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Description Mild Last Guardian spoilers?

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"They're wrong about Nopal," said Holly. "She feels things. She understands."

Artemis knelt down. "I know. I taught her something last week. Watch."

He placed his hand on the glass, tapping the fingers in sequence slowly, building up a rhythm. "It is an exercise developed by Cuba's Dr. Parnassus. He uses it to generate a response from infants, even chimpanzees."

Artemis continued to tap, and slowly Nopal responded, raising her hand laboriously to Artemis's, slapping the glass clumsily in an attempt to copy his rhythm.

"There, you see?" said Artemis. "Intelligence."

Holly bumped him gently, shoulder to shoulder, which was her version of a hug. "I knew your brains would eventually come in handy."
-Excerpt from The Last Guardian, by Eoin Colfer

EDIT: Lightened Nopal's skin tone a bit, better or worse?

Drew this back in June or July after I read the first chapter for The Last Guardian. I wasn't happy with the digital coloring and it could still use some work, but what the hey.

Why hasn't anyone else drawn Nopal yet?! Nopal is awesome!

I wanted to draw Holly shoulder-bumping Artemis, but as the drawing got more detailed, it strayed farther and farther away from that premise. >.< It's still kind of there, but it looks weird unless you're looking for it.

It occurs to me that I don't remember what Nopal/Opal's skin tone is. In fact she probably couldn't have done what she did in book 4 with that color...Can anyone check this for me? I don't own any of them books except the Files and that's not helpful...
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Flurrin In reply to ??? [2016-03-12 01:50:03 +0000 UTC]

....I drew it? It's right there? Holly is on the left, my dude.

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Slimersonington In reply to Flurrin [2016-03-12 16:04:41 +0000 UTC]

Yes I know, Shes right there! I see her, Either its the dark glass effect that makes Holly black, But If you don't mind this is most likely what she looks likeΒ pre13.deviantart.net/ecc4/th/p…
(I really hope this doesn't count as spam or anything, also no im not being racist, I'm just following what it says in Book 1 about how Holly looks)

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Flurrin In reply to Slimersonington [2016-03-12 23:43:44 +0000 UTC]

Nut brown skin can be interpreted however dark you want. I'm not going to lighten her skin, she's beautiful the way I drew her.

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Slimersonington In reply to Flurrin [2016-03-13 04:12:10 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I get it and all but is it the tinted glass that makes her look that way then?

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rodentfanatic [2013-06-18 15:28:17 +0000 UTC]

I haven't read this one yet (still on the 4th) but omg I love how you did Holly, that's exactly how she's described in the books---crew cut and brown skin! So many artists give her long hair and pale skin and that makes me sad :<

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Flurrin In reply to rodentfanatic [2013-06-18 16:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Yeah--it's implied occasionally that she has slightly longer hair, a bit more like in the comics, but she is a soldier, after all, and when the key risk of your job is getting captured, you don't want to give people something to grab onto! Plus, I think women with short hair are beautiful and I like seeing them in popular media.
I think I did mess up which of her and Artemis's eyes are human and fairy, though. OTL Oh, well.
Thank you very much!!

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Jie-n [2013-03-15 23:38:45 +0000 UTC]

All the A/H feels!

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Flurrin In reply to Jie-n [2013-03-16 04:44:17 +0000 UTC]

Yayyy

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EstrangeloEdessa [2012-11-26 03:19:09 +0000 UTC]

Oh, this is beautiful. I love the way you show her slim little hand appearing in the picture. I'm going to have to follow your example and draw a bunch of Nopal now.

And I always imagined pixies as having kinda porcelain skin... although now you mention it, I'm not sure. Did Colfer say that all fairies have brown skin, or just elves? Sprites have green skin, so I guess pixies can have their own color too... (You can tell I haven't read the series in ages.)

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Flurrin In reply to EstrangeloEdessa [2012-11-26 03:47:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Oh, please do!

xD I think it changed per book, anyway.

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Slinky1996 [2012-10-27 21:44:35 +0000 UTC]

Nice

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Flurrin In reply to Slinky1996 [2012-10-27 22:18:03 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

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Slinky1996 In reply to Flurrin [2012-10-27 22:44:31 +0000 UTC]

Welcome

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Tsiirae [2012-10-26 21:04:08 +0000 UTC]

Aw you included Artemis's swapped fingers! So many people forget that detail, it's kind of depressing D: (Spoken like a true perfectionist, sorry ._. ) I also really like how you drew Holly's uniform~

I think Opal's/Nopal's skin is fairer, because it mentions multiple times that she has porcelain skin, though I can't recall exactly where...at least once each in TOD and TTP. As for mistaking Nopal's hand for Holly's, it was dark, and I imagine the glow of the magical hand prints was doing funny things to her colour perception, lol.

