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ObsidianSerpent — The path to the sea

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Published: 2019-07-20 15:29:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 138; Favourites: 6; Downloads: 0
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Description Acrylic on canvas board.   10" x 12"
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clara-01 [2019-10-19 14:30:31 +0000 UTC]

This is lovely! I always loved this style of art, but I know I'll never have the patience for it.    Do you use the wet method of the Ross's type method?

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to clara-01 [2019-10-20 17:54:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.  It isn't "proper" pointilism as I've just done a stippled effect rather than the proper thing.  Even so, yes, it is a bit time consuming.

Do you mean Bob Ross?  He uses a layer of wet liquid clear medium on his canvas before he starts, I've never tried that.  Although I did see in the art shop near us that they are actually stocking tubs of Bob Ross' liquid clear and was thinking about getting one to see what it's like.

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clara-01 In reply to ObsidianSerpent [2019-10-20 20:56:21 +0000 UTC]

Oh, then it isn't him. My dad spoke of a dry technique that you don't need to wait in-between couples of brushes strokes for them to dry out before continuing, unlike wet method. I thought it was Bob Ross' (as he does a painting in about a hour)... Or did I get mixed up, and its the wet method that doesn't require waiting?

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to clara-01 [2019-10-21 09:50:44 +0000 UTC]

This painting is in the fast drying acrylic, whereas the Grasmere landscape painting that comes next is done in oils so was painted wet on wet all the way through.

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clara-01 In reply to ObsidianSerpent [2019-10-21 12:40:19 +0000 UTC]

Wow! But I do understand why. The oils did give the Grasmere painting that wet, misty look, so it was perfect, whereas this painting that the sunny crisp feel.

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to clara-01 [2019-10-21 09:48:46 +0000 UTC]

Well acrylic paints look very much like oils but they dry straight away within seconds/minutes.  Whereas oils can take days or sometimes weeks to dry.  I like both types of paint, they both have their good points. 

Bob Ross uses oils, and his whole painting will be wet the whole way through and take days to dry.  It's one of the reasons why he can blend the colours together so well.  The reason he can paint one wet colour on top of another is that he starts off with the colours quite thin, and then makes them thicker. (If you do it the other way, the thin colour will just mix in with the thick colour underneath to make a muddy mess. He makes it look so easy but it takes some practice to get the hang of.)  (When Bob died his son took, but although his son did all the same things, his son just really wasn't as good, it made you realise just how good Bob Ross was.)

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clara-01 In reply to ObsidianSerpent [2019-10-21 12:38:50 +0000 UTC]

Ah, okay! So it actually depends on the medium used and not necessarily the technique, for how fast it dries... The way my dad talked about it, it felt like simply a different technique.

Yeah, Ross was incredible. We used to have VHS of all his tv show episodes.   
I admit I simply don't have the patience...    But I've seen a few... shortcuts, that interests me to pick up the traditional side, even though I know many artists might feel it's cheating and probably un-professional.   (example:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwM1w-…  and   www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQXe6L…)

The rest, well, I've always been more of a digital artist, again, cheating as there are undos and redos and virtual layers that one can simply delete or copy. 
But I am truly admirative of the traditional art. It is awesome what artists can do with a brush, a canvas, and a couple of colours.

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to clara-01 [2019-11-28 13:26:24 +0000 UTC]

Very sorry I haven't replied, I've been away and then since I've come back I haven't been very well, so I haven't been on DA for ages.

Thanks for linking me to the shortcuts.  It's very clever what people think of to get certain effects.  I don't think there is "cheating" in art really.  So long as you are getting the result that you want it doesn't really matter how you get there.

I haven't managed to get to grips with digital art.  I do like it and I've got a wacom bamboo as I was trying to learn it.  But I've drifted away from it as I need to watch more tutorials as I'm not doing it right. (My pictures were ending up absurdly big or I couldn't get details...just everything too pixellated, and I couldn't seem to use the oil paint brushes to get an effect that actually looks like the way I paint with oil paint. 

Plus it was taking me WAYYYYYY longer to do in digital what would ahve taken me half and hour with "real" paint, so was just getting frustrating.  I shall have to watch some Youtube tutorials and go back to it though.

And thank you so much for the points you gave me, that was really sweet of you.
xx

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clara-01 In reply to ObsidianSerpent [2019-11-28 15:53:48 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry, I understand too well these things that real life throws us. Do you feel better? Was it major?

