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Published: 2009-07-08 08:25:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 1909; Favourites: 18; Downloads: 0
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Description ~The Pier~

Hehe yes, no characters!! Desert rat's obsession for water strikes again with this pier.

Hope you like it and thanks for coming by
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Comments: 58

ken1171 In reply to ??? [2009-07-09 01:10:01 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! The water look inviting...

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archclan In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 01:19:10 +0000 UTC]

it does makes me wanna take a swim

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ken1171 In reply to archclan [2009-07-09 01:45:54 +0000 UTC]

Haven't seen a real beach in over 10 years now.

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archclan In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 02:02:28 +0000 UTC]

same here -.- we usually go to the lake here next to us

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ken1171 In reply to archclan [2009-07-09 04:01:47 +0000 UTC]

I occasionally go to the lake nearby too, but that's an artificial one. -_-

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archclan In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 05:58:35 +0000 UTC]

ohhh -.-

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Dieggo-The-Hedgehog [2009-07-08 21:30:16 +0000 UTC]

Incredibleee!

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ken1171 In reply to Dieggo-The-Hedgehog [2009-07-09 01:09:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, it's good for a change.

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Dieggo-The-Hedgehog In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 03:15:40 +0000 UTC]

Yess i liked it^^

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ken1171 In reply to Dieggo-The-Hedgehog [2009-07-09 04:02:14 +0000 UTC]

Obrigadao! ^_____^

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Dieggo-The-Hedgehog In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-10 00:44:43 +0000 UTC]

De nada Amigo!!

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bear48 [2009-07-08 19:17:57 +0000 UTC]

sweet job

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ken1171 In reply to bear48 [2009-07-08 19:55:30 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! It quenches my water obsession... for a while.

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bear48 In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-08 22:45:59 +0000 UTC]

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melficexd [2009-07-08 14:00:33 +0000 UTC]

Lacks a bit of ambiental lighting. The open environments have a slight bluish tone. The shadows are a bit hard, though the overall look is pretty realistic. It is a great job

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ken1171 In reply to melficexd [2009-07-08 19:50:19 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I removed some of the ambient light in postwork because it was looking a bit washed away.

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melficexd In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-08 20:50:24 +0000 UTC]

The virtue is in the balance! ^^U

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ken1171 In reply to melficexd [2009-07-09 01:10:24 +0000 UTC]

^_____^

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SherbertTCat [2009-07-08 12:41:15 +0000 UTC]

Vue?

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-08 19:48:02 +0000 UTC]

Yes. You don't really think Poser could render like this, do you?

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-08 21:09:51 +0000 UTC]

I created a fur shader from scratch with, but yeah it's got it's limits!

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 01:11:24 +0000 UTC]

That shader with noise node on displacement? Great for Xmas! ^^

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 01:16:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I've found you can get sophisticated with displacement map fur. Like if you just want fur on one part of the texture.

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 01:45:25 +0000 UTC]

And you can vary fur color and length at different material zones.

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 01:50:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I had a pretty successful experiment in doing that. [link]
It's one of the few things I use the firefly render for.

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 04:01:03 +0000 UTC]

You mean you are rendering with P4 for everything else??? O_O;

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 04:08:14 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 20:33:50 +0000 UTC]

I think you are missing something. When you get to know FF better, it renders better and faster than P4 ever will, not to mention P4 doesn't support IBL, HDRI or AO. Such a waste... o_o

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 20:41:05 +0000 UTC]

How do I get it to render faster?
I got 1.5gb of Ram, and a 512mb Video card, so I dunno why FF renders so slow.
Sometimes it's just too much for the system and I get ye old "texture couldn't load!" error, when rendering with FF if it's a big project. (like a V4 fig with complex clothes and high res textures)

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 21:11:25 +0000 UTC]

You have to understand the parameters and play with them to use less memory and avoid wasting rendering time on things not being used in your scene. As usual, the default parameters are mostly bad. For example, 2 raytracing bounces by default is absurd for a scene without reflections over transparencies, and will multiply the rendering time for nothing. Another example is enabling AO over transparencies that will also have raytraced shadows casted, which will add a humongous waste of rendering time and fill the scene with ugly shading artifacts. In addition, enabling displacement on scenes that don't use it will also multiply the rendering time for nothing.

It is important to notice that FF will ONLY load a small section of the textures no matter how large they are. This will allow rendering scenes with huge amounts of hi-res textures without running out of memory. You can also configure the max texture resolution on the renderer to avoid wasting memory trying to render textures much larger than the final image itself, which wastes memory and adds nothing to your render.

P4 renderer will *always* try to load ALL of the textures into memory before it can even start rendering. I couldn't render nearly anything like that, even with my 4Gb RAM in a 64-bit system. Imagine that...

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 21:18:21 +0000 UTC]

Smaller bucket size good or bad?

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 22:49:52 +0000 UTC]

That only affects how much of a scene will be split into smaller pieces when rendering with multiple core/processors.

