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Published: 2006-08-23 21:56:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 6496; Favourites: 13; Downloads: 20
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I recieved this map of Europe 2015 in a powerpoint file... it's now a wallpaper for the freedom fighters. This situation might really happen, probably not in 2015, but the mad european leaders are really building the Eurabia described and denounced by Bat Ye Or. Peter Grier wrote in the USA Air Force Magazine an explanation called "A crescent over Europe ?"...Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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We're not talking about single countries like Albania and Turkey taking other single countries, we're talking about the ISLAMIC conquest threatening european nations, that's the matter of this wp...
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Lol, if something like this were to happen, I think I'd quickly hightail my ass out of Europe to the states.
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Western Europe is in a suicidal way...
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If Europe turns in such a nightmare, I wish you'll remain a Swede !
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That's what happens when utopian fools worshiping multiculturalism give up their land to ennemies...
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Not funny. Because it hit´s the wound point.
"Um einen wunden Punkt treffen zu können,
benötigt man nicht nur Zielsicherheit. Man
braucht auch einen wunden Punkt."
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Sweden should be New Saudi Arabia, things are going downhill here.
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I wish Sweden could stay a Viking nation, not an arabian nation. Defend what you are, defend your land and your european identity... don't forget what your flag means. Greetings.
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I can't believe people are able to publish such a lame picture. I'm from France and not an immigrant but I know many and some are my friends. There is no such a conspiracy.
I agree european history and culture is great but since the invention of navigation about 5 000 years ago there are cultural exchanges with other peoples bordering the mediterannean sea.
I agree terrorism is a threat but few muslims are actually extremists and there were and there still are christian extremists. The ones who put a mosquee into fire in Lyon are terrorist as well.
So I'm sorry but I don't approve you nor are even understand why you think like this.
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Hello petite française, ou petit français...
Te repondre va me donner l'occasion de faire travailler un peu mon français...
Je ne te convaincrai pas car il n'y a pas plus aveugle que celui qui ne VEUT pas voir.Lorsque des personnes ont des avis differents, quels que soient les arguments de l’un ou de l’autre, il n’y a jamais d’accord possible. Chacun reste en quelque sorte d’une surdité intellectuelle fracassante aux arguments de l’autre.
Je te suggère simplement de regarder ceci : [link]
et de te demander si tu es toujours chez toi et si la France est toujours la France...
Un jour, tu deviendras lucide sur ce qui est en train de se jouer en Europe, mais personne ne peut faire le chemin à ta place.
Greetings.
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Je ne suis pas du genre à refuser le dialogue quand celui-ci est argumenté. Au contraire j'essaie de toujours douter de ce que je dit et suis près à changer d'avis quand on me prouve que j'ai tord. Cependant j'ai l'impression que ton opinion est plus basé sur des a priori et des convictions que sur des faits.
La video que tu m'a envoyé est très touchante. Je voix des être humain qui manifestent pacifiquement et qui prient pour les victimes de la guerre. Comme ces gens, j'ai de la compassion pour le peuple de Palestine. Même si je ne crois pas en Allah, je souhaite avec eux que la guerre prenne fin à Gaza.
Les choses ne sont pas aussi simple qu'il n'y parait. Le Hamas est responsable, tout comme l'est le gouvernement israëlien. Beaucoup de palestinien souhaite la paix avec Israël et de nombreux israëlien n'approuvent pas le régime en place. Et je te renvoie à cet article qui montre la complexité de la situation. [link]
Bien sur ce n'est qu'un aperçu d'une crise qui concerne des milliers de personnes et des milliers d'opinions.
Ce n'est pas parce que je ne m'oppose pas en bloc à la culture musulmane que j'accepte tout aveuglement. Je suis révolté par le régime taliban, le terrorisme d'Al Quaïda et le traitement des femmes en Arabie Sahoudite et en Iran.
Pour revenir sur ton image, il est vrai qu'il y a beaucoup d'immigrants en provenance des pays arabes en France et en Europe. C'est un fait qu'il serait absurde de contester. Mais cette immigration a des aspects positifs. Le mélange des cultures à créé des artistes que j'admire comme l'auteur Marjanne Satrapi, le chanteur Ridan, les comédiens Jamel Debbouze et Gad Elmaleh. Sait tu que le footballer Zinedine Zidane, champion de la France, est le fils d'immigrés algériens. Enfin même si j'adore l'andouillette, le saucisson lyonnais et le gratin dauphinois, je suis content de pouvoir manger un Kebab ou un couscous à Lyon.
