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Published: 2011-09-01 01:56:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 4712; Favourites: 52; Downloads: 62
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Description I strongly dislike (ie. hate) morons who think that pointing out canon in fanarts and fanfictions is the height of cleverness

I was going to write a lengthy rant about Craptains Obnoxiouses in the artist's comments, but I think my rantcomic above speaks for itself

And yes, any inconsistencies in the comic are intentional

Koph = Korra + Toph clever uh?
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Comments: 163

vick330 In reply to ??? [2014-03-19 18:41:34 +0000 UTC]

This is intended as a huge, massive, of biblical proportions caricature. I do respect other people's opinions, but when a fanart is clearly a parody, and thus not to be taken seriously, if someone gets offended because it is not canon I feel that person is just actively looking to be offended. Β That is far from healthy in my most humble opinion.

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Jerson4321 [2012-03-16 05:06:57 +0000 UTC]

Great artwork, it made me laugh

However, the more i read Naruto the more I'm beginning to think that SasuNaru is actually a canon pairing. But that remains to be seen.

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vick330 In reply to Jerson4321 [2012-03-16 23:23:56 +0000 UTC]

I feel that Naruto's obsession with Sasuke is a little suspicious

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AngelsKarith [2012-02-25 21:44:06 +0000 UTC]

Freaking Hilarious Korra and Toph look really cute to

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vick330 In reply to AngelsKarith [2012-02-26 21:02:09 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, I was in chibi-drawing mood at the time

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AngelsKarith In reply to vick330 [2012-02-27 09:09:58 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome I love chibis <3 ^^

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Noin7 [2012-01-25 12:12:28 +0000 UTC]

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vick330 In reply to Noin7 [2012-01-26 01:03:42 +0000 UTC]

There is an actual Cp.Obvious... I should have known

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Noin7 In reply to vick330 [2012-01-26 11:52:43 +0000 UTC]

I didn't quite know if there were a plz of it, that's why the second one faild ^_^
But every captain obvious is for the WIN
The other one is always there, after an accident:
Like, you know that cruise ship that capsized and the captain was the first one on the lifeboat?
*captain obvious flying to the people on the beach in front of the accident*
This ship shouldn't have gone that close to the shores with its cliffs in the first place
*captain obvious flyes away & the people on the beach are yelling at him*
Thank you captain obvious!

Your captain obvious is more like a captain predictable,
he's telling what will happen, which is much MUCH more usefull!

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vick330 In reply to Noin7 [2012-01-27 02:31:55 +0000 UTC]

That's because there's more than one Cp.Obvious, the one with the only lurks around fanarts pointing out obvious canon

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Sora200 [2011-11-29 00:03:43 +0000 UTC]

Not really that clever. I don't point out the obvious because I think I'm more clever than anyone. I just hate it when pairings like Katarra/Azula pop up. It's the most stupidest pairing I've ever heard of. A better fan pairing would've been Zutarra, but that died off with the introduction of Tenzin.

It's not that it's more clever to point out the obvious flaws in ridiculous pairings, it's just that people that make ridiculous pairings obviously ignore the obvious fact that some pairings could never work.

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vick330 In reply to Sora200 [2011-11-30 02:39:21 +0000 UTC]

You're obviously missing the point, which is that ridiculous pairings, otherwise known as crackpairings, are actually supposed to be very ridiculous and improbable, if not impossible.

If you dislike a pairing you have a right to your opinion, and I'll be the last to deny that right to anyone. But pointing out the obvious, or flaws, or how silly according to canon a crackpairing is becomes an exercise in futility since by definition a crackpairing is not supposed to follow canon

If I happen on a fanwork depicting a paring I fell strongly against, I simply ignore it. The artist has a right to express themselves, and I have better things to do than pick fights about imaginary characters.

This to say, don't take fanart or fanfiction seriously, for they're not meant to be

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Sora200 In reply to vick330 [2011-11-30 03:02:51 +0000 UTC]

Ok, but like I said about this comic in my last reply, I expressed my opinions and this other artist made fun of me and essentially called me a troll by linking me to this comic. I'm not a troll! Trolls just do what they do just to piss people off. I don't do it for that reason.

