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Description I did a bunch of OUaT edits and this is one of my favorites. I'll be putting a few more up here sometime soon too. I hope you like it.
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GoodOldBaz In reply to ??? [2014-06-05 13:18:14 +0000 UTC]

wow, thanks

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kijo-chan [2014-03-19 21:16:23 +0000 UTC]

Like that!
Haha, in the recent episode he is pretty much both!! After all looking like Mr. Gold but acting like the creepy Dark One! And I absolutely love BOTH! Β 

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GoodOldBaz In reply to kijo-chan [2014-03-19 21:32:08 +0000 UTC]

thanks

yes, so do I

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ninewood [2014-01-29 03:53:45 +0000 UTC]

Now that's cool!

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GoodOldBaz In reply to ninewood [2014-01-29 13:35:11 +0000 UTC]

wow thanks!!!

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Childoftheflower [2014-01-22 21:34:17 +0000 UTC]

Reminds me back when he said about being a villian; Rumpel has both the powers of light and dark despite being called the "Dark One", has done every single evil act one can think of but for a noble purpose he is both a coward but a brave at the same time. So while Rumpelstiltskin died believing himself a villian, he became a hero

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Childoftheflower [2014-01-22 21:38:00 +0000 UTC]

Rumple dies!? Oh my gosh what!? I'm only part way through season three. HE DIES!?!?!?!

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Childoftheflower In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-22 21:40:44 +0000 UTC]

Holy shit I thought you had caught up so sorry

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Childoftheflower [2014-01-22 21:47:00 +0000 UTC]

It's okay. You didn't know. I'll just cry now instead of later. (what am I saying, I'll cry then too) Β 

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FarCryDreamer [2014-01-22 19:46:46 +0000 UTC]

Actually gave me shivers, better even than the first time Gold got his costume change on the way to Neverland.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to FarCryDreamer [2014-01-22 19:49:59 +0000 UTC]

I'm really glad you like it!

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FarCryDreamer In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-23 16:25:36 +0000 UTC]

Love!

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GoodOldBaz In reply to FarCryDreamer [2014-01-23 16:30:51 +0000 UTC]

Β 

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FeatherQuilt1988 [2014-01-22 19:09:10 +0000 UTC]

Wow... awesome photo splice!

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GoodOldBaz In reply to FeatherQuilt1988 [2014-01-22 19:14:14 +0000 UTC]

thanks greatly!

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FeatherQuilt1988 In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-23 14:31:16 +0000 UTC]

Welcomes!

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CofOTraveler [2014-01-22 00:01:28 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I love this! I've always been fascinated by the differences in Rumple vs. Mr. Gold -- physically, he changes the most of any of the characters, except possibly the ones like the fairies and such. Everyone else just sort of switches costumes, but dear old Crocodile here... His pebbly skin, his wild hair -- and especially his eyes. It was probably three or four episodes before I actually realized the complete difference in his eyes. And then in the Neverland episodes, where he returns to his Rumplestiltskin clothes, but keeps his "normal" eyes... I dunno. It seems like he's finally starting to figure out how he can be both. Somehow, perhaps he can have both the powers of the Dark One and be a good guy. Or at least, he'd like to think so...
Anyway. Very nice edit!!

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GoodOldBaz In reply to CofOTraveler [2014-01-22 13:33:03 +0000 UTC]

Wow... such a thought out and in-depth comment. I do find it most interesting that he changes to much. But of course, you can't exactly have someone who looks like The Dark One wondering around in a town with no magic. He'd look kinda, well, out of place at least. (although, I think Jiminy has to claim the prize for changing the most - I mean, cricket to human and all) When Rumple changed his clothes in that first Neverland episode I laughed so hard! Hook was like "seriously, Crocodile? a wardrobe change, in the middle of a storm?wow." and Rumple was like "yeah baby, I'm back in my element now and I'm gonna show off. Anyway, who wants to walk around in the jungle in a three piece suit?" I loved how he didn't limp any longer! Kinda shows he's really got all his power back and Pan better beware! i do really wish somehow he could end up being truly good (i haven't finished season 3 yet so please don't give anything away ) anyway, I'm glad you like the edit .

