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Description I am guessing dad is a war vet since the front of the marching line was reserved for “veterans for peace” I have received comments from quite a few people that find it inappropriate for parents to subject their children to protest because they believe children have no idea what is going on and what it means. So far 100% of the people that have written me about the sour taste it leaves in their mouth have no children themselves. I am of the opinion that parents teach their children about the things they believe in, like religion and their fundamental beliefs. The biggest reason people give me for it being wrong is that they believe children need to form their own beliefs. I was born Catholic and brought up Fundamentalist Christian or “Born Again”. Today I have a completely different belief system even though my mother taught me what she believed. Children are smarter then we give them credit for. I think we can all agree that they are fearful about their future and holding a sign may be one way of keeping hope. One more thing I’d like to bring up is that there are children carrying and using guns around the world to fight, kill, and die for what they are told too. If you are so worried about children, I’d start with the gun toting tots, not the sign holding ones.

Edit After posting this photo I received an email from the father in this photo and I'd like to post what he wrote to me...

I am not a war vet, my uncle was a marine & my cousin was brown water navy- both in Vietnam, the latter died there. I’ve worked with northwest veterans for peace since the elder bush's war in Iraq. I am concerned with veteran’s issues, though not a vet. Twenty-five years ago a friend, a Vietnam combat vet, convinced me not to join the army just shy of completing the enlistment process. I remain grateful to him to this day. My friends in NWVP invited me to march with them on the 19th, which is why we were where we were.

As regards my son. He was there because he asked to go with me, he wound up on my shoulders because he wanted to carry a sign & I was to help carry the NWVP banner. I had promised him that he could ride my shoulders part of the way anyway so he could see- this was the first time he had gone to an anti war march. You are absolutely correct that children are smarter than many give them credit for being. Your statement rings true; frequently those without children underestimate them the most. My 7 year old wanted to express his feelings about the war. While it is obvious that my opinions are bound to color his to some degree, he made the choices to go & to carry a sign & was profoundly moved by the experience. Please feel free to share this info as regards the photo.

WHAT: Protest marking the 3 year anniversary of the US lead Iraq invasion
WHERE: Waterfront Park in Portland, Oregon
WHEN: March 19th 2006
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Comments: 44

Galmtean384 [2016-07-10 04:59:45 +0000 UTC]

Not to hate on your opinion or anything but anything used as a weapon is used as one, war is the only path, there is no such thing as peace.

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Chrismilesprower In reply to Galmtean384 [2017-07-02 04:37:53 +0000 UTC]

It depends on how we see it I suppose. But if we start seeing each other as the same in stead of what's different. Well then who knows. 

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singinghope [2008-05-14 19:24:59 +0000 UTC]

Ridiculously awesome shot. COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOUR DESCRIPTION. YOU NAILED IT.

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digitalgrace In reply to singinghope [2008-06-01 05:50:13 +0000 UTC]

thank you


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arlincita [2007-08-23 17:35:16 +0000 UTC]

featured here: [link]

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digitalgrace In reply to arlincita [2007-09-10 22:32:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you


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Abu-Jamal [2006-07-24 20:20:40 +0000 UTC]

YES!!! Now THIS is pure happiness, because unlike in the 'Peace in my Pocket' photo, the kid KNOWS! *Does a dance*

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sydley [2006-05-29 05:08:04 +0000 UTC]

I understood war when I was younger. It is perfectly fine for the boy to be there, holding a sign. He is pro-peace. I am proud of the father for bringing his son. Many parents shield a young child’s eyes from anti-war events, thinking their child will hate the government, become some dead-beat punk that wants to burn flags. I don't think this at all. Kids understand death and that war brings un-needed death and sadness to those who are in it. Well, maybe not to that complexity, but to a degree of it.

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digitalgrace In reply to sydley [2006-05-30 01:17:25 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you 100% I also remember very vividly being very fearful of war and what was going on in the world when I was a child and that was the Vietnam War so I was very young at the time.