Only thing I would say about this is that Holly and Artemis appear to be around the same size, where Artemis is actually a little under twice her height (which would be why he was kneeling beside her while she stood). The height would be the same-ish in this scene, but his head would certainly be larger c:
(And I think you've got the eyes backwards - they switched left eyes, not right, haha ><)

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-10-26 22:51:20 +0000 UTC]

I know, right? It must be because the entire time I was drawing it, my brain was screaming "Incorrect!" at me xD I nearly erased it and drew a normal hand more than once.

Porcelain may refer to the texture rather than the color, it often does in that context. The guidebooks insist that elves have brown skin.
Haha, that's true. I just need to read them all again...

Man, I was afraid his head was too big when I was drawing it...I should just scale down Holly's head, hers is too large anyway.
Aw, man! That was the one detail I couldn't find online Dx Ah, well.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-10-27 02:09:14 +0000 UTC]

Oh man, don't even get me started. I can barely look at anything I draw for more than a few minutes after I finish it, because I keep seeing little things I need to fix.

I don't even know, it just seems that Colfer was all about the colours and porcelain usually means very pale. And it could only be elves that have brown skin - I mean, sprites are green, so. Plus, the guidebook also insists that every single fairy is three feet tall or under, when Holly is exactly three feet tall and is considered short. And then there are trolls...but hey, picture it how you feel like it, it's the one thing about Opal's appearance that wasn't specified.

I've read the first six at least ten times, the seventh probably four or five, and the eighth twice, so I kind of memorize a lot more than I need to ._.

Well it's not just his head, so that could use a little reworking in comparison to his shoulders. But Holly would be a little tiny bit more than half his size, so her shoulders would be the same width as shoulder to about mid-chest for Artemis c:

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-10-27 04:12:33 +0000 UTC]

Seriously! Every single stage of this drawing gave me something new to gripe about xD

But Holly is an elf.
Yeah, the guidebook is inconsistent. Its version of pixies doesn't match the description in Opal Deception at all.

Hahaha, you make me proud.

Thank you very much for all these notes, they're very helpful!

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Koimeteria In reply to Flurrin [2015-01-13 13:24:39 +0000 UTC]

Can I butt in (two years later) to point out that her last name is Japanese, and in the audiobooks, she has a strong Asian accent, so I'm going to say that she looks Asian, probably Japanese. I really like the picture, and am ashamed that I also forgot about the switched fingers. The eyes are cool, so everyone remembers that, but the fingers, not so much.

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Flurrin In reply to Koimeteria [2015-01-13 15:32:25 +0000 UTC]

She has a strong Chinese accent in the audiobooks, actually, but I don't like that reader anyway, or the way he apparently decided "Smart" should be associated with "Chinese"...?
In book 4--I think, The Lost Colony?--she pretends to be the daughter of an Italian man, so I'm not sure how that would work. I'm all for the racially diverse fairies (They are, at the very least, dark-skinned), but it's canon that Holly must resemble her face a LITTLE from a distance, because otherwise Artemis' final plot from the Last Guardian wouldn't have worked? But yeah I don't even know, they're not described often. It's possibly all the fairies have hint of all different cultures in them.

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Koimeteria In reply to Flurrin [2015-01-14 14:32:02 +0000 UTC]

I'm not good at differentiating between most Asian accents, but I think you're right. The issue is that her last name is definitely Japanese. (Japan is my area of study) I'm gonna have to point out that the last book was full of plot holes and general mistakes, so I don't think that things like Holly resembling Opal should be taken at face value (no pun intended). Considering the society in a lot of Asian countries takes education very seriously, I'm not really surprised or offended about Asian=smart in this context. I suppose we'll never know for sure. XP Pity he had to stop writing them, the last book ended on a dreadful note. Mm, I'm not sure about that. The fairies live under different parts of the world, and used to interact with humans, so there might be factions of fairies that are more like, say the French, or the Australians, than Fairy-kind as a whole.Β  She mesmered the Italian lady, so it probably doesn't matter what ethnicity she is. Oh wait, she also mesmered that famous guy, that's what you're talking about. Honestly I don't even know. I swear I heard somewhere that Colfer doesn't even go back and re-read his books, which is why there are huge contiguity errors. XD I feel like such a dork, seriously contemplating this sort of stuff. Yay for adulthood!

