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Description So, I'd been thinking about this for a while and finally decided to do some little pics for it.

Now, we all love winged characters, right? Right. Even I love characters with wings, even though I'm not usually into mixing human and animal traits like that. But no matter what the reason, it seems like most people have a soft spot for winged folk. For me, that winged fellow is my OC Roland. :3 But a while back I got to thinking- what would it actually be like to have wings? Especially ones large enough to sustain flight for a creature of human size? Personally, I think it would be a huge pain in the butt. XD Granted, being able to fly trumps all the downsides, but try to imagine how annoying wings would be and how often they would get in the way? So while I was thinking about this for Roland, I realized a few things.

1. You would probably hit a lot of people accidentally in passing with that large of an appendage on your back. Oops.

2. It would be really hard to lay on your back if you had wings. And with wings as big as Roland's it would be difficult to lay on your side as well. You would always have to sleep on your stomach to keep from laying on or smooshing your wings.

3. It would be really hard to sit in any kind of chair with a back. You'd have to find backless seats (like a stool) to really sit comfortably, but then you would have nothing to lean back against. :<

4. Wings that large would be very heavy to lug around. And it's not like you could put them down for a while or anything. Also, for feathered wings like Roland's, I'd imagine they'd just get even heavier when they got wet.

5. And lastly, it would be really hard to put on shirts if you had wings. Really, I don't think it'd be possible to put on a normal shirt with wings that large, even if you cut holes for the wings to fit through. That's why Roland usually wears backless shirts that go on more like an apron. They're much easier to get on and off and they don't restrict his wings like a full shirt would.

Oh, and the invasive people one comes from the fact that I figure a lot of people would want to touch your wings if they were pretty looking. XD

*Edit* P.S. I am fully aware of the fact that winged people would be used to these problems and would have found ways to deal with them, so you don't need to keep mentioning it to me. I know how birds work. I know how wing bones and skeletal structure in birds works, and I know how waterproofing on feathers works.Β  This was done for humor, and to point out some simple problems that winged people would've had to have learned to deal with. Also, it was done as a joke for this particular type of winged character- which is just a regular human with wings slapped on really, which as we all know, wouldn't work in real life.Β  (This was also made with my character in mind, and he lives in a society where only some of the people have wings, so not everything is made to accommodate his large wings size) So PLEASE stop trying to point out to me how it "should" be. It's a joke people, roll with it.

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VenomQuill [2020-02-29 02:18:01 +0000 UTC]

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SFeather2022 In reply to VenomQuill [2021-11-16 12:21:39 +0000 UTC]

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VenomQuill In reply to SFeather2022 [2021-11-22 03:15:07 +0000 UTC]

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Dr-Kineil-Wicks [2020-01-05 03:53:16 +0000 UTC]

I remember finding this years ago--and now, in 2019 and 2020, writing up a fanfic involving bird-people, I realize I subconsciously thought of this deviation whenever I write the characters dealing with the day-to-day-ness of being bird people because I'm pretty sure I addressed every single one of these in the fic.

In sum: still important things to know and still great.

Awesome job!

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ChicaFanatica18 In reply to Dr-Kineil-Wicks [2023-10-14 14:21:52 +0000 UTC]

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Dr-Kineil-Wicks In reply to ChicaFanatica18 [2023-10-14 16:37:15 +0000 UTC]

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AngelBearOH [2018-06-27 17:44:38 +0000 UTC]

I love it when artists try to wrestle with the problems winged characters have. Some have solutions that are very different.

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Lunarcat731 [2018-04-16 00:39:16 +0000 UTC]

everything i can understand, exept..Β the ones at the center, if you knew what you were doing, it would not be a problem, FOLD THEM!

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Lady-Pilot [2017-10-07 17:39:42 +0000 UTC]

Interesting

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seionara [2017-08-09 14:48:12 +0000 UTC]

The easiest way to fix the dressing problem is to make it normal to not wear shirts in that society. It might make it awkward to interact with humans, though and you'd still need some sort of either oversized coat or normal one with slits that can be buttoned up after you've managed to put it on.

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Turtle-Arts In reply to seionara [2017-08-13 21:00:45 +0000 UTC]

Haha, actually I got around the problem pretty easily by making his clothing generally backless, and fit on more like a halter top or apron.

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queenspiritfeather In reply to Turtle-Arts [2018-03-31 03:04:27 +0000 UTC]

Or maybe even velcro tops, magnets embedded into the edges of a shirt as well?

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Bellis-Wingclaw [2017-06-20 23:15:52 +0000 UTC]

I just love this. Your art style in this reminds me of Legend of Zelda Wind Waker .

