exotier In reply to Lulie [2016-01-08 06:56:40 +0000 UTC]

Sure, the cheaper Wacom tablets lack the touchscreen displays, but their main selling point is the ability to interface with programs like photoshop.

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Lulie In reply to exotier [2016-01-08 09:00:26 +0000 UTC]

I actually think the touchscreen is the least important thing. I wouldn't be bothered if my iPad Pro had no touch and only worked with the Pencil. 

iPads can interface with Photoshop and all desktop software, just like a Cintiq, using Astropad. But unlike a Cintiq, it's also got its own apps that are pretty good, and is portable.

... I'm going to say including the Cintiq Companion, because that's big and bulky. I don't know the advantage of a Cintiq Companion vs iPad + laptop, unless maybe you have strong preferences about screen texture and prefer Wacom.
Advantages of iPad other than portability: no parallax including at the very corners and edges (I don't know how good the parallax is for the Cintiq), no cursor so it feels more like traditional/direct drawing.

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exotier In reply to Lulie [2016-01-08 20:59:32 +0000 UTC]

Then it depends on if the user already owns an iPad. The cost of an iPad combined with the pencil costs as much as a Cintiq. Just about everyone owns a computer by default, so I wouldn't consider that as part of the additional costs.

The rest is just personal preference between portability and utility.

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Lulie In reply to exotier [2016-01-08 23:48:32 +0000 UTC]

Currently, only the iPad Pro is compatible with the Apple Pencil (not the regular iPad).

The iPad Pro + Pencil is comparable to the Wacom Cintiq Companion (a stand-alone tablet PC), not comparable to the normal Cintiq which is just a screen and can't work without hooking it up to a computer.

There is no toss-up between portability and utility when comparing to the Companion: the iPad Pro wins on both fronts.

The only time I'd recommend getting a Cintiq is:
- If your computer is a PC / runs Windows, and you use graphics software you don't want to part with.
- If you're doing professional work and need the huge Cintiq instead of something in the ~12-13" range.
- You're poor, already have an iPad, don't travel much, can't afford a tablet computer.
- Drawing texture is really important to you.

Microsoft's Surface Pro is also worth considering if you want a cheapo Windows-based tablet PC.

And there's other brands which are cheaper + good specs, like Huion. 

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exotier In reply to Lulie [2016-01-09 00:37:13 +0000 UTC]

Although the regular Cintiq is not standalone, people usually don't own iOS devices without owning a dedicated workstation computer. 
It's an excellent addition for people who already have a beefy computer for image/video-editing softwares and 3D work. Generally, software developed for mobile have significantly less tools and features. Even with higher end hardware, it's hard to find an portable setup with the processing power to handle multiple layers of 8000p X 10,000p resolutions without lag. Portability is definitely nice to have, but I'd rather not increase my chances of getting robbed by a homeless person when I'm at a park.

The iPad Pro/Pencil bundle is good for people who don't already have a decent computer. If they already own an iPad Pro, then there's no competition.

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Lulie In reply to exotier [2016-01-09 05:03:44 +0000 UTC]

Some people just have laptops. I prefer the portable MacBook Pro + iPad Pro because I travel a lot, but I recognise most people may just have a desktop (especially pre- or post-university).

There is some pretty awesome software on iPad Pro, and more is being developed, but I do agree mobile apps are not quite there yet. Though using the iPad Pro as a screen with the Astropad app means it doesn't need need to be super awesome itself -- the desktop/laptop would take the strain.

Multiple layers of that massive resolution I'm imagining is only relevant to serious professionals (and I'm guessing only a niche of those -- we'd be talking about poster-size bitmaps). It's nice but I don't think that's a common audience. Also if you're working with files that large, I'd be very surprised if they didn't want the 22 or 27 inch Cintiq (which I agree is worthwhile even if you have an iPad Pro, as a main work station tablet, for pros).

Sounds like we pretty much agree though.


Lots of people have the misconception that the iPad Pro can't connect to the computer in the same way a Cintiq can, and so assume it's bound by various constraints like no Photoshop, no large files, etc. That's when my someone-is-wrong-on-the-internet "Well, ACTUALLY..." program kicks in.

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exotier In reply to Lulie [2016-01-09 05:26:02 +0000 UTC]

Large image sizes aren't exclusively beneficial to professionals. Anti-aliasing preserves the details of downscaled high resolution images, making it look really nice. It's near impossible to replicate AA manually on lower resolution images without being a robot. 

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exotier In reply to rockstarcrossing [2016-01-02 02:31:51 +0000 UTC]

No, they just didn't give an option for Atlantis.

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rockstarcrossing In reply to exotier [2016-01-02 12:02:16 +0000 UTC]

Pfft you don't live on Atlantis. lol

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Lulie In reply to rockstarcrossing [2016-01-08 06:38:17 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, he only said that because he doesn't want you to ask about Galt's Gulch. 

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