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CofOTraveler In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-22 16:57:46 +0000 UTC]

Ooh, I hadn't even thought of the limp! I wonder... is there something to the limp? Like, does it merely represent that he's crippled without magic, or is there something actually about it... Like the curse takes something out of him, or that as the Dark One, he's physically handicapped in a world without magic, like a fish without water? Hmmm.... See, this is why I love him so much. A lot of the other characters are somewhat cardboard and 2D. Rumple is literally one of the most complex characters I've ever come across in film, tv, or books. He's wonderful.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to CofOTraveler [2014-01-22 17:33:32 +0000 UTC]

well, before he became The Dark One he smashed his knee with a sledge hammer so he could come back home to his wife and baby from the war, so that's why he limps. But I think it would make sense that as The Dark One (or in a place with a lot of magic) he would no longer have that limp because he can heal himself with the magic. He is indeed extremely complex AND wonderful!

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Moreuse [2014-01-21 23:22:42 +0000 UTC]

we are both... crazy?

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-21 23:28:59 +0000 UTC]

hahaha! weeeeellll! sometimes it seems like Rumple is crazy.
but it's called we are both because the one Once Upon a Time episode was called that and they all remembered who they actually were and they all had two different sets of memories in their heads. their real ones, and the ones they got from he curse. Rumpelstiltskin/Mr. Gold is portrayed here, one side as one personality, and the other side as the other

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-21 23:47:04 +0000 UTC]

ok... and what is this? cause i am compleatly lost.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-21 23:58:34 +0000 UTC]

It's from the tv show Once Upon a time. It's kind of hard to explain unless you know the show.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-22 00:22:37 +0000 UTC]

da, never heared of it.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-22 02:36:49 +0000 UTC]

It's quite interesting. you should check it out.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-22 03:14:52 +0000 UTC]

if i can.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-22 13:21:21 +0000 UTC]

of course

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-22 13:30:39 +0000 UTC]

mow... mow, mow... *bouncing around* by the by whats your thoughts about bisexuals and lesbians? (just curious.)

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-22 13:39:54 +0000 UTC]

Well, since the Bible says it's wrong, so do I. (not to mention there are all kind of health problems that arise form homosexuality) I don't hate anybody for being gay, but I do not approve of what they do.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-23 02:23:31 +0000 UTC]

explain the health risks please, cause i don't see how there is more than with a normal person.


a lot of Christians say that they hate homosexuals, but thats wrong cause god doesn't hate.


If i remember right the bible says it's not the natural way for things, which to me means that it's not natural because it can't produce offspring. I don't believe it's a compleatly unnatural thing because i've seen gay animals before.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-23 13:48:02 +0000 UTC]

Okay. here goes. in general gay men have a higher risk for several of the more serious sexually transmitted diseases. There are also studies to show that homosexuals are more likely to engage in sex acts that are not consideredΒ  "safe." Also men who have sex with men are more likely to get Hepatitis: A potentially fatal liver disease that increases the risk of liver cancer. Gonorrhea: An inflammatory disease of the genital tract.Β  Syphilis: A venereal disease that, if left untreated, can spread throughout the body over time, causing serious heart abnormalities, mental disorders, blindness, and death. And also Gay Bowel Syndrome, HIV/AIDS, and anal cancer. Some experts believe Lesbians might be more likely than other women to develop breast or cervical cancer, as well. It is also proven that there is more violence between homosexual couples then straight couples. A man I know who knows a man who works at the morgue said he could always tell when the person was gay or lesbian because they had more marks of violence on them then others, and he was always right. Homosexuals are also at greater risk of suicide and, in general, gay men have 8 to 20 years shorter of a life then straight men.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-23 14:04:07 +0000 UTC]

k, well the suicide thing is more of societies fault really. They also don't exactly choose to be gay or lesbian, or bi, they just are.


not sure how accurate all of that is, but can see a good part of it as lagit.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-23 14:22:10 +0000 UTC]

