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The rose of my lute.My first
Awfully fragile thing.
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Beautifull. Is it a copy of a real historical lute rose or is it your own desing?
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Thanks! It's a copy of an historical model. You can google-image "venere lute rose" to see more...
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Ah, it seems to belong to the Bologna Venere. How embarassing, I even own a copy of that instrument (but it came with a Railich rose).
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I made my lute using this > www.vanedwards.co.uk/renlute.h⦠instruction package, which comes with 3 rose designs.
Who is the maker of yours? Did you order it, or is it second-hand?
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Mine is a "student's instrument" buildt by Matthias Wagner. I bought it second hand but still unused from a collector through the small ads at German Lute Society's website (Deutsche Lautengesellschaft).
It came with rib spacers, an edged soundboard, fingerboard points and other fancy things I would never have expected on a student's instrument.
Can you recommend the guide by vanEdvards even if I do not want to build exactly this lute? So far I've only read the Lundberg book and was glad to hear of a new German lute construction book that recently appeared as a book on demand (but have not managed to lay my hands on one so far).
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Yes, the Van Edwards package is a true gold mine. I learned so much with it. It has absolutely all the details you need to build the instrument. I have the Lundberg book as well, both are quite useful to have, as they present things differently (using quite different techniques) and complement eachother. Lundberg doesn't say so much about the bowl construction, whereas it's quite detailed about other aspects, such as the soundboard tuning, which D. Van Edwards doesn't detail much (you actually don't need to know so much about it to build a nice and playable instrument -- just follow the plan). By the way, I had the chance to show him my lute two years ago, when we built the little viol together...
Soundboard edges and fingerboard edges are in my opinion (and experience) not so much additional work on a lute build (maybe 2 hours altogether), so I don't really see the point (no pun..) in leaving them out, even on a student lute. And according toΒ D. Van Edwards, spacers make the bowl easier to build...
Let me know, if you know more about that german book...Β
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Oh wow, I wouldn't want to touch it for fear of breaking something!
Hope you are pleased with it.
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Magnifique... Ce luth va Γͺtre un chef-d'oeuvre presque trop dΓ©licat pour en jouer.
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Merci Quirin!
Bah, si je le casse j'en fais un autre!
Et mΓͺme si je le casse pas...
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Oh! That is stunning!!
Based on the way you do everything else, I'm guessing this is all cut by hand, right?? (I could see making that with a CNC machine but - hand?)
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Of course by hand.
I don't think you could do it properly with a machine (maybe a laser?), it's *really* fragile (the branches are about 1.5mm thick), each cut must be made with respect to the grain direction. And you don't get the same clean blade-cut effect and shine with a rotary tool...
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The machines are pretty amazing. I saw a CNC cut a piece of poplar into belgian lace - the operator was testing a new ceramic burr that left the wood looking like it had been oiled and polished.
Your craftsmanship makes me happy. Sincerely - my world is a better place knowing there are people who still care about making beautiful things with their hands.
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I must say I haven't seen much stuff done by CNC machines...
Indeed, our modernity makes us forget we have hands to make things instead of buying them ready made. And it's such a pleasure to do it!
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WOW! Amazing! So delicate and beautiful and precise! This is really a jewelry work!
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It will actually allow the lute to take a breath
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That's awesome work. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have managed it without breakage. And the symmetry and uniform look to all your lines and sections is impeccable.
You've reminded me once again how far I have to go with my own carving efforts. An inspiration, as always.
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Thanks. Actually it did have micro breaking at several places. Thank you superglue! There is also a sheet of watercolor paper glued on the underside to reinforce wood in the weak fiber direction.
And the design is punched through a drawing of the rose, that helps keep things symmetrical and uniform...
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Even with a pattern on top, I doubt I would have done so nice a job.
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Actually I did do a bit of practice piece before also...
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I certainly hope you'll be doing more of these, considering how lovely this one is.
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Thanks, yes I quite plan to do more (I did invest into some quality tools... I must make good use of them!)
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Holy cow, Jerome! That is incredible!! It looks so delicate!
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Thanks! Yes, I had to put some superglue here and there to prevent things from falling apart...
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I understand that sometimes they reinforce these with linen glued to the back . That is just a super job . Wow , and again wow !
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Thanks. Yes indeed, there is some reinforcement (and superglue!). But for lute roses, black-dyed wood bars are used and glued accross the underside. Then there is also paper strips inside the lute body over the joints. I think it can sometimes be linen or parchment too...
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Thanks for your information .
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is this maded with CNC machine
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