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sketchy-sketch50 [2017-04-22 12:24:00 +0000 UTC]

lol this is what I think about when I have free time

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nkmblackhyuuga [2017-03-03 19:30:13 +0000 UTC]

I was wondering. Do you think it would be more "practical" for a humanoid, have vampire / bat / dragon wings, than bird, or less?
I do not know why, perhaps having grown up with Gargoyle and seeing the bats fold their wings, that makes me think, that they would be somewhat less "dashing".
But you are the expert, what do you think?

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flockfantrekkie In reply to nkmblackhyuuga [2017-06-09 19:45:06 +0000 UTC]

I think it would be more realistic, since we're mammals, but for practicality's sake it would be more difficult.

With webbed wings, the membrane can't detach from the back, which is not the case with feathers.

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nkmblackhyuuga In reply to flockfantrekkie [2017-10-18 13:28:23 +0000 UTC]

First, sorry for the delay in answering.Β It's funny, that the two that you have answered me think that when I was almost 100 percent convinced otherwise (lots of gargoyles in my life I guess).Β It had not occurred to me to think about the membrane. Thank you for letting me know, and thank you very much for sharing your opinion!

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Turtle-Arts In reply to nkmblackhyuuga [2017-03-04 10:39:52 +0000 UTC]

lol, well I'm no expert, but I feel like the impracticality comes more from how large wings would have to be to carry a human, coupled with the fact that our skeletal structure is not made to balance that kind of added weight, be it bat or bird wings. So on the one hand, neither is practical in a more logical viewpoint, but in fiction they seem fairly equal to me in terms of practical function. though I feel like having full-on bat wings probably makes wearing clothes a bit more difficult in general. haha!

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nkmblackhyuuga In reply to Turtle-Arts [2017-10-18 13:32:39 +0000 UTC]

First, sorry for the delay in answering.
Well yes, we are being hypothetical because for me it would be amazing to be able to fly and the wings would look cool . You have a good point with the clothes, although I suppose it would look very different from the beggining?, I mean, that clothes designs, maybe with ribbons or belts like some "exotic" clothes XD
Β Thank you very much for sharing your opinion!

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Dionette [2016-12-24 04:47:23 +0000 UTC]

Β Even with compensation, this is still hilariously true. A shame these sorts of things aren't thought about more often when developing avian people (I've plead guilty to this before ). It's funny to think that the "accidental" wing slap was a result of invasive people getting to close.

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Turtle-Arts In reply to Dionette [2017-01-02 07:14:24 +0000 UTC]

lol glad you enjoyed it! XD

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Riverfox237 [2016-09-03 04:09:58 +0000 UTC]

It's so true. XD

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Djake [2016-07-11 04:41:03 +0000 UTC]

Hehe, this is a great observational piece - like stand-up comedy, but without having to stand up. Β 
I've come across some of these as well, with my cambion character Nazynn. Β After all, when one is part-succubus, the question of beds is going to come up eventually. Β  Β Hers is especially difficult, because she also has more-or-less caprine legs, with spikes poking out of the calcaneus - which wear the heck out of a mattress when one sleeps on her back.

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RebellingLemming [2016-06-10 08:42:27 +0000 UTC]

Love Love Love!

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UndeciddUndiscovrd [2016-05-09 03:37:06 +0000 UTC]

Still wants wings xD

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shadowdollcat [2016-04-06 03:31:39 +0000 UTC]

So true if this were to happen I bet!

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AwesomeSauce5Yolo [2016-03-13 02:57:10 +0000 UTC]

What about also trying to hug someone with wings?

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flockfantrekkie In reply to AwesomeSauce5Yolo [2017-06-09 19:46:20 +0000 UTC]

Hugging is actually not that hard when one or both people have wings. Wing-hugs are quite warm and comforting.

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MisfitWings In reply to AwesomeSauce5Yolo [2016-08-09 01:45:58 +0000 UTC]

Well, you can wrap your arms around their lower waist and theirs can go around your neck... or you could have your arms go around their ribs and kinda fold up between their wings. But with that your hands would probably have to go through some feathers... XD

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TwistedSailor In reply to MisfitWings [2016-09-07 18:52:53 +0000 UTC]

You have a point.

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reaperion [2016-01-29 15:03:13 +0000 UTC]

love it, do one with multiple tails

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shrouded-cuteness [2016-01-24 18:22:58 +0000 UTC]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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mipatafria [2016-01-13 13:07:18 +0000 UTC]

Haha the struggle is real.

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CopperCoatedPride [2015-12-03 01:22:06 +0000 UTC]

....Can't they fold them to at last more easily get around some of these problems?

