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Published: 2007-11-26 16:34:30 +0000 UTC; Views: 6810; Favourites: 120; Downloads: 86
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Description ink 2007,
Finnish soldiers in a trench during the Continuation War 1941-44.
The one on the left is armed with Lahti-Saloranta m/26 light machine gun. There's also 'Suomi' KP-31 submachine gun in the scene.

Inspired by a photograph.
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CyronDaio [2014-06-04 11:18:15 +0000 UTC]

dude, this is amazing! it must be my wallpapper... i really love the scene

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Cweed1 [2010-05-24 16:54:38 +0000 UTC]

I hope you don't hate the Soviet/Russians after serving in Finland's army . I personally felt the Finns were the heroes in the Winter war, but they were slightly dishonourable in the Continuation war .

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Cweed1 [2010-05-25 11:35:59 +0000 UTC]

I don't. I'm portraying and stydying the war and military history without political or ideological views.
I love my country and our history, but that doesn't make me "hate".

I don't see the Continuation War as "dishonourable" war, I think it was unvoidable as Finland was just a chess piece in the world politics.
I guess by that you mean the Finnish-Germany relations? I suggest you explore that a bit more and realize that Finns and Germans had very little in common with their objectives and ways of fighting the war. Only thing in common at the time was the enemy.

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Cweed1 In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2010-05-25 13:11:54 +0000 UTC]

But a peace treaty between Finland and the CCCP had been signed, I was just saying that breaking the treaty was bad , as with any treaty breaking. Leningrad pro'ly was not very happy, but I s'pose no-one really has a choice what they do if the Nazi Reich is occupying their country.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Cweed1 [2010-05-25 13:51:22 +0000 UTC]

Assuming you mean the Moscow Peace Treaty in 1940 that ended the Winter War?
The Germans started their Operation Barbarossa in 22.6.1941. In the morning of 25 June, the Soviet air offensive bombed the Finnish civilian targets. At the same time, Soviet artillery stationed in their Hanko base began to shell Finnish targets, and a minor Soviet infantry attack was launched over the Finnish side of the border in Parikkala.
Finnish Prime Minister Rangell had intended to present a notice about neutrality in a parliament meeting, but the bombings led him to observe instead, that Finland was again at war with the Soviet Union. This lead to the Finnish attack into her formerly lost territories.

Germans didn't occupy Finland, there were German troops in Lapland, but Finnish was never under Nazi Germany occupation. During the "interium peace" between the Winter- and the Continuation War, Germany was the only country willing to economically and industrially help the Finns (assuming because of their own aims in the oncoming war), there weren't even political pacts made. Finland was a democracy all the way, with free elections. Really bizarre feature in WW2 Europe.

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Cweed1 In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2010-05-25 14:00:40 +0000 UTC]

But I've seen pictures of Finns in Nazi Uniform in books, and Blue Swastikas on German planes, flown by finland . Also, our books state that Finland declared war on the 22nd of June and began invading towards Leningrad at the same time as Barbarossa, but the Red Army tried to prevent the Finnish advance with their own counter-attacks.

That is what our country teaches, and what your country teaches, either way, both our countries killed innocents and made mistakes.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Cweed1 [2010-05-25 14:54:53 +0000 UTC]

Closest thing of Finns in Nazi uniform would be those volunteers who went to Germany for military training and fought on the German Eastern Front from 1941 to 1943 in 5th SS Division 'Wiking'.

I think you've seen pictures of Finnish airplanes. The blue swastika hakaristi was the symbol of Finnish Air Force from 1918 onwards, has no connection to Nazi Germany. For thousands of years, many nations, groups etc. have used swastika as a symbol and without any nazi-sympathy or connetion.
There's lots of information available about this.

There was never a formal declaration of war by the Finns, as far as I'm concerned. At least I haven't found anything about it.
Finnish objectives were to capture the territories lost in 1940 Peace and to create a buffer-zone against any Soviet aggression. In Karelian Isthmus, the Finns stopped around the old border of 1939 and despite Hitler's wish, the Finns did little or nothing to contribute to the siege of Leningrad. I guess we understood that what ever happens in the war, Russians will always be our neighbours.