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whimsicalfaerie [2006-04-14 02:49:01 +0000 UTC]

i concur. war does suck

simply, yet eloquently put.

brava

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digitalgrace In reply to whimsicalfaerie [2006-04-15 05:21:16 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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Eleutera [2006-04-11 13:58:40 +0000 UTC]

With the huge amount of violence that kids get for free these days, it is important to see that parents are really trying to educate them in favor of peace... It's a important value that is going to make them (and us all) better persons, more tolerant...
It's great to see it and to feel it just by looking at your pic...


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digitalgrace In reply to Eleutera [2006-04-12 00:00:44 +0000 UTC]

Thank you... you are very right

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alessandrociccarelli [2006-04-09 10:19:36 +0000 UTC]

It's important to educate the kids to the peace.
I think they are part of the society and the TV is really worst than a demostration

Ale

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digitalgrace In reply to alessandrociccarelli [2006-04-12 00:06:52 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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MissAudreyKaye [2006-04-06 19:41:41 +0000 UTC]

No shit.

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Iyonah [2006-04-06 12:16:35 +0000 UTC]

cause i think the same what is on photo and casue photo is great as usually fav my dear

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digitalgrace In reply to Iyonah [2006-04-12 00:15:18 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Talescaper [2006-04-06 09:11:42 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree. I myself was raised as a Christian and took a completely different faith in my later years. To much discontent of my father. But there is a downside to this, as some children are not allowed to chose what they wish to do with their religion. They often stick with it because it's the only thing they know. I personally knew quite a few people who assumed a very ignorant sort of Christianity which they could not explain other then 'That's why way I was taught, that is how it was written'. So yes, I think parents should explain their believes to their children, but they should also leave them the freedom to chose as soon as it is their age to chose. As for this photo, well, they just look so happy and it is a portrait of father and son. Perhaps somewhere in the scenario of "Daddy is going to the protest tomorrow." "Can I come, daddy?" "Sure kid. Ask your mom if it's ok first though."

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digitalgrace In reply to Talescaper [2006-04-12 00:15:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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gataomaluco [2006-04-06 08:11:20 +0000 UTC]

I absolutely agree. I am european, born italian, and i love to read such words written from the other part of the ocean. Kids are smart indeed, and they can sum up later, when they're grown up, all that was taught to them. Moreover, you talked about peace. Peace is something that, imho, should be out of all the politics and religion beliefs. We, as a planet, have only peace - any other choice will bring us to some place i don't even want to see...so it's perfectly right to teach kids how peace is important.

That said, your photo is beautiful. I love their smiles. Thanks for shooting it.

E.

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digitalgrace In reply to gataomaluco [2006-04-12 00:16:00 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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sisterjanet [2006-04-06 01:56:47 +0000 UTC]

Out of idle curiosity, I've wondered sometimes about the kids who are brought up on protests like this, what peculiarities of personality and worldview that might result in. It seems like as long as the protest isn't dangerous, then it's just another way for kids and parents to spend time together with the parents hoping the kids will take after them.

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digitalgrace In reply to sisterjanet [2006-04-12 00:18:03 +0000 UTC]

I'd rather be a kid exposed to the world then one protected from it...


Thank you

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atom7 [2006-04-06 01:16:35 +0000 UTC]

Great photo and well said. How can teaching a child that war is bad be wrong, whatever your views on the reason for it are?

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digitalgrace In reply to atom7 [2006-04-12 00:18:39 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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atom7 [2006-04-06 01:16:31 +0000 UTC]

Great photo and well said. How can teaching a child that war is bad be wrong, whatever your views on the reason for it are?

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emptyspaced [2006-04-05 22:44:43 +0000 UTC]

it says alot about our society when we argue about the children who accompany their parents to protests and then we turn around and say it's perfectly normal for a child to be playing with guns.
food for thought.

nice job, i enjoy the quality of your photos from an artistic point of view and from a political.

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digitalgrace In reply to emptyspaced [2006-04-12 00:19:30 +0000 UTC]

Thank you...

