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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to ??? [2013-08-16 04:57:42 +0000 UTC]
Sorry for the late reply, I had work and didnt have much time to reply after work because my fiance uses this computer too. Lol! No not bothersome at all!! I love these kinds of intellectual conversations. C:
Thank you <3 I am working on a similar large piece currently,
the topic is the whole of nature, and well the idea was spurred on by
some people I met a few months ago that were pretty much anti-nature.
Anyway.
This organization "Forward the Revolution" seems interesting. I'll have to read more into it.
Me and Rudy have talked about living relatively "off the grid" before, and it just didnt seem
likely because you need money to get to a point of living with minimal money.
The only reason we 'need' money and could only live half off the grid is because
my message wouldnt be heard without the internet, and with internet you need
at least electricity, and internet service, both of which cost, yup you guessed it: $$$.
Rudy hates money and prefers the bartering system, and wants badly to get into
crafting & blacksmithing, but its hard again, to do with minimal money to start with,
and a society that doesnt need it anymore. :C
(I love Rudy, can you believe hes a city boy? lol)
The song "I dont speak human" is an instant favorite.
"But I could see that you're the only evil creature here" o.o that line gave me chills.
Such meaningful words. Beautiful music dayum. I love it.
"Earth Warrior" is something I can sympathize with.
And their clothes are cool too I really like them, I'm going to share their tunes as much as I can.
I love meaningful music. <3
Are you familiar with Heather Dale? Its not exactly on the topic of nature, but meaningful
alternative music that tells a story and isnt meaningless like much of mainstream stuff.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC02Sl…
youtu.be/uqOqEU1xwxI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pUR9o…
o.o
Delta Rae is a favorite too.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOM0I…
Sorry for my little outburst. I dont get to share often, no one else likes this kind of music normally so ya.
I'm typically hesitant to show people what I listen to. XD
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Callypso666 In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2013-08-16 08:37:24 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome.
I know exactly what you mean. ^^ I also tend to hold back most times (especially on the internet, since in my private life I have managed to actually surround myself with pretty many people who also like this music and such, but most of them are still less - well lets call it "alternative" or sceptical as far as their actual private life, life style etc are concerned)... With you however, I have the feeling of "talking the same language" (though we might choose drawing and/or natural motives instead of usual "human language" - hinting back to the Omnia song here)... Judging from your message and the things we share I'm sure you also often have the feeling of not beeing understood at all. Be sure you are understood over here however...
By the way, again you have managed to hit home perfectly fine: Heather Dale is one of my favourite musicians in fact. The songs I like most are: The Maiden and the Selkie, Changeling Child, Joan, Medusa and Trail of Tears (btw I'm heavily into Native American Culture as well, I really would like to live closer to them like you do ) ... Asking for forgiveness and turning to those we (the "civilized" world) have and continue to hurt, viewing them with respect and adoration (no matter whether they are human or not) can be an amazingly eye-opening and wonderful experience indeed. I very much try to let myself be inspired and influenced by them in art and especially real life as well...
Since my family has belonged to what is considered to be pretty much below the poverty line for a long time by now (caused by quite a lot of misfortune and problems within our family from the very beginning since my parents came from to Germany from abroad, which was shortly before my birth actually) I do know very well what it means to have no money. It is not easy at all... By now the situation of us children is slowly stabilizing because all of us have been working and studying a lot for as long as I can think back...
However, I do believe there are things each one of the members of "normal" (is it? o.O) society can do to change and reduce his/her own way of participating in all this absurdity and cruelty that surrounds us (especially concerning use of energy, means of transportation, diet, medication, cosmetics and clothing - the list of ecological and social impact due to the suffering caused for nature and people - especially the native and weak ones - never ends). "Forward the Revolution" also provides us with particular guidelines concerning the areas I have just mentioned e.g.