I'm little sceptic about the Soviet/Russian military research, I'd hope it would be more open and less politics-related. I think Russian people have the right to know about their history. I hope that happens one day.

Nevertheless, you sound like a smart guy and I have nothing against you. War is always a bad thing, and it brings out the best and the worst of the both sides, like you said.

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Daniel-Storm [2009-01-09 03:45:52 +0000 UTC]

Love the style. Love the anchoring with the dark values. Excellent piece of work!

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Kalasinar [2008-05-16 16:32:36 +0000 UTC]

I love this. Absolutely fantastic

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WarioWarrior [2008-02-13 09:28:19 +0000 UTC]

Tulta munille!!!

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MG0815 [2007-12-04 17:51:21 +0000 UTC]

brilliant.....

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VoltaireArts [2007-11-28 23:36:44 +0000 UTC]

Great scene!!!

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to VoltaireArts [2007-11-29 01:19:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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Sainte-Vincient [2007-11-27 06:59:57 +0000 UTC]

oooh! I really like this! Yes, I know it's a war piece, but the technique, composition and execution are great. There're hints of a new direction in your style perhaps; just undercurrents but significant.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Sainte-Vincient [2007-11-27 10:15:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks and yes, possibly I pay more attention to light and shadow these days... so there's actually sun or moon light in my works now, no longer just cloudy days with minimal shadows

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PavelKirilovich [2007-11-27 00:48:36 +0000 UTC]

Fantastic! I like your ink work, since generally it comes out "crisper" than say pencil or charcoal. All three of which (Ink, Pencil, Charcoal) when applied to FDF history, generally come out kickass. This is a fantastic piece of work here; its almost as if you had a photograph as a reference. I'm guessing you didn't, but that's just how goddamn good this is.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to PavelKirilovich [2007-11-27 10:34:35 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much! Personally I'm not sure if there was reference, I found this old sketch I had forgotten. If you find a photo like this in the Net, please inform me. I personally liked charcoal, it was sort of 're-discovery', but it requires some time, is hard to handle, especially when all my charcoal sticks are currently about quarter of an inch long. I had a charcoal pencil (pencil with charcoal instead graphite) but I wasn't satisfied with the outcome, although it was easier to handle. Ink with grey-scale markers is cool for more of a 'comic book' style work, and I enjoy using them in that purpose... there are few acrylics paintings coming soon, so lets see what people think about those.
Remember we've been talking about the similarities between Canada and Finland? One thing occurred in my mind; some countries have a 'maternal' figure symbol. Finland has Suomi-neito, The Maiden of Finland . Is "Mother Canada" more larger concept or just a part of the memorial in Vimy Ridge?

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PavelKirilovich In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2007-11-27 18:47:38 +0000 UTC]

We don't have anyone like Aura. Most Canadians are unaware that it is "Mother Canada" standing vigil on Vimy, just one more thing that's wrong with my generation. The Russians in this case are closer to what Suomi-neito is, particularly with their Stalingrad memorial on the Kurgan in Volgograd. Canada seems to be lacking symbols like that which any Canadian would recognize; we've only got the maple leaf apparently.

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OneMoreMarine [2007-11-27 00:39:56 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is awesome. It looks a lot different in technique though, it seems a lot 'cleaner' then some of your other work. It's still great, and I hope to see more!

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to OneMoreMarine [2007-11-27 10:36:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you

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KodyYoung [2007-11-26 22:38:44 +0000 UTC]

Awesome job and detail
"Kuulitko? - Did you hear that?" Yes, I did, sounds like Ivan is shitting his pants!

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to KodyYoung [2007-11-27 10:36:56 +0000 UTC]

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BroInArm [2007-11-26 22:21:17 +0000 UTC]

Great work! Love the details.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to BroInArm [2007-11-27 10:38:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Although I believe details are something I've tried to cut out here. Have you given up on that coloring project?