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Flurrin In reply to Koimeteria [2015-01-15 15:15:15 +0000 UTC]

Koboi is not a Japanese name or a Japanese word, as far as I found. The closest I found to a Japanese result for it in a search was as their pronunciation of "cowboy" (which is also wrong, the correct Romanization is "kaubΓ΄i"). I did find several Indonesian results. It's spelled correctly for a Japanese-sounding word, but it isn't one.
No, the assumption that a smart person must be Asian is EXTREMELY racist. The assumption comes from the fact that Chinese as a language is wired for much easier use of numbers, so native speakers often have less trouble with math. But assuming Chinese PEOPLE are "wired for math" is offensive and harmful.
Even though he was Mesmerized, he had to have staff around, and she didn't have enough power to fool them. However she could have made him tell everyone he'd adopted her. I don't remember.

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Koimeteria In reply to Flurrin [2015-01-15 17:55:27 +0000 UTC]

I suppose Indonesian could work, although the way family names are done in Japanese that could easily be a name. Whether it's a real family name or not, using the phonetics of kanji, one could do it. Also, Opal's family name could have existed in an ancient time in Japan before the fairies fully separated. What were the meanings you found in Indonesian? Hooooold it, I never said anyone should assume all Asians are geniuses, but because of the societal emphasis on education, the use of an Asian character as a genius really shouldn't be -offensive- just perhaps a bit cliched. Though if we are talking steriotypes, as far as I recall, all the Russian characters were in the mob. Also, don't forget that Artemis is Irish, and Foaly is who knows what, so only 1/3 of the main smarties were (possibly) Asian. XD I didn't know that about the Chinese language, could you explain the number thing in more detail? I am NOT a number person. XD

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Flurrin In reply to Koimeteria [2015-01-16 14:57:09 +0000 UTC]

I just think it's a made up name, like all the other ancient fairy names, and meant to sound scientific. We writers love a good-sounding name.
Racial cliches ARE racist, though, and need to be stopped. Colfer is not the greatest at avoiding them, that's one of the weak points of his books.
The author is Irish so it's safe to assume when reading through that all the characters are from Ireland until otherwise indicated, not just Artemis.
Not well, because I don't speak Chinese but: In English, the rules for our names for numbers are completely erratic. One, seven, thirteen and twenty-five are all words that have nothing to do with each other. However, in Chinese, all numbers (at least up to ten) have only 1 syllable each, and they're written with the same amount of strokes per letter as each number has (from what I gather). Therefore it's easier to WORK with these numbers instead of English ones to do math.

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Koimeteria In reply to Flurrin [2015-01-16 16:48:54 +0000 UTC]

XD Y'know you're probably right, and we're just over thinking it. You're an author too? Racism is only about inherit things, not cultural facts that seem cliche. Like, all South Americans are really good at soccer- VS. the best soccer player in most of these movies is from South America. (I don't know a lot about soccer, so I just picked a place)
This is what you're talking about, right? (www.alfabetos.net/japanese/jap… )
I study Japanese, and while the kanji often don't mean the same thing, Japan and China use the same characters for numbers, and actually the strokes are only equal to the numbers' values for "1" "2" and "3". "5" looks like it matches, but because of an annoying thing called "stroke order" it's only four.

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Flurrin In reply to Koimeteria [2015-01-16 19:31:31 +0000 UTC]

Saying I'm an author would imply I'm published, so no. I'm a writer.
No, racial stereotypes are a FORM of racism and yes they are harmful. See, for your argument to hold, it would be good to find a real example to uphold it with?
No. I was talking about Chinese numbers. I don't know anything about Japanese numbers.