Crafting and blacksmithing you say? Sounds amazing to me. I guess I have never mentioned before but I am totally into that kind of thing. I love stuff with the theme of Medieval or ancient way of living etc. I have been to a few medieval festivals over here in Germany this year (btw that's also where Omnia usually performs) and it always gives me so much inspiration and power for my own life. It's amazing! I don't know whether festivals like these are popular in your country as well, but maybe you or your fiancee will manage to take a root at something like this as well. It's always very inspiring and you can actually meet quite a lot of people who also think/act/talk/live differently than the average person or "friend" does. It's a great way of sharing ideas and inspirations as well.
I can very much recommend looking for stuff like this.
I hope this helps in any way and I'm very much looking forward to sharing this kind of things in the future. Be sure to have found a comrade in arms and a person with an open eye, ear and heart for this kind of thoughts, especially for everything concerning the protection of nature and wildlife as well as spirituality and a pretty much alternative way of living.
Oh and yeah, and I by no means have an objection to sharing/exchanging good music/books/movies/other inspirations/pretty much stuff about everybody and his dog so don't be afraid at all! ^^
Gree(n)t(h)ings and lots of love, piece and sunshine (o.O this sounds veeery hippie haha, never mind! ) to you and your family,
Paulina
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IceFang100 [2013-03-21 03:05:07 +0000 UTC]
Truth is good. I don't understand why people hate wolves so much;There has never -recorded- Been a human killed by a wolf, of any kind. Sure, lots of attacks; But what did they do wrong? We were the ones who invaded their territories.
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megadracosaurus In reply to IceFang100 [2017-02-09 13:49:55 +0000 UTC]
Not really. They have been known to attack humans unprovoked. In North-America, such cases are rare with only two fatal attacks in recent years. In the Old World, its very common. Research shows that wolves, out of all predatory mammals, are the second-most likely to become maneaters in the Old World. In case your wondering, the first place goes to the members of the Panthera genus, which includes the lion, tiger, leopard, jaguar and snow leopard. The latter two of the five pantherines don't have a long or rich history of attacking humans, but that's a differant subject.
The most recent attack in North-America was the Candice Berner accident in Alaska, in 2010. The attack happened near a town where Candice Berner was jogging on the road. The research and evidence shows that this wasn't a defensive attack. There were no pups, dens or kills nearby, and the wolves attacked Candice like she was a prey animal, killing her and dragging her off the road where they started eating her. After the responsible wolves were killed, DNA research confirmed that the culprits were infact wild, fullblood wolves with no hints of rabies or any other disease. They were also not starving, as there were plenty of deer and elk in the area. There were no reports of escaped wolves or wolves being fed before the accident, meaning this was a predatory attack where the wolves viewed Candice Berner as a prey animal. www.adn.com/alaska-news/articl…
The other attack happened in 2005, and is known as the Kenton Joel Carnegie Wolf Attack. This attack was also predatory, but the reason is more obvious. The attack happened at a campsite where wolves had been known to eat what campers left behind, which made them lose their fear of humans. The area already had a bit of a history of wolves attacking humans, although this was the first time someone died. They found his body, surrounded by wolf tracks and the corpse showed sign of consumption. There was no evidence of suicide or homocide, and there were signs of an attack. Bears hadn't spotted in over a month in the area, and the attack took place while they were hibernating. No sign of cougars either. Even David Mech, the lead sciencetist on the field of wolves and whom is often considered to be the founder of modern wolf science, confirmed that this was a predatory attack.
As far as I know, these are the only two fatal, unprovoked attacks in recent years. In North-America, that is. In the Old World, as I said before, wolves have a long history of attacking and preying on humans without being provoked.
A report from Japanese Korea in 1928 showed that wolves killed 48 people, which was more then the tiger, leopard, bear and wild boar attacks of that region combined at the time. Now let's look at some famous wolf attacks. The Wolves of Ashta were a pack of Indian wolves that , between the last quarter of 1985 to January 1986, killed 17 children in Ashta. The attacks continued untill the entire pack was culled, where the hunters and tribesmen confirmed the culprits had been Indian wolves. During the time they lived, villagers were so terrified that many refused to let their children go outside, yet the killing continued. I once heard that the Wolves of Ashta went as to far break into huts and drag their victims outside, but I have my doubts about that claim. It seems more like something a leopard would do.