Yes, it's true that it can be more of societies fault, but in the end each person is responsible for their own actions.
I only repeated the things that are proven by study and research. Also, I disagree that people "just are" gay, lesbian, or bi. it is a choice. there may be certain people who lean towards homosexuality in their personality, but it is a choice all the same. just like I might have a tendency to be unteachable or angry, but that does not excuse me from my choice to be stubborn or mean being wrong, and being a sin. how many people do you think would get away with being lazy and being late for work all the time if they said "well, I just am lazy, so you have to excuse the fact that I'm never on time for work." sin doesn't work that way. even if there are many things which have happened in their life or which are in their personality which lead them to be a certain way or do a certain thing, it is ultimately the choice of the person doing it. good and bad things alike.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-24 01:04:16 +0000 UTC]

umm... no, science has proven that it's part of the brain, theres an abnormality.


lets look at it this way, do you choose to be straight? could you like another girl if you wanted to? Do you get any kind of sexual attraction to any women? (this may blow up in my face but whatever)


as for reasurch, i've known a number of reasurches that are actually rather byes and they tweek it or withhold info.


in any cae i get what your saying, but i don't believe your sexuality is a choice, not compleatly... which may help me see your point a little more.


again, in any case maybe i shouldn't introduce you to meko.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-24 02:31:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes, I chose to be straight. I'm hesitant to say this because I'm so ashamed of it and I have never shared it with anyone ever before, but once or twice I have been sexually attracted to a woman but when that did happen I felt literally sick to my stomach I was so guilty. I felt disgusting, I prayed God would take the feeling away, and He did. Since then of course I've seen women who I think are very pretty (Pauline Moran, for example, is gorgeous in my opinion), but just because I appreciate beauty. Beauty is so much fun whether it is in a man, a woman, or nature, or whatever, God has created such amazing things!

In reply to your saying it's scientifically proven that it's part of the brain that makes people gay, as you said, I've known a number of researches that are actually rather bias and they tweak or withhold evidence. The Bible is my ultimate authority. God is not biased and does not tweak anything. His word is truth no matter what.

But I don't want to argue. You asked and I gave my opinion, let's just leave it at that, aye? I am not going to change my mind, and in my experience people of your viewpoint don't either. No matter what you believe I still want to be good friends God bless.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-24 03:22:33 +0000 UTC]

ah, see than you do have reason to say that (and it semi messed it up on me.) I think i have been sorta attracted to a guy before, this being said he looked like a girl (and damn it that skirt didn't help.) Can definitely say i'm not interested in male's parts though.


My only thing with that is, the bible was written by men, men who at times tried to control people with it. Basically i read and try to talk with god to understand the truths and meaning from them. Reasantly i've realised i've been talking to jesus (or at least if not a surtain dark soul is doing a good job of pretending.)


Yes, i was just about to break away from said subject because it wasn't my intention to start turning this into an argument and i noticed i was starting to, which i apologize for.


now... i had a nother thing i wanted to ask about but... gurr, brain tossed it.


also now i wana have you meet meko anyway. O also of cause we still friends, it takes a lot for someone to get me really ticked off.


now... -_- wana huggles people.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-24 13:37:38 +0000 UTC]

All that I said last time being said, since then I've only ever been attracted to men. Thank God.

See, I believe that every single word in the Bible is inspired by God. But I do understand that many people do no believe that. Some of my closest friends do not believe that.

It's okay, don't worry about it, friend. if you ever remember that other question fire away. I think we'll always be friends - friends can disagree. Some of my closest friends and I disagree about things all the time.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-24 14:09:56 +0000 UTC]

I just don't believe the bible is 100% correct and that it takes some communication with god and some logical thinking to know what's true and what isn't.


ya, plus this discusion is nothing compared to the stupid fights i've had with some others.


whats your thoughts on magic, i think that was it.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-24 14:18:49 +0000 UTC]

Weeeellll... I like movies and tv shows and books that have magic in them (like Narnia or Lord of the Rings of Once Upon a Time or all the old Disney movies) and I like to think of it being real in a very fanciful way, but I don't believe it's actually real.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-25 01:27:06 +0000 UTC]

I believe it is real, i actually practice curtain kinds. This being said i think it is far from what we think of magic as. For example i use healing arts (magic) but what it is is more of a soothing energy along with practical medicine and herbology that, when put together, helps to bind wounds, promote healthy and faster regeneration.