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Koimeteria In reply to Flurrin [2015-01-17 04:32:32 +0000 UTC]

Haha, point taken. Future author then. Looks like we're going to agree to disagree on this one. Right, but Chinese and Japanese numbers are the same characters. The Japanese got their writing system from the Chinese, and while the characters have different meanings in the two countries, the numbers are the same for both. Just Google it.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-10-27 14:59:24 +0000 UTC]

Yes, Holly is an elf, so she would have brown skin. But there seem to be a variety of skin tones in the fairy world, much there are in ours, so Opal could very well be pale, or dark skinned. Who knows.
The whole series is inconsistent, lol. I mean I love the books to death, but it would be nice if there weren't two different stories of how Foaly met Caballine, or even if Caballine, Lili, and the amorphobots' names were spelled the same way every time...there's so much more, but oh well.

Thank you very much, though others would call it obsessive... but hey, Harry Potter fans get away with it!

You're welcome~ I spend far too much time focusing on proportions, I could write a whole book with the little tips and tricks I use...and another book on how these tricks apply to the AF characters, becuause I've been drawing them all since I was nine years old.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-10-28 05:29:52 +0000 UTC]

That's the thing I dislike about books...and you know if they ever make a movie about it, people will complain because their headcanon will be different from what comes onscreen.

I've read certain books at least fifteen times. If they're good, then it's fine to read them again, you know? xD

Aw, that's so sweet. I wish I'd been into Artemis Fowl when I was younger. I only just got into them this year, and I'm eighteen now, kind of too old to feel like I fit in among much of the fanbase, you know? But I love the books all the same.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-10-28 14:00:06 +0000 UTC]

Well there's the headcanon thing, but there's also the moviemakers taking stupid steps with their "creative freedom"...*cough*buttercup wasn't yellow*cough*. Either way, I really hope the Artemis Fowl books are never actually turned into movies. From what I've heard of the plan for the first movie, it was going to be the first two books combined, and have a different ending. I mean. How do you even.

Of course it is! Especially if you're too cheap to buy all the books that seem mildly interesting and can't always find stuff at the library. There are plenty of books/series I'd love to re-read or even finish reading, but I don't own them, so...

Haha, it's funny, when my mom brought home the first book I saw the word "Artemis" and thought oh great, this is going to be a book about greek gods. Ew.
I kind of hated anything to do with history.
But then after avoiding it for months I finally read it and loved it to bits. And made my mom get me the next four ASAP, lol.
One of the main reasons I love these books, though, is that you're never too old for them. They kind of mature with the audience, too, so from book one to book eight things get a little more serious, a little darker. It's easier to feel like you fit in when you don't feel like you're reading little kids' books.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-10-30 02:43:32 +0000 UTC]

What buttercup?
Well, if Artemis Fowl was turned into a movie, it would immediately be complained about because it would be a copy of Die Hard, or so I've heard, but for kids. Automatically there would be a smaller demographic because the premise would be "with fairies", and fifty percent of the internet would 'boycott' it because they are idiots. (Forgive me if I go off on a rant, I REALLY dislike those automatic-movie-hating crowds, and all types of such prejudice.)
So naturally the plot WOULD have to be altered in order to keep people from guessing how it turns out before they even go. I think that kind of story might work in a non-linear style, however, but the director would have to be very clever.

Oh, indeed. I get all my books for a dollar on my library's book table. I'd love to support the authors with some real money but I do have an uncertain future to think about.

Haha, I know. Mtyhology makes me uncomfortable, and even with the suburban fantasy element, I can't stand Percy Jackson. No offense to its fans, of course, but I feel the series is very over-rated and isn't half as witty and clever--not to mention brilliant--as Artemis.
Yes! Exactly. I cringe a bit at the potty humor sometimes, but I really don't mind it overall, and I catch something new--a genius bonus, usually--every time I pick them up again.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-10-31 00:20:23 +0000 UTC]

Buttercup from the Hunger Games. He was a yellow cat in the books, hence the name, and the movie makers made him black and white.

Ah, well. I still hope they never make them...the casting, for the most part, would probably only end in disappointment. Colfer makes it particularly easy to visualize his characters, so if the actors aren't exactly fitting...

It's the same with pretty much anything we use for entertainment, these days. Hardly anyone can say they don't know someone who downloads movies/music for free, or even does it themselves.