In 1944–1954, the Kirov Wolf Attacks happened. These wolves weren't afraid of humans and killed around 22 children between age 3 and 17. During this period, wolves were the most common predators in Russia (They still are, infact) and were often regarded as dangerous pests. Which, by the way, they still are in Russia. While some of these attacks were comitted by rabid wolves, the vast majority were predatory attacks done by wolves that weren't afraid of humans and saw the people of that region, Kirov Oblast, as prey.
The Wolves of Hazaribagh killed 13 children aged from 4 to 10 years between February and August 1981. They had gotten the taste of human meat because they dug up corpses that were burried at a local morgue. This attracted pariah dogs, golden jackals, striped hyenas and also Indian wolves. The pack eventually started hunting live humans.
In France, historical records compiled by rural historian Jean-Marc Moriceau indicate that during the period 1362–1918, nearly 7,600 people were killed by wolves, of whom 4,600 were killed by non-rabid wolves.
In Turku, Finland, the Wolves of Turku killed 22 children that were around 5 to 6 years old in the spam of one year, 180-1801.
In Iran, 98 attacks were recorded in 1981. Records of wolf attacks in India began to be kept during the British colonial administration in the 19th century. In 1875, more people were killed by wolves than tigers, with the worst affected areas being the North West Provinces and Bihar. In the former area, 721 people were killed by wolves in 1876, while in Bihar, the majority of the 185 recorded deaths at the time occurred mostly in the Patna and Bghalpur Divisions. In the United Provinces, 624 people were killed by wolves in 1878, with 14 being killed during the same period in Bengal. In Hazaribagh, Bihar, 115 children were killed between 1910-1915, with 122 killed and 100 injured in the same area between 1980-1986. Between April 1989 to March 1995, wolves killed 92 people in southern Bihar, accounting for 23% of 390 large mammal attacks on humans in the area at that time.
Here is a list of all several reported wolf attacks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_… Notice how the majority of the predatory attacks take place in the Old World? And also notice how the majority of these victims are either children or young women? In other words, easy prey for a large, pack-hunting apex predator. Like all predators, wolves go after the easiest meal. This means old, sick, pregnant and young animals, although they aren't above taking down healthy adults either. And children and young women are easy prey. Its not a coincedence they are the majority of the victims. The aricle also provides links to things such as official reports.
EDIT: Ignore this comment. Just saw how old the discussion is -_-
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to IceFang100 [2013-03-21 06:12:42 +0000 UTC]
People have been killed by wolves.
Most famous was a teacher in Alaska who was killed in recent years.
Her name was Candice Berner.
But this does not make wolves bad, yes its a sad terrible event when a wolf kills a person, but its so rare that its not even a yearly event, and its been well documented that wolves avoid and are typically extremely cautious and fearful of people.
We have to keep in mind that wolves are predators, yes they hunt, its what they were built to do. But that doesnt make them any better or worse than any other predator on Earth.
And you are right, we have sectioned off territories and bunched them so close together that they have no breathing room.
It causes conflict with rival packs, so the wolves try to expand their territories at the expense of sometimes coming into our own.
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megadracosaurus In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2017-02-09 13:49:26 +0000 UTC]
It kinda depends though on where the attack takes place. It really annoys me when people claim that wolves rarely attack people, because that's only the case in the New World. In Asia, especially in Russia and Asia, wolf attacks are actually quite common and happen frequently, and they are the second most likely predator to attack humans unprovoked second only to the big cats. The Wolves of Ashta, the Child-Lifters of Hazibaragh, the Kirov Wolf Attacks...Incidents enough.
