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BassoeG [2018-11-13 00:14:41 +0000 UTC]
...the regular Deep Ones but I'm currently in design hell with them...
To be completely fair considering some of the biotech the deep ones must possess to create things like autonomous, self-replicating, swimming deep-one-ification retroviral gene therapy administration biodevices*, uplifted sharks, human hybrids, etc, I can totally imagine they've turned their biotech on themselves and speciated into who knows how many subtypes. So potentially all the designs could be accurate.
* Yuggya.
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ValhaHazred In reply to BassoeG [2018-11-13 03:29:28 +0000 UTC]
Totally. I see Deep Ones as pure oceanic biological chaos and they can look like all manner of sea monster. I just haven't made any I've been particularly happy with yet.
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Xhodocto385 [2018-11-07 01:33:24 +0000 UTC]
August Derleth made some good deities but ruined the eldritch aspect by making them fantasy elementals, the Derleth taint even affected video games themed around cosmic horror, by making the monsters stereotypically evil, the only game which is the exception is Bloodborne.
speaking of Ghatanothoa, the way it is said to look so wrong that it makes it's victims to be calcified by looking at the entity makes me think it's a Cognitohazard (a SCP Foundation term for any object that is harmful upon eye contact), how do you actually envision Ghatanothoa?, what is made of?.
and how do you view the Yuggya?, are these flatworm monsters extraterrestrial plus how do their organic darts work?.
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ValhaHazred In reply to Xhodocto385 [2018-11-07 02:30:04 +0000 UTC]
Agreed! Although they're usually not handled the best, I really wish there where more Mythos videogames. That's why I'm playing at designing one with all of these!
We're drowning in boardgames though, so there's that I suppose.
I think Ghatanothoa is an anti-shoggoth weapon. It's a basilisk-hack against shoggoth software that basically tells it to calcify and go dormant, which has remained effective all the way through our DNA. Basically it'll work on any Earth life. It'd be something like a shoggoth itself albeit one with a hard, scaly shell. It could unfold into a complex organic shape, that when processed by your brain triggers the mummification process.
The Yuggya are parasitic and intelligent reproductive organs released by very old Deep Ones like Ythogtha and Zoth-Ommog. Yuggya produce a retro-virus that remakes those it infects with DNA taken from their source.Β
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Xhodocto385 In reply to ValhaHazred [2018-11-07 02:44:52 +0000 UTC]
the Elder Things must have been good at creating the basilisk-hazard Ghatanothoa and not end up being calcified in the process.
there is also Ubb, the lord of the Yuggya, is Ubb a greater Ythogtha reproductive organ that commands the other sapient sex organs?.
also what kinds of interesting features does Ythogtha's single cyclopean eye has?, he must have hyper-spatial vision and awareness, and are it's fingertips still incredibly gigantic?.
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ValhaHazred In reply to Xhodocto385 [2018-11-07 03:12:23 +0000 UTC]
The hack wouldn't work on an Elder Thing, or any non-shoggothim entity.
I don't think I'd use Ubb to be honest. I think the whole race-lead-by-big-special-guy thing is overdone. Now, that said if I was going to make a special Yuggya I'd say Gloon is a mutant renegade one. That's mostly just my headcanon for why his minions all look like Zoth-Ommog for some reason.
Yeah, he can see Beyond. And fire lasers.
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BassoeG In reply to ValhaHazred [2018-11-13 00:10:03 +0000 UTC]
I think the whole race-lead-by-big-special-guy thing is overdone.
Think of it like this, for the Tsan-Chani, humanity has became such a species ourselves. What else do you consider the Kuen-Yuin to be? They're Sufficiently Analyzed Magic/maigtech augmented transhumans, potentially in the same manner that Dagon might have originally been a normal Deep One.
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ValhaHazred In reply to BassoeG [2018-11-13 03:17:47 +0000 UTC]
Not really?Β I'm talking about things like Shudde Mell and the Chthonians, where he's the direct progenitor of their species but literally only stands out because he's big and has a name. I just think it's kinda unnecessary when there's nothing really special or interesting about the leader. They only exist to give a figurehead to an otherwise faceless monster group.
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paireon In reply to ValhaHazred [2019-02-19 18:10:00 +0000 UTC]
Gotta admit I have a soft spot for Shudde-M'ell, personally, because Cthonians are one of the only good things about Brian Lumley's Mythos contributions; most of his stuff is otherwise almost unsalvageable due to him out-Derlething Derleth when it comes to fitting the whole shebang into a standard clichΓ© "Good-VS-Evil" fantasy-style dichotomy (I mean, come on, Cthulhu having a good twin brother!? Humans being instrumental in the Elder Gods' plans to defeat the Great Old Ones, and ultimately WINNING!? WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING I DON'T EVEN).
Given the post-singularity/bio-tech angle you're going with, Shudde-M'ell could be a rogue Elder Thing seismic bioweapon that reached sapience (likely a non-Shoggoth strain to mix things up as I doubt Elder Things would put all their eggs in the same basket), and the rest of the Cthonian species are its imperfect clonal offspring. That also would explain the enmity towards Deep Ones/Dagonites that they tend to be portrayed as having.
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ValhaHazred In reply to paireon [2019-02-19 21:08:59 +0000 UTC]
The Chthonians are definitely Lumley's best idea. I don't object to their existence in general and may even include them in here at some point.
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Xhodocto385 In reply to ValhaHazred [2018-11-08 14:35:59 +0000 UTC]
understood, also is Dagon's obelisk still a thing in your take on Dagon?, the obelisk depicted many deep ones.
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ValhaHazred In reply to Xhodocto385 [2018-11-08 16:47:57 +0000 UTC]
I mean the Deep Ones do make obelisks with artwork on them. The story itself still happened. Is there supposed to something special about it?
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Xhodocto385 In reply to ValhaHazred [2018-11-08 20:17:16 +0000 UTC]
about the obelisks, nope, be glad these don't drive you insane.
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BassoeG In reply to Xhodocto385 [2018-11-07 02:16:12 +0000 UTC]
and how do you view the Yuggya?, are these flatworm monsters extraterrestrial plus how do their organic darts work?.
An unsubstantiated fan theory, they're as native to earth as we are. The terrestrial biosphere began with malfunctioning Elder Thing biotech replicating cancerously, natural selection eventually causing some of them to become multicellular .
The yuggya descended from shoggoth leftovers, just like us, however they're been on an entirely separate course of evolution for 3.5 billion years. Rather than reproducing conventionally, they've hijacked buried leftover coding from our shoggoth ancestry for their own purposes. Their darts contain a hormonal "reboot" message to revert our shoggoth nanites/cells to their original factory settings, then reinstruct them to develop into an entirely different creature, specifically, a yuggya. Or at least, something with yuggya-ish traits, capable of producing yuggya-ifying darts of its own.
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ValhaHazred In reply to BassoeG [2018-11-07 02:36:58 +0000 UTC]
This is also good!
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