I also think surtain kinds of magic and aspects to magic are real, for example Β i think seals work, least to an extent. I've never tried a big seal with a physical body because those always need a sacrifice and i would rather not use up large amounts of my energy or blood. Also i believe theres a magic to blood, which is why it used to be a sin to drink the blood of an animal or to eat another human, because threw the blood you absorb a small amount of soul from whatever it is you took the blood from. Kinda why i think you were not supposed to drink animal blood, otherwise ya would become like that animal.


kinda make sense to you? maybe i'm just a big dreamer

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-25 03:04:31 +0000 UTC]

um...well...I guess it makes sense, but I'm just not comfortable with magic in real life, or rather what is called magic. Often a lot of that stuff is slightly to very demonic, or at least it can lead that that sort of stuff. I"m certainly not saying what you are doing is demonic, indeed no! but I just don't want to get anywhere near to anything demonic or even slightly demonic, so I'm just going to stay well away from anything that people call magic. make sense? now I do believe in witchcraft and witches (ie, people who worship Satan and he gives them demonic powers) and sometimes bad people can hide under good outer appearances. so that's mainly why i try to stay away from that sort of stuff in in real life. just to be careful.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-25 03:25:19 +0000 UTC]

yes,i understand. i try very hard to stay away from dark magic, theres a number of things that i can sense bad mojo (energy or spirits or get a bad feeling from) one of the biggest are those damn weji boards... never... ever... touching one. Vodoo dools have bad mojo to, but they arn't inherantly an evil thing.


See real witchcraft has nothing to do with what most people consider witches magic. A lot of real witches are actually good and helpful people.


this being said i understand what you mean and i often meditate and talk to god and my spirit guides before really looking into any kinds of magic. This being said sadly not even druidic spirit walks are always safe. I managed to accidentally attract a cultists spirit. i drove it off before he could posses or do anything to me, but i don't want to go threw that again and he may have hurt one of my spirit guides.


basically i'm careful about what i do and the only really risky stuff i have done is talking to spirits (because i can't control who or what i meet) and some magic involving changing the energy in my body (mostly thats because i misjudge how much i am using or how balanced it is and i physically strain myself to much.


o, whats your thoughts on fortian telling/ tellers? (i ask because i do a sort of fortion telling called rune casting)

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-25 03:53:40 +0000 UTC]

yeah I understand that a lot of people that some call witches are actually just people who work with herbs.

I'm glad you're careful. That's good.

Well... pretty much I just think it's all just fake and made up like stuff that is done at fairs and things like that, y'know? I honestly don't know if I think some people can do it for real or not. I just don't. sorry.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-25 05:10:18 +0000 UTC]

well in all honest, 50% of magic is feeling it's real and thats why it works. Most magic is illusions and mind games.


as for the fortion telling, not really a fortian telling persay (that i do) it's more of a way to clear the line of thought for people. The way i do it doesn't give an answer, it gives an issue to overcome and a direction you may want to take (in a couple of cases i ended up with two)


my only issue is i need to personalise my runes, or as they call it, attuning. This is a small issue because i need to put my blood on the runes for the best effect (again if you believe such stuff) and i'm just worried about this attracting bad spirits. so whats your advice on it?

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-25 16:00:36 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't use your blood. It's obvious from the Bible (as you said before) that blood is a very important part of a person. I don't think it's safe to use your blood on something.

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-25 16:21:39 +0000 UTC]

ya, i just thinking so that the runes can be connected to me... cause i can use any body fluid so i really just need to spit on them... feeling silly.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-25 17:07:49 +0000 UTC]

if you are determined to do this, definitely use spit. actually I'd advise you not to do it at all, but you're an adult and can do what you think is best

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Moreuse In reply to GoodOldBaz [2014-01-26 01:00:32 +0000 UTC]

naw, it's not really anything dangerous and i may as well put my shamanic power to some good use.

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GoodOldBaz In reply to Moreuse [2014-01-26 01:53:20 +0000 UTC]

yeah... I guess so. Just be careful, okay?

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