I haven't read the Percy Jackson series yet, but it seems to me that it is incredibly difficult to incorporate pieces of ancient history into a modern setting. The only problem I have with Artemis Fowl is that a lot of the science actually makes no sense, even though it may sound good.
Ah, potty humour is potty humour, you'll find it everywhere. It's kind of used mostly to show how immature Mulch is, though, so I don't mind it. Then again, I do have a thirteen year old brother who giggles every time he farts, so maybe I've been desensitized :/

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-10-31 03:06:11 +0000 UTC]

Oh, please. Don't get uptight over something like that! There aren't any yellow cats, anyway, they're all either orange or tawny if you're lucky.
The Hunger Games film was a fantastic adaptation, on par with Watership Down's movie. The only things I took issue with were things that were in the books anyway.
Come back to me if they change a character's gender to make them sexier. Because, yes, that happens. Even if the movie's based on real life.

It depends on who's involved. They can do anything with makeup nowadays, it's just important that they get good actors. Nowadays acting as all about beautiful people. That's what's going on with Twilight, anyway.

This generation's been raised to believe entertainment should be free. I don't know how, but they have.

It's just...really bland and cliche. The kid is the Chosen One, he follows a prophecy, he has dreams about what the villain's doing for no reason other than the author's convenience, he has a love interest and a token-minor best friend who is funny, blah blah blah.
Well, take Legend of Korra. That's a masterpiece and there's potty humor in nearly every episode.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-10-31 21:22:16 +0000 UTC]

I know, I know. I just think it's incredibly silly that they didn't even make an effort to find something closer.
I liked the movie, it was fairly close to the book. I don't see how they could have done a better job, seeing as it would be impossible to keep everything from the book and put it into a PG 13 movie. I do feel, however, that the relationships between the characters weren't fully developed. It's like all the emotions were dulled down a bit. Maybe it would have been better if Jennifer Lawrence had done some sort of voiceover for Katniss's thoughts, because the story is entirely her point of view :/

Oh, Hollywood. Sacrificing so much for your beauty standards.

I honestly don't know. The artists have to make a living somehow, and they get a tiny percentage of the revenue to begin with. I don't think a lot of people will get this through their minds, though, until so many people stop paying that the artists just pack up shop.

Erk, I can see how that would be annoying. I watched the Lightning Thief, and everybody keeps telling me that the book is so much better, but the overall plot just seemed uninteresting.

I haven't had the chance to watch Korra yet. I saw the first half of the first episode, and it looked pretty good. I did like A:TLA, though, so I'm assuming the sequel series would be great too.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-02 15:15:43 +0000 UTC]

A voiceover would have made it cheesy for me--and uncomfortably familiar, since that's what Bella Swan does. The whole key to direction is to be able to get emotion across without saying "That makes me feel angry!"

You know, they should poll people on the character designs. Wouldn't that be cool? It's like "All right, here's make-up option A, B, and C! Text us with your vote!"

Kids just swap ipod contents in two seconds. Music used to be practically hard to come by, now it's everywhere.

Okay, yeah, as much as I hate the books, the movie is much, much worse. It's sexualized to death and a lot of it--especially the Hydra fight scene--is just plain stupid. They do leave out the prophecy, though, don't they? That part and the visuals, at least, are good.

Korra's fantastic. Everyone needs to see it.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-02 21:56:56 +0000 UTC]

I suppose it would. I don't think it was actually possible make an accurate movie out of those books, so whatever. I will excuse the cat and the fact that they got a tall, blonde, freckled, green eyed actress to play tiny, olive skinned, black haired Katniss xD

That would be amazing. We need to start some kind of petition, I think.

There's also e-books to think about. Books used to be precious, because they had to be written by hand, and only very few people could read or write. Now you just download a bunch of them onto a Kobo and off you go. I prefer to have something with pages, anyway.

I don't think they left out the prophecy, it just wasn't a massive part of the story. The visuals were good, though.

As I've heard. I'll have to find a way to watch it - no cable, no Netflix, slow internet...things just get in the way :/

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-06 15:28:04 +0000 UTC]

I think that girl did a fantastic job as Katniss and I don't think it was a case of a Race Lift at all xD I didn't remember her height being described in the books...

It would be awesome. That way the people would get what they want, but the director could keep his vision, too.

I hate reading off a screen, I don't know how people do it--especially on those useless ones that don't even light up, just like a gameboy advance. I can read a book in one day but it takes me months to read a long fanfiction.

Technically the book takes place when the boy is twelve. In the movie, he's sixteen, right? The prophecy takes place when he's sixteen, so they screwed setting that up. xD They kind of doomed their chances for a sequel right off the bat.
You're right, though, if I recall correctly, the prophecy WASN'T important, because trying to fight fate got everyone filling out their roles perfectly and then it turned out Percy wasn't in it at all.
Yeah, they were. I liked the camp. Looked a bit too much like Narnia, though, haha.

