deathstroke, because that was clearly a joke. Also, you can't simply say "They're just saying that they're not biased" as you did before because it works both ways...for all I know, YOU'RE just saying they are biased. And frankly, I'd rather believe a group of people who put some effort into their work and address their fans (and make the effort to make not one but TWO lengthy descriptions as to why they came to their conclusion) than someone who has spent his entire time on DA complaining about that battle.

But, of course, you can't do that, so why do I even bother? So I'll just say this instead....just let it go. What's done is done.

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to Crash-the-Megaraptor [2016-11-12 01:35:30 +0000 UTC]

First of all multiple > is not fanboyism it's a fact multi galaxy busting is far, far above solar system busting around about 3.14x10^{42} times greater to be honest, that number written out in full is

3,143,170,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 

so I think multiple > were completely and totally justified. Plus the only people who don't take me seriously are complete and total trolls/hypocrites/haters.

And in case you weren't paying attention, them claiming that Superman is one of the most powerful characters in all of fiction is just one part of it, I've provided scans that debunk their absolutely absurd claim of Superman being limitless. Plus Superman is not one of the most powerful beings in fictional media, countless characters count defeat Superman in an instant in his verse alone: Nekron (who actually did turn Superman into a black lantern, effectively the same as killing him), Imperiex Prime, Lucifer, The Spectre, Zatanna, Yuga Khan, Kishmet, The Anti-Monitor, The Presence, The Primal Monitor, Mandrakk, Krona and Trigon would be able to kill Superman with ease without even trying (to name a few). Outside of DC it becomes even more laughable, countless Marvel characters, any Briah and Atziluth user from Kami Sama Series, archetypes and Outer Gods from Cthulhu Mythos, Chaos Gods from Warhammer 40,000, Crimson Lords from Shakugan no Shana, Jin Arizuka, Odin and Nagisa Suzushiro from Fortissimo, Light Hawk Wings users from Tenchi Muyo!, many characters from Demonbane, many characters from Shin Megami Tensei.

They say the like Goku more, which means absolutely nothing and I have already explained as to why they are biased towards Superman, you are just blatantly refusing to acknowledge anything I've said.

You seem to keep bringing up even the pettiest of things to make me seem like the one in the wrong (multiple >s for instance), however, if you want to play that game let's look at you shall we and some of the examples of what you consider worthy in a debate:

YOU: And it's blatantly obvious that you're butthurt that Goku lost, to a being that was capable of beating him. Chad admitted he hated Superman, several times, it's even shown in the rematch. The only biased person here is you. You are blind to reality, wake up and smell the roses. Stay mad, little boy.

Ad Hominem, meaning argument against the man and not the point. A tactic used by only the most pathetic of individuals who A) Have no intelligence and B) cannot win an argument. A common tactic used whenever they come across something that they cannot logically debunk, which is to insult the other person

YOU: Wrong. They severely BUFFED Goku to give him any chance. They admitted to doing as such. Frankly, I don't know how, or why, you're still desperately trying to prove them wrong.

DRAGOREX: can you please clarify how they buffed Goku for the fight?

YOU: No, because I don't work for Death Battle, and they didn't specify exactly how, they just said they did.

An argument from anecdotal evidence, as I've said before, just because they say something doesn't make it true. How about you drop taking claims from the people you want to be right and actually provide proper evidence for your point.

And the fact that you didn't even know who the Presence or even the Anti-Monitor was, which suggests either 2 things A) you actually did know who both those characters are and are deliberately denying it because you know I'm right or B) you really didn't know in which case you have summed up your entire knowledge of DC and therefore your credibility in a debate.

And need I go into your discussion with Myth-of-Legends?

Anyway I'm fed up of you, I don't know why you bothered to come back for round two after blocking me, but the fact of the matter is no, nobody has debunked what I have said and your definition of people who are actually knowledgeable on the subject would be someone like Mordecaiser 123, who is clearly the most toxic hater in all of human history. And Fastword 88 (by far the second most reasonable person who I've had a discussion about this with) hardly qualifies as a victory since every claim he made I countered and I had the final say. Also you've been telling me to move on and what's done is done, well the fact of the matter is, I have moved on, I haven't been on this site for quite some time since I've been busy doing other things. Clearly the one that hasn't moved on is you. Honestly, I couldn't care less about DB since they've proved time and time again that they are terrible at research, so much that virtually everyone who is an expert on the subject considers DB to be a joke, all I had to do was look outside this site to learn that truth. What really pisses me off though are people like you, sheep, who basically swallow all the garbage that  DB feeds them and who keep on saying "character A would win just because Screwattack says so".

So my advice to you is this: grow up and find a hobby, try skydiving, preferably without a parachute

Have a nice day XD 


 

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KillDozer246 In reply to Yojimbo1989 [2016-11-12 07:59:23 +0000 UTC]

Really, kid? Blocking me JUST because you don't have an actual answer for you? That legitimately is something a fanboy would do. Heck, it's something a troll would do. It's so sad that you've had to stoop to that level, really, isn't it? And now, I can see you as nothing more than either a fanboy OR a troll....which of course would explain all your actions.

Basically, I'll say this...if you have to resort to insulting someone, or provide outright death threats, you have no argument. You never have had an argument. Once again, as I predicted, you have failed to provide any proof whatsoever that SA are indeed biased towards Superman, other than through mere assumptions and hearsay. Certainly nothing to counter their claim that they hate Superman. It's funny, all the other DB fans on DA have countered every one of your claims left and right and yet you're still bleating on and on about it, without providing any proof of biasey. Your "proof" is perhaps they used flawed evidence, but that isn't biasey.

If you are indeed a fanboy, like I said, you really, REALLY need to let it all go. Goku vs Superman was years ago. Move on with your life, they're not going to change their mind. And if you are indeed a troll....well, the purpose of a troll is to be funny to onlookers. You were never funny...you're just pathetic.

Since you refuse to come up with a basic argument without blocking me, consider this the last contact I ever give you. Also, consider your death threat reported.

Your options - either let it go, or remain mad for the rest of your life. Your choice.

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Yojimbo1989 In reply to KillDozer246 [2016-11-12 11:06:38 +0000 UTC]

Says the guy who blocked me to begin with hypocrite

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