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BroInArm In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2007-11-27 21:13:30 +0000 UTC]

Well, I have had lots of things to do. I got really REALLY far. But haven't touched it in a month due to work and school.
Thanks for the reminder though! I'll try to finish it soon.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to BroInArm [2007-11-27 22:36:44 +0000 UTC]

You can send your 'work-in-progress' to my e-mail is you like. I can say what I think

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dukeleto [2007-11-26 22:01:28 +0000 UTC]

that's awesome, do more ink!
don't like the blueish ink on their trousers tho, tbh.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to dukeleto [2007-11-27 10:47:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, and yes I do. Maybe it got little too 'blue', the trousers were darker shade than the summer tunic in Finnish m/36 uniform, as you can see for example here and here . Maybe too 'blue'... Also, the adjustments of the computer screens in different viewers, very hard to find a ideal colours.

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dukeleto In reply to tuomaskoivurinne [2007-11-27 14:38:59 +0000 UTC]

Certainly different screens can make a big difference, but the trousers (and maybe the right-hand mans belt) certainly have a very different colour value to the rest of the pic.

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tativiana [2007-11-26 21:36:30 +0000 UTC]

Amazing!!!
I like the ink lines.

Do you like war and dinossaurs?

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to tativiana [2007-11-27 11:14:32 +0000 UTC]

Thank you... Yes and no... I don't 'like' war, nobody should 'like' war... but I am interested in military history, enjoyed serving my time in the Finnish Army, and enjoy drawing/painting military subjects. Dinosaurs are something I've always liked, and in my opinion everybody should 'like' dinosaurs

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kain01 [2007-11-26 21:14:56 +0000 UTC]

Todella komee työ...

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to kain01 [2007-11-27 11:15:01 +0000 UTC]

Kitooos

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Wisker [2007-11-26 20:28:12 +0000 UTC]

This one looks quite clean and the details are nice.
Good work dude. Authentic as always.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Wisker [2007-11-27 11:15:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, man

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Baleks [2007-11-26 18:43:29 +0000 UTC]

Jaahas, voi vaikuttaa vähän siltä että favvaan näitä ainoastaan saadakseni huomiota niinku jotkut mun ikäset. En nimittäin melkein koskaan kommentoi sun teoksiasi. Ei oo yleensä muuta sanottavaa joka ei oo jo sanottu aiemmin. No, hyvin tehty.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Baleks [2007-11-26 19:20:09 +0000 UTC]

No saitpa kumminkin huomioo ja vähän pätee...

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Maleiva [2007-11-26 18:28:06 +0000 UTC]

Nice work, very good

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Maleiva [2007-11-27 11:15:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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barbecuesoap [2007-11-26 17:27:30 +0000 UTC]

hel-ve-tin upea! Todella siististi toimii tuo tumman musta + vaaleamman harmaat. Ihan sika siisti!

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to barbecuesoap [2007-11-26 17:42:33 +0000 UTC]

Ohhoh... kiitos

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Life-takers-crayons [2007-11-26 17:20:05 +0000 UTC]

Nice little drawing

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Life-takers-crayons [2007-11-27 11:15:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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Flamepanzer [2007-11-26 17:03:20 +0000 UTC]

Hieno, nämä sinun maalaukset ois upeita seinällä

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to Flamepanzer [2007-11-27 11:19:25 +0000 UTC]

Onhan noita muutama... tää on tosin A4-kokonen piirros, ei maalaus

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UtterCreep [2007-11-26 17:02:59 +0000 UTC]

Wehey! Awesome work.
En kyllä keksi mitään moittimisen arvosta tuosta kuvasta. Fiilis on mahtava, kuvakulma on mielenkiintonen ja ukot näyttää siltä että tekis mieli itekin kurkata poterosta ulos.

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tuomaskoivurinne In reply to UtterCreep [2007-11-26 17:43:26 +0000 UTC]

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