I know people usually don't mean it that way, but by saying that wolves rarely attack people, I feel like they're ignoring all the people that are killed in the Old World, which I find disrespectful and almost like they only care about what happens in America. But that's just me :/
EDIT: Ignore this comment. Just saw how old the discussion is -_-
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Ventus-AmaraOri [2012-11-28 15:46:24 +0000 UTC]
Very well said. I absolutely love this!
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animalluvr6 [2012-11-28 01:04:36 +0000 UTC]
This is beautiful!
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RowanDaliaWood [2012-07-04 20:33:27 +0000 UTC]
Wow, awesome drawing and showing how wolves helped fix so many problems. Why do humans hate them so? Wolves are very human! Refer to the tale of Lobo- The King of Currumpaw; it shows how they are no different from us in many ways. (I know you've heard that tale.)
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to RowanDaliaWood [2012-07-04 21:32:19 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
I honestly dont know why so many people can hate wolves so much.
I recently watched a documentary on dogs, and they said that dogs in some of
the ways they communicate socially CAN be more like people than even how our closest relatives
apes communicate.
That intelligence comes from the wolf and how they communicate with one another
and was molded in the evolution of dogs to understand human ques such as pointing at something with a finger, something many other animal species cannot do.
Ah yes i am a big fan of Lobo, he changed the history of conservation here in America, and that would echo onward to other countries adapting better conservation practices. His death saved lives.
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Dark-Hyena [2012-05-02 19:02:48 +0000 UTC]
Correction: dogs are domesticated small sized Middle Eastern desert wolves, not domesticated North American timber wolves
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to Dark-Hyena [2012-05-04 20:53:52 +0000 UTC]
Wolves were likely domesticated over here too, the native Americans were domesticating dogs.
And even if they werent,
i wasnt being specific, since American Timber wolves are related to the Middle Eastern wolves i feel we still owe them. All wolves in general.
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Dark-Hyena In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2012-05-04 23:53:53 +0000 UTC]
Native Americans crossed the Bering land bridge with domestic dogs from Asia. They never domesticated North American wolves from scratch. The best the North American wolves did was influence the physical development of some sled dog breeds, and thats all.
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Dark-Hyena In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2012-05-05 00:11:37 +0000 UTC]
Despite the fact that Middle Eastern wolves are more doglike than North American timber wolves, i.e: are smaller in size, have proportionately smaller skulls and teeth and prefer to live in pairs than in groups, and prefer to prey on hares than on giant ungulates?
The labrador you have in your illustration owes none of its ancestry to the wolves in Yellowstone.
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to Dark-Hyena [2012-05-05 00:12:54 +0000 UTC]
No, but it owes it to wolves in general which is the point i was trying to get across.
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Dark-Hyena In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2012-05-05 00:19:02 +0000 UTC]
No, not wolves in general, wolves in the Middle East.
Read Helmut Hemmer's Domestication: the decline of environmental appreciation. The so-called "northern wolves" (the wolves of Europe and North America) have had a very negligible effect on dog domestication. Indeed, their very size and aggression made them completely ineligible for such, hence why Native Americans simply brought their own dogs from Asia as opposed to starting the domestication process all over again in the New World.
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to Dark-Hyena [2012-05-05 00:50:51 +0000 UTC]
They are related, so yes we owe them too.
And while they can be unpredictable
due to not having the years of domestication, selective breeding from wolf hybrids has produced gentle dogs before. Not that i recommend it, but to say that
they are vicious and ineligible,
just isnt true.
And you are missing the point.
Dogs in general, came from wolves.
North American wolves are still wolves, and are related to the Eastern/Asian wolf.
I said they owe 'wolves' again i wasnt being specific on which subspecies.
For instance, if John Doe
gave me food in a time of need
i'd respect and be thankful to his cousin, siter, uncle, aswell.
Im thankful to the whole Doe family,
as i am the whole wolf family.
Understand?
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Dark-Hyena In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2012-05-05 01:37:38 +0000 UTC]
If John Doe gives you food in time of need, would you be thankful to me? I am, after all, the same species.