Aww :c

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-06 21:43:27 +0000 UTC]

I think she did a pretty good job, but some of her scenes were a little...awkward? I don't know how else to put it, lol. Like the way things came out of her mouth was sometimes a little off. She talks about how small she is a few times...the only one I can clearly call to mind is when she's getting a good look at Foxface and describes her as "tiny, even smaller than I am".

Everybody needs to have a say when the thing has a large following. If it's something barely anybody has heard of, then the director could probably have full creative control, but when it's got tons of fans one guy calling the shots is likely to piss a whole bunch of people off.

Oh god, I know. My grandparents have Kobos, and trying to read anything off them is painful. It's like reading a book in the dark.

I can't really compare the two because I haven't read the books xD
All I can say is that the movie was extremely anticlimactic, for whatever reason, and I can remember sitting in the theatre with my friends (it was some big party or something, I don't even know why) and thinking "...this is what all the fuss is about?"
Pfft, it did too xD I liked the fight scene at the end with all the water, that was pretty well done.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-09 16:31:08 +0000 UTC]

I always thought the book was written like that, though, so it didn't bother me. All those sentence fragments... xD

Well, you have to understand, in movie-making, it's almost NEVER just one guy calling the shots. The team has to work together as a whole, and with some things, the director's just a consultant xD And sometimes the author/original creator will be there, too, on certain days. They offer advice, but most of them (Suzanne Collins aside, she wrote for TV before she wrote novels) have no clue how their text would translate into a proper film, so they're less helpful than you'd think.

xD What is the point of those?!!

I'll just say both the film and the source material were disappointing.
"It's an electric marching baton...."
xD I don't even remember the fight scene at the end. I hope it was better than the one with the Hydra.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-09 20:45:11 +0000 UTC]

It was, but even so...oh well. It was still pretty good, just not exactly deserving of all the hype. The first trailer they released made it seem a lot better than it was :/

That is very true. In any case, they really need to get some long time, hard core fans on those teams. Even when a member of the crew says they're a huge fan, it's about a one hundred to one chance they actually read the books before getting the job. Fans have actually had time to form a clear vision of what the characters, settings and effects should look like, whereas the people who only just signed on have a bit of an idea and a little guidance from the author.

I don't even know. To carry a mini library in your bag?

I figured xD The fight scene's effects were great, though the lines were a little mediocre. You know, two teenage guys fighting on top of a bunch of buildings. Except with super powers.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-11 17:38:02 +0000 UTC]

It's a teen fad, of course it's going to be hyped.

Yeah. I've heard stories of major fans who got promoted into actually playing characters in the franchises--like Luna Lovegood or Guybrush Threepwood. (Heheh. Those rhyme.) Both of those actors were knee-deep in the lore way before the casting call went out.
I don't know about other roles in film-making, though...I bet there's more stories available on TV tropes, they have a page for that.

Who reads more than one book at once??

Everyone raves that it's super funny, but I don't think it made me so much as crack a smile.
Yeah, and don't even try to disguise it, they ARE superpowers. xD There's really not much that's original about the franchise.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-11 17:48:34 +0000 UTC]

So very true. It got quite irritating when everyone at my school had their hair in "Katniss" braids (the side braid thing they used in the movie) and were doing the whole team Peeta/Gale thing.

That would be really cool, although they would still have to follow the script and what the crew's done with the sets/costumes/effects.
I suppose we would have to Google that.

I don't even know. I don't unless I was reading something and misplaced the book, so had to pick up another one. I guess it's so you can take up less space with a bunch of books...but really I prefer to cover my walls with book shelves, so they're no good to me.

Yeah, same here. Though for a while all anyone (girls, mind you, since the guys really couldn't care less) talked about in regards to the movie was how attractive Logan Lerman was. Unfortunately I found that a little scarring because he looked like this really creepy guy in my class ._.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-14 20:05:00 +0000 UTC]

Blah, I don't get 'shipping...and the romance in The Hunger Games is the one thing I really dislike. For a while I couldn't even remember which guy she ended up with because it doesn't MATTER, really. They're both basically the same guy and "the one that she has the most affection for changes based on the paragraph you're reading", as one guy so accurately puts it.