I understand very much; digital is frustrating sometimes. And I completely agree: most of the times, actually doing it physically takes way less time. Even my attempts at drawings took me perhaps 2-3 hours. But don't ask me to do them digitally, I would give up.

So yeah, everyone should just do art the way they feel like it's the best for them. It's one of those rare things in life where literally no one has to do it like everyone else for it to work.

And you're very welcome. It was the least I could do.

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to clara-01 [2019-11-28 22:56:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, no nothing major.  I just have had a really rotten persistent cold/sinus infection.  Plus I'm not sleeping at the moment...maybe only four hours a night.  Plus when I DO sleep I'm having the most awful nightmares.  Last night I was on an escalator going upstairs...but then I realised that the stairs above me were just running into a ceiling, so there was no place to "go".  So I turned around to escape being squished and tried to start running back down the "up" escalator that I was on. 

But the steps had run out below me, so it was just a flat metal strip.  "That's fine," I thought, "I can just slide down the metal." 

But then the base of the escalator suddenly rose up in front of me in a sheer white wall, and I was trapped between the wall moving up towards me and the ceiling behind me.  

And then I woke up, and felt shattered, but couldn't get back off to sleep again.  

And sorry, that was WAY more info than you needed.    But the nightmares are wearing me out a bit.  

(Maybe I should paint them...dreams you don't want to have...   )

Yeah, I love seeing what people do with digital art, I just haven't got to grips with it yet. 

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clara-01 In reply to ObsidianSerpent [2019-11-29 15:20:45 +0000 UTC]

Urgh, I hated those nightmares, they really do drain you out. I used to have them when I was under stress, under pressure to do something at all cost; or dreading situations at work or home... When these got resolved, the nightmares stopped. I hope it's simply something like that for you, and that it will resolve.

That's not a bad idea, actually. (painting them)

On my side, I simply learned (with lots of years of practice) to force dream's realities to bend to my will. it's harder to do than said, but the success rate improve with each trial. Dream bullets are for example a pretty done deal that they no longer affect me... to the dismay of the dream antagonist. 

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to clara-01 [2019-11-30 11:10:10 +0000 UTC]

Yes, they are draining, but I'd rather have them than no dreams at all.  I know a few people who can never remember having a dream (though they must have them presumably, just aren't aware of it).  I do like having them, they're often so bizarre and occasionally really nice.

I've heard of lucid dreaming, where you teach yourself to be aware that you're dreaming and can then change bits of the dream you don't like etc.  I take it the bullet thing is a bit like that?  (Now that's one dream I've never had, never had anyone shooting at me.  Maybe it's because the UK doesn't have handguns as standard so it's not a fear at the front of my mind)  

Only thing that puts me off about lucid dreaming is I read an interview with a celebrity years ago...I can't remember who it was...who said he taught himself to lucid dream, but then once he knew how he couldn't go back.  So he was never completely "in" his dreams after that, he was always self-aware, I wouldn't like that, seems too much like being awake.

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clara-01 In reply to ObsidianSerpent [2019-12-01 17:06:27 +0000 UTC]

The same. I really like having dreams, and I always worry when I spend a few days not remembering that I did. Some of my story ideas and manip concepts came from dreams, so I appreciate them.

Yes, it's a form of lucid dreaming. but like you, I never took it to the extent where I can be aware of the whole dream. I would hate it too, being too aware. I only learned as much as to be able to modify a nightmare toward a better ending, so I can continue to enjoy the dream.   

Well, here too, in Canada, it's not supposed to be standard (actually, it isn't, it's reserved for officials). But it's still a very present crime in the neighbourhood cities, so... that fear kinda seeped in my dreams.

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quiltineb [2019-09-02 05:03:34 +0000 UTC]

I love how these look but I've decided I hate painting them. Yours is beautiful!

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to quiltineb [2019-09-03 17:28:52 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. It was interesting to try, but I don't think I think it's a technique I'll carry on with.

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B-gata [2019-07-27 11:09:45 +0000 UTC]

Ooh I like the dotted painting style.

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ObsidianSerpent In reply to B-gata [2019-07-28 07:18:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.  The ground area looked boring, so I tried the stippling to see what would happen...then moved onto the sky to make the whole thing hang together.  I rather like it, but I don't know if I like it enough to use it again... certain aspects of it work, but it kinda makes the whole painting a bit...pernickety somehow.

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