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Published: 2017-09-02 04:13:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 477; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 0
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i just wanted to experiment with one layer and i think these came out pretty cute, theyre all 100 points!Β1.
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also im taking customs of these for 100p each! just tell me what colors u want and what traits u want them to have uvu
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it's been 24 hours and you haven't sent payment, are you still interested?
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Yup, I'll send if it's o
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okay, just send the points and theyre yours!!!Β
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sure, dude!! just send the points and they're yours!
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sure, just send the points!
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okay, i sent them to you isntead of putting them in your donation pool if thats what you meant!
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yeah that's what i meant, thank you!
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wow, these are so cheap! can i have 2 please? :3
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sure, thanks dude !! just send the points over :3c
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DeviantArt is a cesspool of Children who can't make over a dollar and can't keep their unnecessary opinions to themselves : )))) sorry u have to deal with this birb, u don't deserve it. Ur work is quality.
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thank u 3D lmao god im So Tired
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hey sorry you got some really unecessary comments my dude :------) i cant for the life of me understand why ppl would think those comments are necessary
anyway can i have 6Β
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omg yeah dude thank you!!! just send the points : O
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sent! hope in the future you get comments from ppl that understand the basic system of selling art : Β ' Β )Β
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*spits out drink* Ok these are really cute but 100 points isn't very "cheap"
I mean I would totally buy that brown doggo if I had more than 10 points but points aren't very easy to come by cuz I'm a tiny, mediocre artist X'D
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uh.... 100 points equates to about 1 dollar, which is actually incredibly cheap for art. i personally usually price my adopts at 600 points/6 dollars. i'm sorry that you don't have the points, but your comment seemed a little rude. if you want to make points, though, i'd suggest making adopts and submitting them to popular groups?
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Heh, yeah, sorry about that. It was really late and I was a pretty rude. I tend to see points as being worth more than that simply because I don't get many of them. I put a pair of adopts up for 10 points and submitted them to like, 5 different groups and I've only sold one in a week, so I thought I overcharged >.< and I was thinking of opening commissions, and my most expensive thing would be 20 points. Is that too cheap? I'm just asking because it seems my perspective of points has been a little askew lately and I want to know what a decent price for commissions is.
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oh okay! i understand, thank you for your apology. depending on how much time you spend on them i think you should charge at least 200 points for commissions, and you should charge at least 75 points for your adoptables. i know it can be hard to wait for them to sell, but if you submit them to as many groups as i do [36, usually] they should sell faster. good luck with your adopts & have a wonderful day!
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Thanks! I'll try to work on fixing up my pricing and joining more groups.
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buddy just letting you know selling adopts for under 50 cents can't even make you minimum wage unless you can make 15+ in an hour, and even then most of us don't spend all day making every hour making adopts so if you want any kind of reasonable profit you'll price your adopts over 50 cents
if you can't afford someone's adoptable there is NO need to tell the artist you don't like their pricing, NO ONE is forcing you to buy the adoptable. you never know what someone's situation is, nor how much money they need or have. by telling the artist directly that you don't like their pricing all you're doing is trying to guilt them or saying "your art isn't worth this much", which, if someone ELSE is willing to pay that price, simply isn't true!
value of art is subjective but value of labor is not. artists should be allowed to at least make minimum wage ! otherwise you are saying someone's art isn't worth them making a living wage. please think before you leave rude comments like this
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If you understand how reasonable pricing works you wouldn't feel the need to defend someone who is against it, you would instead defend the artist who just received a completely unnecessary & unasked for comment about their pricing from a stranger who didn't plan to spend money anyways. Do you walk into grocery stores and tell them they charge too much for apples? Do you walk into local businesses and tell them to change their pricing? If not, why do you think you should get to do that to small time artists just trying to make a buck online?
While it's true not every artist can make a minimum wage on freelancing everyone has a right to try andΒ to price it as such. Freedom to free speech says you can say whatever you want, not that you can't be held accountable, disagreed with, or ignored. FaelynnAllegro expressed an opinion that 1: Didn't have a complete understanding of adoptable pricing 2: Was something the artist disagreed with, and they- birdy- responded as such. There's no law saying birdy has to be Super Duper Nice to a complete stranger whose opinion birdy literally didn't ask for
s'all im sayin my dude :v
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i know that some people won't agree with my pricing, those people aren't my target audience. it's ridiculous to keep going on and on about this. i am not making these for anyone to waltz up and take, i am making these for profit. the title "cheap" was simply in reference to my other adopts. [and it is super cheap - 1 dollar. art is not a necessity, let me remind you, it is a luxury.]Β by the way if you're not making minimum wage, you should probably raise your prices. also, i'm aware you're not trying to be an ass, but you should remember that once you share an opinion people can share their opinions in response. if you post a comment, you will get a reply. i put work into these adopts. i am the sole person in control of their pricing, and i'm sorry if one dollar is so expensive for you, but you don't need to buy these. again- they are a luxury not a necessity.