We're not talking about close family relatives here, we're talking about seperate subspecies. That would be like thanking a member of Homo sapiens idaltu for something a specimen of Homo sapiens sapiens (our own subspecies) did/achieved.
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to Dark-Hyena [2012-05-05 01:54:47 +0000 UTC]
I guess its a matter of opinions, therefore pointless to argue about.
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puregothwolf [2011-12-23 05:55:22 +0000 UTC]
OH MY GOWD!
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shirls-art [2011-12-09 12:25:45 +0000 UTC]
great information about the wolve and beutifull gallery too
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Waldorf99 [2011-12-06 10:51:44 +0000 UTC]
This is so amazing. I like bear and wolf and buffalo
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to ArcticIceWolf [2011-12-05 13:19:35 +0000 UTC]
Ah thankyou! That really means alot to me.
Yeah some 'wolf fans' have given us a bad name so
i've heard the word 'wolfaboo' floating around DA alot. :/
Im a wolf lover, but i actually bother to do research on what i love.
So i actually know what im talking about. Im not some dumbass
hitching a ride on the wolf bandwagon. lol.
No animal is better than the other.
And you are so friggin lucky to have gotten to go there!!
I want to visit there so bad. D:
Thank you, it was hard and took forever. XD
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ArcticIceWolf In reply to mysteriouswhitewolf [2011-12-05 18:11:41 +0000 UTC]
I think the word "Wolfaboo" is one of the worst insults known to me!
What the hell is wrong about supporting wolf welfare? Why must I always defend myself? And why do people think someone doesn´t care about other animals (and people) just because he is a wolf fan? Yes, I definitely care about other animals too, even domestic animals that "aren´t endangered". For example, I hate it when parents give their children living rabbits for Easter, because they´re "so cute". Rabbits are indeed cute, but a lot of people forget that they have feelings too and need our care... and because of that people neglect them or want to get rid of them! I have a little experience with that because I already rescued two rabbits from a teenie girl who got them as babies and neglected them after a while.....These poor things had cages in the size of a fruit box and sometimes they even didn´t have water to drink because that b*tch forgot it!
Sadly, I had to give them away due to moving but where they live now, they get lots of love and care...
And I also boycot circuses that keep wild animals like tigers, lions, bears etc. and I don´t like people who buy exotic wild animals as housepets!
Concerning wolves, I don´t just love them, I also research about them on the internet and in books! There are even fantasy/fictional books which portray the natural behaviour of wolves, because the authors did research when they wrote the story. I can recommend for example "The Chronicles of the Ancient Darkness" by Michelle Paver, "The Sight" and "Fell" by David Clement-Davies, and "The Wolf Chronicles" by Dorothy Hearst. Dorothy Hearst is a biologist and David Clement-Davies and Michelle Paver both did researchs with the help of famous wolf experts like Shaun Ellis or David Mech!
But what I HATE is all that stupid werewolf stuff, as much as children´s storys that makes kids fear wolves, like Disney´s Peter and the Wolf
I´m so happy that you understand me concerning that "wolfaboo" thing!
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mysteriouswhitewolf In reply to ArcticIceWolf [2011-12-06 00:15:59 +0000 UTC]
Dont get me wrong, i love werewolves, and all those fascinating fairy tales about them too, but i dont believe them to be the wolf's actual nature.
And o.o i actually wrote down all those books you mentioned... i have to read them now...
Yes im aware of other animals going through strife too,
like lobsters who all too often get boiled alive at restaurants,
and did you know thats actually not healthy for the people who eat them?
Because they release so many stress hormones at one time into their tissue
that its almost toxic.
So i support restaurants who quickly kill the poor things first instead of boiling them alive.
And i agree, there is nothing wrong with supporting wolves.
They are like any other animal. And need to be respected like any other animal.
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HuskyLover4Life [2011-11-26 06:23:42 +0000 UTC]
wow! you are way better at drawing people and animals than me!
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MADMANHales [2011-10-20 00:02:43 +0000 UTC]
holy crap thats awsomeness overload right there
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