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 23:26:41 +0000 UTC]

I get two kinds of results, but neither of them trump my P4 engine renders.
They either look better but take way longer, or take the same amount of time and look worse. This is with no AO, Raytracing, or Shadows.

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-09 23:59:27 +0000 UTC]

This is probably because the default values tend to be only good for quick tests, not final renders. For example, enabling HDRI with AO and raytraced shadows with the default values will produce a dark results with lots of "dirty" rendering artifacts. In my tests, creating animations with optimized FF beats P4 rendering times by far. In part, this happens because P4 is not multi-threaded and will not take advantage of multi-core processors of nowadays. The P4 anti-aliasing is also slow, textures use too much memory, and shadows are imprecise.

Believe me, I was sticking the P4 renderer for as long as I could, until all of the above started to bug me. One of the reasons I was reluctant to switch to FF was the fact the Poser 6 was too buggy to render anything, and I thought it was because of the FF render. Whether it was it or not, things have been fixed in Poser 7, which I still consider the best version ever. Not perfect, but better. I have a feeling the new DAZ Studio Pro 3 may have finally beaten Firefly in features and final quality, coming with Radiosity, SSS, and global illumination, in addition to all the new lighting features that made Poser 7 the best version ever. That somehow pisses me off.

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-10 01:13:08 +0000 UTC]

Feh, it's the interface that turns me off.

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-10 03:41:43 +0000 UTC]

FF has more parameters to give you more control over your renders.

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SherbertTCat In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-10 04:07:23 +0000 UTC]

No I meant D|S.

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ken1171 In reply to SherbertTCat [2009-07-10 23:10:47 +0000 UTC]

I can't stand the confusing D|S interface, it confuses me... O_O

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lightangelhimika [2009-07-08 10:37:18 +0000 UTC]

Great perspective and really like how you rendered the reflection on the water.

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ken1171 In reply to lightangelhimika [2009-07-08 19:46:23 +0000 UTC]

After living in the Arizona desert for over a decade, water obsession becomes apparent in my outdoor scenes.

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lightangelhimika In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-08 19:54:01 +0000 UTC]

Same goes for my dad,he LOVES fishing.But he's stopped temporarily due to the strong heat and humidity we have here.

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ken1171 In reply to lightangelhimika [2009-07-08 20:23:01 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, the Arab Emirates are right at the Persian Gulf shore... which means lots of water... and beaches...

I haven't seen a real beach in more than 11 years... O_O

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lightangelhimika In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 09:36:53 +0000 UTC]

Aww ....hey,if you're on a summer vacation feel free to visit us!

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ken1171 In reply to lightangelhimika [2009-07-09 20:47:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! ^^ Do people wear the usual swimsuits in your country? I remember people were not allowed to in Jordan. I've been to Aqaba in Jordan, which is a sunny beach at the Red Sea shore but people were covered from head to toes. Must be hard to swim with so much clothing...

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lightangelhimika In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 20:52:23 +0000 UTC]

Sure,you'll find lots of British and other foreign people.
But it's so rare to find Arabs in bikinis.
But it's possible they wear one piece bikinis or so. I haven't been to the beach much. :l

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ken1171 In reply to lightangelhimika [2009-07-09 21:19:43 +0000 UTC]

I am not talking about foreigners. How do *YOU* guys dress in the beach? For example, a lot of people find it funny that the Japanese for many years used to go to the beach wearing suit and tie, mostly because they were new to westernized clothing and didn't understand when or where to use what. Europeans just go half naked to the beach all over the Mediterranean, but that would shock Americans terribly over here. One of the most contrasting scenes I have ever seen was at the Aqaba beach (Red Sea) in Jordan, which is side to side with the Eilat beach in Israel (it is the SAME beach separated by political borders). Everybody is on shorts and bikinis on the Israeli side, but people covered their entire body on the Jordan side of the beach.

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lightangelhimika In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-09 21:29:23 +0000 UTC]

Well,the mothers who usually don't participate always wear their "Abayas" (Black covered clothing) and the children either wear their normal clothes or swimwear same goes to the fathers and some mothers.
And I will admit that I *have* once swam in my casual clothing. But it was an accident.

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ken1171 In reply to lightangelhimika [2009-07-09 22:53:07 +0000 UTC]

So starting a swimwear store wouldn't be a great business, I guess. Just out of curiosity, won't wearing black under direct sun kinda "cook you up"? Why not white for better cooling on a hot day?

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lightangelhimika In reply to ken1171 [2009-07-10 05:53:30 +0000 UTC]

The abayas are mostly made out of light cloth.
The men wear white,but it's called "Kandourah"
The opposite of what the colors a newlywed would wear.

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ken1171 In reply to lightangelhimika [2009-07-10 23:12:22 +0000 UTC]

So white is for men and black is for women? Even if light, doesn't it get HOT when under direct sun dressing black?

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