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"It's just you shouldn't be so harsh on people just for thinking differently when they didn't even purposely try to be rude or cause any harm"
except i wasn't purposely trying to be rude or cause any harm either? what you're saying is hypocritical, i wasn't trying to be rude [i've stated that many times before in this thread] and the fact that you're continually repeating this proves that you're thinking of their [unsolicited] comment, which they admitted was rude, more than my [solicited] rebuke. i'm sorry but if you'd like to share your opinions you had best be ready for the backlash those opinions may receive.
i understand where you're coming from, but continually calling me harsh for calling someone rude even when they ADMITTED they were being rude is ridiculous. you should read some of the other comments on this post also, because they have more in-depth explanations of my point.
anyways, thank you for the good luck wishes. have a wonderful day.
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yeah, Sir-enic Β really has a good point here, i was actually going to buy one of these but calling someone rude for just saying they think something is a bit overpriced for something that you admit is just a doodle is kind of a turn off. and yes, $1 for art is cheap, but im just saying if two person saw your response and commented on it, other people almost definately were/will be put off by this and for the future it'd be best to stay away from saying that kind of stuff
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if you say you were going to buy it but then defend someone unnecessarily accusing the artist of overcharging for asking for ONE DOLLAR for their work you didn't care about the artist in the first place :/
this is not a case of "both sides were wrong" like it's completely unnecessary to confront an artist out for pricing, especially in an exaggerated way like sir-enic did. why should it be birdy's problem they don't have enough points? if you can't afford it don't buy it
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And are you really trying to take that cheap of a stab at me and accuse me of not supporting the artist when I've been watching them for a good while now? Look, just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean I'm this cynical asshole that doesn't care about this artist, because I actually really like their work and, again, am still contemplating on buying #5
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If someone wants to comment on someone else's public page about a public adopt than anyone has any right to say whatever they want on it, to be blunt. And I'm not saying that its birdy's problem, that someone else is unable to buy one of their products, but turning on a possible customer and full out trying to start an argument with them is uncalled for, rude, and not sound business practice in the least.Β
I'm simply trying to say that the way birdy answered was unprofessional, inconsiderate, and unnecessary. And seeing why the op didnt even respond to my comment, I don't even see why you feel the need to butt in and be some white knight over the whole issue.
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If someone has the right to say whatever they want, then the artist has equal right to say whatever they want in response, wouldn't you say? How can you have this double standard where you let random strangers voice completely unasked for opinions but you won't let the artist respond how they see fit. You're expecting the artist to be totally polite in an exchange they literally did not solicit in the first place. Freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want, not that people have to be nice in response to what you've said or even accommodate your opinion.
Cool that you like their work and have followed them a long time but that means ultimately nothing about how you treat them as a person and I'd say expecting Birdy to be Ultra Polite to a random stranger saying "Hey you charge too much" is a funny thing to do.Β
(also birdy wasn't even rude in response so this line of logic is largely moot.)
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Since the creator is trying to sell something, they should be held at a higher standard than the buyer? In stores you never really see employees sass customers that bother them, but oh boy do customers feel free to say whatever's on their mind because the business are esentially asking for something from the customers, so they should at least be courteous. (If this doesn't really make sense I could elaborate on it more)
Honestly, how is trying to give someone advice and tips on how to market yourself not treating them as a person? I'm telling them this because I want them to do better in the future and sell more adopts, but potential customers don't like it when they're called names.
And again, I don't see why you're making such a big deal our of this and typing paragraphs when the op hasn't sent me a single letter
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hey as the OP i already said that saraza's comment was totally right, and reading over all of these comments zey are explaining it much better than i could. also, i have commented on the other threads on this image and, at least in my opinion, made my stance clear.Β
yeah, your point doesn't really make sense to me. for one, it's nonsensical considering i am simply a freelance artist, not a retail store. it is not my job to be courteous, this is just a hobby for me. anyways, i was not intending to be rude. i was simply responding to @/FaelynnAllegro 's comment in a similar tone - just look at their second comment! they even admitted they were being rude.Β
it's not the fact that you're giving me advice and tips on how to market myself, it's the fact that you're doing this without asking me first. i did not ask for your advice or your opinion, so therefore i may respond with my opinion, and saraza may respond with zers.Β a gift [though i hesitate to use that word in this situation] is not an obligation.Β
in conclusion, though i do appreciate your watching me for so long, saraza was right and has proven zemself to be a far more supportive person to me.
i'm not trying to sound rude in this message. i'm just upset that this post blew up so much. i only wanted to make some quick money and practice my lineless skills, and give people a slightly cheaper alternative to my other adopts. in fact the only thing that this, and your comments especially, have done is made me feel discouraged in my adopts. i don't mean to say this to guilt you, i'm just sharing my opinion.
with all that being said, i hope that you continue to support me in the future. have a wonderful day.
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you're completely right, taking my own opinions onto someone else's post and causing/encouraging essentially a spam is rude and hypocritical. I'm so sorry for supporting rude behavior and partaking in it on your post when you're just trying to support yourself. and please don't feel that because of this that your adopts are bad, the lineless style in this looks really good and it's exciting to see what you're going to make in the future. thank you, and you too!
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thank u saraza for commenting, i was gonna say something but really u covered it completely!!
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