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Description An alternate flag design for Slovakia where I wanted to avoid the traditional coat of arms with it's monarchist/Hungarian connotations. The gold eagle is the national animal (and thus represented on the coat of arms), the rose was chosen because of it's association with parts of the country (the city of PreΕ‘ov and the Ε½ilina region) and because it is rather unique by European standards (excluding Lancashire).
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Rodegas [2013-09-17 13:21:46 +0000 UTC]

Why are colored like that, blue red white?

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FederalRepublic In reply to Rodegas [2013-09-17 15:35:23 +0000 UTC]

Those are the traditional "Slavic" colours and these colours are also used on the current flag, albeit in a different in a different order, which has no genuine reason.

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Rodegas In reply to FederalRepublic [2013-09-17 15:49:33 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I know that they are traditional Slavic colours. I was just curious about the order of them.
Anyway, I prefer double cross and 3 hills, Putting an erb of some city on flag would be not fair to others cities.

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FederalRepublic In reply to Rodegas [2013-09-17 17:08:34 +0000 UTC]

Well, originally I wanted to get rid of the double cross/Cross of Lorraine because of its connection with Hungary. And I didn't want to use just a black eagle because they are so generic. So I chose the rose.

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Rodegas In reply to FederalRepublic [2013-09-17 18:06:17 +0000 UTC]

Well many countries use it, in Slovakia It was introduced by Constantine and Methodius, who brought christianity to Slavic empire of Great Moravia in the 9th century. They come from Bizantia.

In Hungary in the Middle Ages used the Byzantine double cross as a sign of both Upper Danubian territory of Hungary (originally the Principality of Nitra), and secondly - as the oldest known Hungarian emblem - as a symbol of the Kingdom (not the simbol of the king as person).

About the Rose as symbol, since city Ruzomberok use it I can't imagine what would pompous city like Bratislava would doΒ 

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SoaringAven [2013-07-21 08:38:06 +0000 UTC]

Good job When I first saw it I thought it had something to do with the Rozuberk family (very important here, famous for their red rose).

It's not easy making a CoAs for a country with so little independent history so well done

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fennomanic [2013-07-21 08:01:30 +0000 UTC]

The rose violates the rule of tincture and the eagle is too similar to the one of Prussia. But nice idea nonetheless.

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SoaringAven In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 08:35:55 +0000 UTC]

Pfffff, rule of tincture :S

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fennomanic In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 09:20:25 +0000 UTC]

It has really good reason to be here

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varpho In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-23 00:50:54 +0000 UTC]

i agree. rule of tincture is important, even today.

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SoaringAven In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 09:23:32 +0000 UTC]

Sometimes it helps make stuff "look better" but mostly it's just in the way. I am not a fan of it.

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fennomanic In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 09:30:28 +0000 UTC]

It exists because in the medieval era when heraldry was playing more bigger role, the knights were armored from toes to head no-one could recognize who is who. They started to paint images on their shield and that way coats of arms were born. Since they were invented for being kind of business card of the person, they had to be seen from a very long distance. Solution for the problem was that they started using lighter colours on more darker ones and vice versa. And that way, THE ULTIMATE SUPER RULE OF TINCTURE was born.

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SoaringAven In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 10:00:36 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, interesting (as if I hadn't known ) so when you ride around in your armour today you need to be seen from afar too!?! See!?!?! It's OBSOLETE today!

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Leoninia In reply to SoaringAven [2013-09-24 00:38:32 +0000 UTC]

Actually, the rule of tincture never was so modern. When did occur the last time that you saw a traffic sign or a car plate violating the principles of the rule? Why do you use a dark pen or pencil to draw on a white sheet? Even the t-shirts designs use to follow the basics of the so-called rule.

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SoaringAven In reply to Leoninia [2013-09-24 11:11:14 +0000 UTC]

I think that's just heraldo-paranoya

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Leoninia In reply to SoaringAven [2013-09-24 11:53:00 +0000 UTC]

It isn't. The rule is just obvious.

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SoaringAven In reply to Leoninia [2013-09-24 12:13:06 +0000 UTC]

Pfffffffffff

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fennomanic In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 10:26:00 +0000 UTC]

It's not heraldry if it violates the rules! ARGH!

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SoaringAven In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 11:09:38 +0000 UTC]

. . . now you sound German - *German accent* "Zis violates ze regulations!!!!!!!!"

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fennomanic In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 11:19:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm totally not a heraldry-nazi

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SoaringAven In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 12:45:00 +0000 UTC]

JA ja . . .Β 

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fennomanic In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 12:50:23 +0000 UTC]



Oops, I mean

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SoaringAven In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 13:21:45 +0000 UTC]

O_O


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CoralArts In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 14:09:00 +0000 UTC]

Uh, I don't like these ruleΒ either... I understand why they are important, but sometimes they just feel like...Β irritating. Well, maybe I just have to try to go with them. :/

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SoaringAven In reply to CoralArts [2013-07-21 14:14:05 +0000 UTC]

I think they are just outdated :S

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CoralArts In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 14:17:37 +0000 UTC]

Maybe... But I think these rules will never be updated,Β the old traditional way is used from generation to generation, endlessly. So, let's go with what we have.

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SoaringAven In reply to CoralArts [2013-07-21 14:22:03 +0000 UTC]

Bah, conservatives never survive :S

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CoralArts In reply to SoaringAven [2013-07-21 14:24:18 +0000 UTC]

We will see...

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SoaringAven In reply to CoralArts [2013-07-21 14:28:28 +0000 UTC]

They always have

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FederalRepublic In reply to fennomanic [2013-07-21 09:50:40 +0000 UTC]

Well, the rose is a proper (a heraldic element occuring in that colour in nature) which means that it isn't affected by the first rule of tincture. Also this is a modern flag with a CoA created from scratch and strictly speaking the OTL CoA of Slovakia doesn't follow the rules of tincture to a T as well (blue hills in front of a red background...).

And well, naturally the eagle looks similiar to Prussia. Because it is a typical Continental European/German-style heraldic gold eagle Except it is actually brown like they are in nature and not the stylised black in order to seperate it from Prussia, Germany, Austria and Albania.

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varpho In reply to FederalRepublic [2013-07-23 00:50:03 +0000 UTC]

so, if the rose is blazoned proper, it could be made white as well, right? 'cause red is not the only natural colour for a rose...

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FederalRepublic In reply to varpho [2013-07-23 09:20:38 +0000 UTC]

Correct!

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fennomanic In reply to FederalRepublic [2013-07-21 10:26:38 +0000 UTC]

Needs more green if it's proper IMO

And I meant the silver background.

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SoaringAven In reply to FederalRepublic [2013-07-21 10:01:48 +0000 UTC]

Also true, when something is painted in it's true colours, it is exempt from the rule

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