No need . Oh, add Christopher Lee as Saruman to the list. He actually met Tolkien!
Turns out most big-time directors were fans of, like, every movie ever. xD It's harder with books, you see. Comic books I can imagine.
ADV films was apparently founded by anime fans who promoted themselves. xD That's awesome.

The only reason I bring more than one book somewhere is if I plan to lend it to someone, but you can't exactly do that, can you? Are they like music files? xD

At least the friends of mine who were fangirls didn't do that, hahahaa...

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-14 21:53:30 +0000 UTC]

I get shipping, I do - heck, I do it myself, though not obsessively. The Hunger Games love triangle is pretty terrible, though. They aren't really the same person...Peeta's kind of the charming "nice guy" and Gale's sort of a gung-ho, trigger happy BAMF. I guess it's all used to show that she's really just a teenage girl in over her head, but her constant moaning does get quite unbearable.

Oh, awesome, thanks~
Well I guess they would have to be, lol. And yeah - they're in the industry, so they know about most movies and basically have to love them (publicly, at least) in order to avoid offending people they may have to work with xD But with books it's much easier to just pass over their existence.

I guess it's cheaper, because you don't have to pay for the materials used to create a book :/

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-16 19:03:35 +0000 UTC]

I do, too, but it's mostly crackshipping. I can't get myself to seriously 'ship things. xD
And it translates to fans moaning in real life xD

Yup C:
Mm, that's not what I meant--comic books are like storyboards, it's much easier to visualize them moving in your head. With books, a LOT more is left up to your imagination--like how the character moves. Even a detailed description of a character's face can bring up different mental images for different people, you know?

Someone recently predicted that paper is going to start being more expensive and people who work at paper factories are going to start losing their jobs.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-16 21:00:43 +0000 UTC]

Crackshipping can be pretty amusing...or scarring, depending on who you leave it to. I tend to go with what's closest to canon, lol.
Oh, always. No fandom can escape the legions of crazy fangirls (or fanboys, but fangirls are usually more vocal about shipping xD )

Oh, lol, excuse my brain. But yeah, I see what you mean. Sometimes I think it would be better to be like my brother, who couldn't picture a character from a book to save his life. That way you don't get an idea in your mind that gets crushed by the movie. But then it also takes the majority of the fun out of reading, so there is no win-win situation.

That makes sense, considering the problems with deforestation and such. Paper products can only be recycled a certain number of times, and then...

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-22 15:57:10 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, how true that is. Yeah, I don't normally support couples that don't get together in the show.
Fanboys are more vocal about the 'shipping in Twilight. I've heard several of them make good points on Team Jacob.

Haha, that's like me when I read. I can't picture faces or places. The only books I could EVER do it correctly with were the Redwall series. Maybe that's why I'm impartial about movie adaptations...
Yes, exactly.

Mmhmm.

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-23 00:09:53 +0000 UTC]

Well it's not necessarily the ones who actually get together, sometimes just the ones who come the closest to it by the end of the series. Which makes watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer really aggravating. She had...oh, what, three guys? One of whom was part of a secret military operation and the other two were vampires with souls. Oh dear, the moaning.
Hm...I seem to recall at least one guy I know talking about the Team Edward/Jacob debate. Does it say something about the whole situation that he's gay?

Oh, that sucks D: I can get a pretty clear image of what's being described in books...although it gets really irritating once you realize you've been picturing something wrong, haha.

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-26 02:14:27 +0000 UTC]

xD I never saw Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I've considered it more than once, but, eh.
Hahaha, the guy I know isn't. He was just reviewing the movie (he's got one of those online shows).

Hahah! Yeah! I remember reading the Silverwing series, which is about bats...I kept picturing scenes during the day. xD

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Tsiirae In reply to Flurrin [2012-11-28 21:18:46 +0000 UTC]

It's pretty good, though the beginning is a lot better than the last few seasons. I've got the first six on DVD, but I have yet to see the seventh and apparently the ending is terrible. Oh well.
Lol, I see xD

I actually did that a lot with Artemis Fowl, haha. And then it would say something about it being really early in the morning and I would have to stop and go "...wait. What? ....oh."

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Flurrin In reply to Tsiirae [2012-11-29 01:51:22 +0000 UTC]

Typical shark-jumping...

That always throws me off in a book. Redwall always established everything in one smooth go, so I guess I never got distracted during those bits...

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