En Bref je suis conscient de l'immigration mais on peut la voir comme un apport et non comme une invasion.
Je te remercie de m'avoir ré
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It is obvious that this wallpaper talks about Western European Christian current countries
running to suicide by accepting millions of muslims to come in…
Turkey is not an european country, and Turkey is already muslim since centuries… so Turkey has not to be in this map. Greetings.
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Okay, nothing like this is *ever* going to happen. It's just some paranoid conspiracy, methinks. You might as well say that the Mexicans will take over America and the French-Canadians will take over New England.
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Hello Kid23... you couldn't give a better example with the "Mexicans taking over America"... Don't you know that the USA are becoming a latino nation. People talking spanish are now in the USA the first minority, and are even a majority in over twenty cities of 100.000 citizens. The WASP dominion begins now to be seriously endangered in north-america...
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this is clearly a exaggeration. Europe will remain largely Christian for a while to come. Sure the Muslim population in Europe is growing, however that will not result in Europe becoming a bunch of Islamic countries with isolated Christian enclaves. What is likely to happen is that the majority of Muslims coming to and being born in Europe will integrate with the current societies of the continent . There will be some tensions of course, but I feel everything will turn out fine. Europe has long been a culturally, ethnically, and religiously diverse place. and it will remain so for a long time to come. It seems a new form of moderate (and is some cases liberal) Islam is emerging in Europe. I don't think there is much reason to have much fear over this.
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Of course it's an exageration ! It wouldn't be a warning if it wasn't exagerated.
I think your optimism is dangerous. It seems you ignore the islamic texts, and the conquest methods used by Islam since 622. Your integration theory is truly uncertain. Europe has long been a culturally, ethnically, and religiously diverse place, that's right, but the various people that grew in Europe were very similar. Muslims are largely different.Christianity and Islam are fundamentally incompatible.
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Phew I thought this deviation had gone, that is why I posted that comment in your frontpage.
Many apologies
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I forgot to add that you need to add something on Sweden and Norway, unless we are to believe that the epidemic of rapes perpetrated by a majority of muslims there is caused by hormonal stir during the summer months as a result of global warming as some crazy people in Sweden proposed!
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That's just incredible Hyllyn... despite all we can see, all the problems european folks have with many muslim people, there are always useful idiots to explain, apologize, or support their own hangman... something like the Stockholm syndrom...
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Pretty much the same way it has been defined by sensible folks over there (in Scandinavia).
I will try and find something I read and post it here so that you loosen your jaw after you read it for it is nothing more than either a jaw-dropper or a fist-clencher article.
"An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape."
"An incredibly revealing article that tells us all we need to know about the multiculturalist fetish in Europe and some parts of North America, not to mention the need for change within Islam. Apparently, the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65 percent of rapes of Norwegian women were performed by "non-Western" immigrants – a category that, in Norway, consists mostly of Muslims. The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo (note: her name is Unni Wikan) as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."
[link] (Check that one out)
There was an account of a Judge in Sweden who absolved a muslim immigrant after raping a local because he claimed that she was dressed too provocatively and as such he was compelled to act on it. Now this seems to be a pattern that is repeating itself over there and I can only leave it to you to make your own conclusions.
I don't know about you but if someone came into my house and told me that I better use a pair of shorts because if I am dressed in a smart suit he might rape me I would at the very least get the police onto it, the problem is that it would seem that the police would like me to comply to those demands even though I am in my own house ... crazy.
I also want to make something clear once more. Do I have a problem with the race? no I do not for most religions have a following in almost every region of the world. Do I have a problem with religion? yes I do, particularly if that religion seeks to dominate and wipe everything else that is not like it from the face of the planet. Would I have a problem fraternizing with people from any background no matter their colour and race? I already do providing they do not seek to exterminate everything in the planet that doesn't convert to their credo.