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Remora12 [2015-09-22 02:48:36 +0000 UTC]

OH MY GOSH I really love this, he is so cute! I want to touch his lovely wing but Im quite sure he will react like on the invasive people drawing, hehehe, well I have to say that I absolutely love your artwork it's so beautiful, and spiring, all the details are just wonderful, and if you see any mistake Im really sorry, english is not my mother language hehe

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KitsuneNeko [2015-09-02 03:20:10 +0000 UTC]

This made me laugh so hard since I have a few winged characters... XD

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Turtle-Arts In reply to KitsuneNeko [2015-09-06 03:34:54 +0000 UTC]

Glad you enjoyed it!

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kingozzo [2015-03-25 22:57:25 +0000 UTC]

The Fantasy-esque solution?
RETRACTABLE WINGS OF COURSE!
Or, MAGIC WINGS THAT CAN TURN INTO A CAPE!

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Myrethy [2015-02-18 22:02:04 +0000 UTC]

Oh dear. It's adorable.

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Turtle-Arts In reply to Myrethy [2015-02-19 06:54:19 +0000 UTC]

THanks. :>

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urbangirl98 [2015-01-14 22:17:24 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha xD This is hilarious! (and something I've wondered on for a long time xD)

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Aisheyru-Fox [2014-10-13 21:22:36 +0000 UTC]

LOL! Too funny. :3 I would still want wings though. Totally would trump all problems. :3

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Turtle-Arts In reply to Aisheyru-Fox [2014-10-14 02:19:23 +0000 UTC]

True that. XD

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lilla-star [2014-09-05 16:59:36 +0000 UTC]

I was thinking about the whole "weight of wings" thing and it occured to me that wing bones would be hollow/porous. Probably the rest of his bones, too. so while his wings would be somewhat heavy, there would be extra muscle growth to compensate for that. Also, bird's feathers are coated in a type of natural oil which resists water, that's why you never see ducks or bathing birds unable to fly after having taken a bath. On that same note, that oil is rubbed off whenever you touch the feathers--probably another reason NOT to touch his wings Love your stuff, BTW, and I've found your tutorials to be very helpful.

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Turtle-Arts In reply to lilla-star [2014-09-05 17:47:47 +0000 UTC]

*sigh* Sorry, okay I really don't want to sound rude, but you don't know how many people have tried to point this out to me since I posted this image two years ago. I get kind of tired of it. >_<Β  I know how real birds are, and I know if winged humanoids existed they would have adaptations to compensate for a lot of these problems. They also probably wouldn't actually look quite like regular humans.Β  But this picture was done as a joke, mostly to poke fun at this particular character of mine, which is just a regular human with wings slapped on basically, which would not account for the added musculature/bone structure really needed for a "winged human." And the waterproofing comes from preening in most species, which young birds are notorious for not doing enough, meaning a young bird is more likely to get soaked. I have actually seen young birds fall into puddles and are then unable to fly until they dry out again. The "heavy when wet" joke comes from a personal reference to this character's story from when he was a child. But the "heavy" in general just comes from the fact that it would be difficult for a typical human to walk "normally" with that much counterweight on their back, even if just for the fact that it would throw off a person's natural sense of balance and wouldn't allow them to walk perfectly upright like these sorts of characters are usually depicted.

Ugh, sorry, I sound so mean. I promise I'm not, I'm just really tired of getting this same sort of message on this old post.

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lilla-star In reply to Turtle-Arts [2014-09-06 19:05:10 +0000 UTC]

I apologize!! I hadn't read far enough into the comments already posted and I neglected to look at the date it was posted at. I am so sorry--I should have thought about what I was going to say more before I made a comment. :C I really do like your stuff and I hope you'll forgive me for my obliviousness . . . . . . i feel super bad now.

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Turtle-Arts In reply to lilla-star [2014-09-06 19:16:38 +0000 UTC]

Nah, it's fine. I just get that same kind of message on this post a lot, even though it's like 2 years old. It gets kind of old after a while, you know? >_<Β  But no worries. :>

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NekoTheNecromancer [2014-07-28 09:14:15 +0000 UTC]

Delving even deeper into this black hole of fantasy mixed with science and engineering... Since a humanoid avian person would need really long and really wide wings, and one of my characters is a winged politician and would need proper seating for such a job, I came up with an idea for a sort of couch that has a slit at the back where normally the back would meet the seat. So with that they could angle their wing-ends through the hole in the couch and sit comfortably since the couch still has a back. Β However I do like the sling-hamick idea XDΒ 

Love your art style! You've got a new watcher ^^
(God, that sounds creepy...)

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Turtle-Arts In reply to NekoTheNecromancer [2014-07-28 16:48:47 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I think I've seen some chair designs like that. I've actually just sort of designed it so when this character actually sits, he folds his wings sideways if there's not enough spice behind him. Sort of like when a person sits with their ankles crossed to the side. If that makes sense. XD

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