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DarthBotto [2016-08-26 05:04:21 +0000 UTC]
I would have to disagree with the placement of Jaina at this point in the story. She is a hateful character, so I'd put her at either Chaotic Neutral or Lawful Evil. At the beginning of Reign of Chaos, she would have qualified as Lawful Good, but Garrosh has changed all that.
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Aeliren85 In reply to DarthBotto [2017-04-03 01:53:14 +0000 UTC]
Late reply, but yeah, she's been through a lot by Legion. Her father turned against her and was killed, her hopes of peace were shattered as her home was destroyed, and those responsible for treachery were thrown out of her new home only to be re accepted in it later. She's far from the inquisitive, peace loving special agent to the Kirin Tor she used to be, but I still wouldn't go as far as putting her as Lawful Evil. I still think that she averages somewhere a bit south of Good now, though.
But this chart is based on the Warcraft III to pre-Cata WoW versions of the characters, so THAT particular version of Jaina is still considered Good.
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Elvinkin66 In reply to Aeliren85 [2019-02-06 15:45:10 +0000 UTC]
She did murder a lot of Blood elves
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herrabenjamin [2016-07-04 05:01:46 +0000 UTC]
I dont agree that Edwin is evil, I would be pissed too if I made hard work to earn money and then employer refuses to pay and over that my workmen`s guild will be disbanded.
So is there reason to be rebel?
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Aeliren85 In reply to herrabenjamin [2016-07-20 05:52:15 +0000 UTC]
I agree that having all that work amount to no pay would be infuriating. However, there were different methods to achieve his ends than what he did - both King Varian and Queen Tiffin were sympathetic to the Stonemasons' Guild, they could have worked things out peacefully. The path that they ended up choosing was definitely not "Good".
Instead, they took to the streets in a bloody riot and inadvertently killed Queen Tiffin, one of their more sympathetic figures. They were kicked out of Stormwind and decided to become bandits. For the several years that they were active, they hid in the woods and stole from the populace. They chased the good people of Westfall off their lands with their Harvest Golems and took over the Brackwell Pumpkin Patch in Elwynn, collaborated with Kobold clans to keep Stormwind out of the Echo Ridge, Fargodeep, Jasperlode and Jangoload mines and the Gold Coast Quarry, worked with the Riverpaw Gnolls of the Forest's Edge and were allied with the Bloodsail Buccaneer pirates, and they later kidnapped King Varian. One of their members impersonated a member of the Stormwind Army and another worked with several dangerous criminals (including a Blackrock orc, a necromancer and an ogre, amongst others) to make a prison break. Their main plan was to rebuild an Ogre Juggernaut and destroy Stormwind with it, likely killing a large portion of its population.
The Defias had a sympathetic and tragic beginning, but they took it too far and went down the slippery slope of evil. Edwin VanCleef felt that he and his co-workers deserved their due for what they built, and they would get it by any means necessary - hence why I made him Neutral Evil.
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ArthasMenthil [2014-07-22 03:36:26 +0000 UTC]
Arthas is both Chaotic Good and Chaotic Evil
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Aeliren85 In reply to ArthasMenthil [2014-07-25 02:26:44 +0000 UTC]
Feels more like Lawful Evil to me when he becomes a Death Knight, what with the "new order that will shake the very foundations of the world" speech and all.
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blueroom789 [2014-05-23 01:52:59 +0000 UTC]
would thrall not be a chaotic neutral?
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Aeliren85 In reply to blueroom789 [2014-07-25 02:29:44 +0000 UTC]
Thrall isn't in this alignment chart, can I take a message?
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thatguy999 [2014-05-16 23:41:46 +0000 UTC]
Personally I would have switched Rexxar and Grom but that's just my opinion. You hit the nail on the head with the others in my view
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Aeliren85 In reply to thatguy999 [2014-07-25 02:28:34 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! And I put him in good because... Actually, I don't remember why I put him in good. Maybe because without the demon influences he was an OK guy, but after rethinking it through the inverse would probably make more sense.
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thatguy999 In reply to Aeliren85 [2014-07-25 02:44:12 +0000 UTC]
The main reason why I don't consider Grom good is because even without the influence of the demon blood he was an incredibly aggressive and blood thirsty warlord (even by orc standards). He gets a lot of love since he killed Mannoroth and freed the orcs from the corruption, but they seem to gloss over the fact that that it was completly his fault it happened the second time (the first one probably would have happened with or without him) and he never seemed to feel any remorse for all the innocents he and the orcs killed while under the demonic taint.
When it came to Garrosh most people were saying for years that he wasn't enough like his father, I was saying he's too much like his father, he's the loser son of a loser father. As I understand it he's helping Jr. out with his Iron Horde and their plans to enslave or commit genocide against the peoples of Azeroth and their both doing it without even a drop of demon blood.
Of course figuring out alignments is a very tricky business and it depends a lot on perspective.
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Pokingaround In reply to thatguy999 [2014-12-29 06:46:40 +0000 UTC]
True. Though honestly, it always seemed to me that Grom after he came to Azeroth was a very different person than before. 20-30 years is plenty of time to rethink your life and change, right? He was more neutral/evil when he was younger, that's clear, but I think the main version of Grom became a better person as he got older.
And from what i've seen, when the Warsong fought Cenarius, their choice boiled down to "Die at the hands of a demigod who attacked us first, or drink the demon blood and get a shot at surviving." And he seemed to take being compared to the Legion as a serious insult.
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