Am I wrong for standing up for believing in that and wanting a change to that? Some would say yes, but if I agreed to that then would it not be better if I was given a tag with a number and sent to a concentration camp to mine stone or weave baskets for them? Do I want their disappearance from the planet? No I do not, I am not like them, but I do not want to disappear just because they don't like me being free.
Get my drift? If you don't and still think I am promoting hate speech, then you should see the reactions of some when what is consider blasphemous by them is comitted, or when they see something that does not go hand in hand with what they agree! They talk of chopping heads and burning people, not me. So perhaps we should make it consecrated in the laws of every freedom loving nation in the world that anyone who insults those values we stand for should be removed for the safety of the greater majority who want to get on with anyone who loves freedom (yes freedom sometimes involves things you might not like or consider different, that is the point).
Kindest regards
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I'm glad to see that some people are waking up and smelling the trouble.
Best regards from a sympathetic and respectful ex-immigrant.
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Thanks Hyllyn... To my part, I'm lucid since many years already... We have to hope that more and more people will wake up, before it's too late...
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See, problem is people often jump to the conclusion that because you oppose an idea immediately that makes you a racist, fascist, and what not. It seems funny to me because I am for example a foreigner in the E.U. yes I have European ancestry here and there but nevertheless I am not born and bred. I am also of mixed blood and I have lived in first person with messy pseudo socialist/communist regimes (the name Hugo Chavez might sound familiar to you).
However as much as there be things I don't agree with wherever I go without exceptions, I try and stick to the rules and I do my best to contribute (example I am not residing in Britain at the moment but if I was trading as a self employed jeweller and selling from there I would have no problem with making voluntary National Insurance Contributions). You get my drift I suppose, I might not love everything but if I have decided to go anywhere then it must be because there is something about it that I love, like, appreciate and as such I want to help preserve it, and that is a right and duty anyone anywhere has towards the place they live in and the culture represented therein, and standing up for that should not be reason for scorn, abuse and intimidation.
I have no qualms about being pragmatic when it comes to bellic problems however I do have an issue when people who call themselves freedom fighters pick on civilians as their adversaries, go and fight against and army if you so do wish but civilians are not military and I am afraid that the more I look at it the more I am convinced that the attitude of certain type of immigrants the world over is more like that of an invading army which treats the local as adversaries, their women as war booty (for example the scandinavian wave of rapes by a majority of muslim immigrants is an example) and their culture as offensive. If it is so bloody offensive then why the hell don't they either move elsewhere or try and change something about themselves, especially since the majority came under no duress, so one would imagine the reasons are either they like the place and the culture, or they like the place to eradicate the local culture and suplant it with their own.
Multiculturalism is just a facade for all sort of macabre purposes and even though it should be a good thing a foreign culture should be there to add hues and colours to the already existing ones, it should never overpower or seek to substitute it.
Perhaps I overstep my station by saying all of this but I cannot understand why if they are so vociferous about being offended and issue threats against everything we stand for (be it right or wrong in their eyes, better or worse... to me it is just different and as such it must be regarded and respected) then those who love the patch of land or the people we have come to live by cannot stand up for them...
Gladly I have noticed that the awakening has started earlier than I supposed it had so maybe not all is lost, the problem is that the people in power are bound by the laws of Political Correctness and that is the first hurdle to overcome if a sensible solution is to be found to this mess. Honesty should never be cause for shame and it should be fostered, not abuse or hatred, yet a sector of the inhabitants in Europe in this day and age are allowed to be more than just honest in their intentions and abuse and hate.
Am I an Islamophobe for speaking out? no under no circumstance. Why? because I feel no phobia, I am not afraid of any of it.
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We will be still the same 
I am from Czech republic. I hope Europe will be in future still beautiful.
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Nothing more than fearmongering by cospiracy nuts.
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I am not against diversity but this is scarily true. It seems that most of Western Europe are disrespectful towards their history, millions of people have sacrificed themselves for that land, culture, and belief. There shouldn't be a problem with foreigners living in your land just so long as they don't preach or push their belief and culture on yours. In some middle-eastern countries it is punishable by death to preach christianity. There should at least be a fine for preaching islam. 'Crime against the culture of ______' (enter your country).
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these is scary , but if we do not wake up it is more then possible...