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SquishyKitten [2006-04-05 22:43:50 +0000 UTC]

I analyzed an article yesterday about a man (I can't remember the name) who joined the terrorists. He was a Caucasian male from one of the most liberal areas of California. His parents did not discipline him at all, letting him drop out of school, take money, even leave the country on his own. It was not that they were trashy or anything, though they seem very stupid, but they were so "open minded" about their son having freedom to express himself and make his own choices and what not that they would have been better off letting him drink from the bottles under the sink. I’m not saying that being open minded is bad, but there is a limit. They didn't even say a harsh word when he told them that he supported the 9/11 attacks. The only way for children to develop any sense of anything is for someone to show them. One is better off instilling values of peace in one’s children at an early age than to wait and hope that the child turns out alright.
And by the way, there is no reason to be insulting the photographer for capturing a touch of hope for the future on a bit of film. He did not say, "Hey, I need you small children to hold up anti-war signs." These people are protesting for a good cause whether anyone else likes it or not. He just took a picture. (Please do not take this as anything against the troops. There are hundreds of thousands of people who support the troops without supporting the war. Yes, it can be done.) The only way children are going to grow up right is if there is somebody there to guide them. The parents who bring their children to these rallies and protests not only want their children to grow up well, but they want their children to have the chance to grow up. Anyone who can't at least understand why a parent would encourage his or her child to interact with his or her surroundings and community, whether or not they agree with what that involves, is very ignorant. I regret to say this, but even the terrorists have a right to teach their children about their beliefs. The children may not be learning the best values, but as parent and child, it is a necessary part of life. It is not the parent-child involvement that is wrong, but rather what is being taught. So if you have a problem with the war or anything else, hold your own little protest thingy, take it up with the source, and show your children your beliefs. But don't knock others for acting on the natural instinct to raise their children.
This rant is brought to you by hyperactivity. Hyperactivity: How can sugar help you today?

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digitalgrace In reply to SquishyKitten [2006-05-03 22:34:30 +0000 UTC]

i agree... if we do not mold our children someone else will

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WARagainstWARS In reply to SquishyKitten [2006-04-06 00:05:46 +0000 UTC]

"protest thingy"..

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SquishyKitten In reply to WARagainstWARS [2006-04-06 00:30:38 +0000 UTC]

Hehe. Indeed.

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WARagainstWARS In reply to SquishyKitten [2006-04-06 00:58:15 +0000 UTC]

Indeed??..*raises eyebrow*.. or PEEPEE??

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SleeplessGamerChick [2006-04-05 22:32:09 +0000 UTC]

"If you are so worried about children, I’d start with the gun toting tots, not the sign holding ones." love that quote from you! that is so so true too. great photo, the dad and girl seem real happy to be there!

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digitalgrace In reply to SleeplessGamerChick [2006-04-12 00:19:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Zatona [2006-04-05 22:16:16 +0000 UTC]

hummm... Maybe the problem with kids in strike is that they are use to drive a message that they are not yet wise enough to have understand and make the choice by themself to support.

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digitalgrace In reply to Zatona [2006-04-05 22:33:13 +0000 UTC]

if it is indeed a problem what harm is it causing?

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Zatona In reply to digitalgrace [2006-04-05 22:56:45 +0000 UTC]

I think kid drives an "easy" image of sympathy to adult.
In a way it is cheating the audience of the message using the kid in a kind of communication battle by saying "look even the kid agree our ideas".

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digitalgrace In reply to Zatona [2006-04-05 22:58:26 +0000 UTC]

it may well be easy, but i am asking you about the harm...

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Zatona In reply to digitalgrace [2006-04-05 23:02:34 +0000 UTC]

Well it is an ethical harm.

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digitalgrace In reply to Zatona [2006-04-05 23:07:28 +0000 UTC]

it may be an ethical debate and the subject of strong opinions, but these are all relative, not harmful...

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Zatona In reply to digitalgrace [2006-04-05 23:21:54 +0000 UTC]

arrrf........ if only all the mobs were to defend love and peace

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digitalgrace In reply to Zatona [2006-04-05 23:31:35 +0000 UTC]

i wonder why they don't?


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