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Yeah! Great idea! Mayeby 2015 is too early, but this vision of truth is possible.
But just tell me why is there this "Principality" over Poland name?
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I don't really know... See, Austria takes back a name which reminds his past position as an Empire. As all european countries, Poland had a king, and of course a Prince in past times. By givint to Austria and Poland these names, I guess the author of the first map wanted to express that european nations must recover their real identity (including their christian part) to resist the islamic conquest running now over Europe.
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I wish that Poland could be monarchy again
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I hope your wish will be fulfilled, Brother JudeGang...
Poland would better quit the Federal European Union, that's a trap ! It raises from communism and is falling into another kind of dictatorship...
Thanks for the fav !
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There's really no reason (or room) for Islam in those countries. People are migrating out, actually.
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LOL, im sorry but this is never going to happen. Mainly of the strong European identity, but also because EU already has a dominant religion. To saturate and displace it, the entire global musim population would have to come to the continent. Theres a difference between tolerating and respectibg other cultures and just an entire shift in perspective.
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Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, not only in Europe.
The strong European identity you speak about is more of a weekend occupation to most. Take the Belgians, the Brits and others as an example.
Even if some do feel some sense of identity there's not real sense of pride, at least not one that can be compared with that of the muslims.
Yes indeed it would be quite difficult for Europe to become thoroughly islamized but you would be surprised if you don't live in Europe (or even if you do) by what EU politicians are capable of conjuring up.
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actualy buddhism is the fastest growing religion in the world...
just wanted you to know
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As much I wish you were right, just look at what happened to the Native Americans.
They actually don't have to ALL come to Europe, and the reason they come is because the EU has very low birth rates, thanks to a thing called secularism. And with their high birthrates, Muslims will soon be the MAJORITY in Germany, England, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain and Italy.
One UN projection indicates Europe will lose more people this century than it did during the Black Plague, which is the ONLY noticeable decrease in the human population in the last 12 000 years.
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As a society, we are more advanced and have a different optimal population based upon that. The immigrant populace still have large families = good as part of the their societies structure, same as we did till 120 years ago.
The population will go down, but it will find a new equilibrium. Native Americans were displaced by Europeans remember, they may call themselves Americans now but they are geneticly European.
I can see more policies in future to maintain the European ethnic majority in the continent, no Racism intended but using Israel as an example of a foreighn ethnic group recolonising Israel after an extended hiatus did not go peacfully.
To conclude, yes there will be more people comming in, but not enough to totaly displace or for a revolution/uprising, there is a limit as to how much people will tolerate.
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Don't forget that the lands today called Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, for example, were Christian lands before 622. Egypt wasn't muslim. Then came the muslims from Saudia, and their Christian identity disappeared. This could happen again in several european countries, it's happening nowadays in Kosovo !!!!!!!!!! with the perfidious help of the european leaders. Kosovo is a Chrisitian Serb country. Serbs were still the majority in the 1970's, they are now less than 5% of the population. There's a lot of muslims in the UK, in Germany, etc...
OPEN YOUR EYES my friend, and fight for your nation or your descendants could live under the muslim law.
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Look, its a religion, people in Europe arent -that- religious compared to places elsewhere, like the middle east for example. Athaeism is growing in EU, but do people complain?
Also, Christians and Athaeists make up around 96% of Britians population and Germany takes in guest workers from Turkey to plug up the employment gap. As Turkey isnt in the EU and will remain that way for the forseeable future, when the Turks Visas run out the workers from eastern Europe will replace them. If they are muslim then frankly I couldent care less if they dont try and convert populations or preach on the streets. I dont do the same in the streets about reckoning there needs to be a little more proof that there is anything beyond tangable life, so co-existence is fine.
If Europe becomes aetheist, so what?
Same with any religion, its choice.
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I like Solomone's example.
Recently in Britain it made it to the news a case of a native family who had relocated to an area where muslims are a majority and at school the girl having spent quite some time under influence of muslim children decided that she was to become a muslim so that she could blend in with her friends.
That says it all.
This for example might seem an inocuous event [link]
However could you picture Muslim parents allowing their children to partake in any nun-muslim activity? never mind actually going to the church of a different religion to experience it for a day? I certainly couldn't ... so much for integration.
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