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vick330 In reply to Sora200 [2011-11-30 03:32:34 +0000 UTC]

No, you didn't mean to troll but you did point out canon in a crackship, which actually illustrates the point of my Captain Obvious comic quite eloquently.

Even though it's not your intention to piss people off, that's exactly what you'll accomplish, because the message you're sending (unintentionally as it might be) is that you are right and they are wrong.

And really, is it that important after all? I personally don't go around looking for reasons to be offended, because believe you me there's no lack of them to be had. Please don't take fanworks so seriously, by definition they're not meant to.

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Sora200 In reply to vick330 [2011-12-03 01:09:42 +0000 UTC]

I don't tollerate being made fun of. > I see your point, but still.

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vick330 In reply to Sora200 [2011-12-03 02:27:42 +0000 UTC]

Here's my advice. Expressing your dislike or hatred of a crackship in a fanart of that crackship is not the right place to do so. Unless otherwise stated by the author of the fanart, it is not a statement open to discussion, but something done for the fun of it.

Remember that when someone makes a fanart of a crackship, they are fully aware that it is an improbable, or impossible, or even silly pairing. Since that is the point of the fanart, expressing dislike for it and quoting canon are literally pointing out the obvious.

But you could do so in your journal here at Deviantart, or make a topic in a message board, or even post a text or anti-fanart of your own in your gallery. Just be aware that, unlike someone doing it for fun, you will be making a statement akin to an editorial. You will thus have to accept both approval and disapproval.

I believe you when you say it wasn't your intention to troll, so don't dwell on the incident for it wasn't personal. Remember that it's pointless to start arguments on the issue of crackpairings.

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Sora200 In reply to vick330 [2011-12-03 02:53:37 +0000 UTC]

Ok.

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moehoshi [2011-10-16 08:27:05 +0000 UTC]

THIS!!! β™₯β™₯β™₯
All HAIL Fanon / Crack. ; u ;

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vick330 In reply to moehoshi [2011-10-20 23:47:03 +0000 UTC]

All bow to crackpairings

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Lord-Azeran [2011-10-03 09:17:05 +0000 UTC]

This. You win for this

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vick330 In reply to Lord-Azeran [2011-10-05 00:48:29 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, I was inspired by all the retarded out there, who are in dire need of getting a life.

I hope that Korra and Toph kissing will make their little hollow heads explode

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Azutara [2011-10-03 09:14:57 +0000 UTC]

he he he! Thanks for this dude, I got a moron in my gallery recently that it's a perfect Captain Obvious

I just dedicated this pic to him

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vick330 In reply to Azutara [2011-10-05 00:47:09 +0000 UTC]

This is dedicated to all morons, retards and canontards out there. May they live long lives, for it will give them more time to actually get one, and perhaps even enjoy it

I hope the kiss at the end will drive all crazy

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Azutara In reply to vick330 [2011-10-05 04:46:59 +0000 UTC]

he he he! I'm sure it did

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Demon-Bender [2011-09-16 07:44:18 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for making this and I completely agree with you. I think that in nearly all cases (like 99.999%) a person who is drawing fanart or writing fanfiction will know whether or not their pairings are canon. And of course, they don't need obnoxious Captain Obvious types to say, "OMG Not Canon." And seriously, I hate it when people ignore the fan- prefix. Fanart and fanfiction are by definition not canon. Even if I write fanfics about Maiko, they're still not canon even if I'm writing about a canon pairing.

It's also entirely possible to write a canon pairing and make the characters more incredibly out of character than a person who wrote those same characters and but in non-canon pairings. I'm sure that everyone here can think up their own examples of this.

About the actual art, it is very pretty. And Koph actually does sound like fun even if it could never realistically work. To be honest, I didn't want to ship anything from the Korra series until it actually came out, but now I think I mildly ship Koph an Korra/Yue thanks to the fanart on this site. I like how you depicted the internet troll as well and adult!Toph is very pretty.

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vick330 In reply to Demon-Bender [2011-09-17 01:11:38 +0000 UTC]

The internet Troll was created by and since he seems to be OK with people borrowing it, I thought it was appropriate for the message in my comic

I personally think all is fair in fanworks, as long as the characters are kept in character, or there is some justification for their actions. I made this comic because I am fed up with know-it-all morons, who not only fail to grasp that I make mostly parodies, but think they have a right to insult me.

As for the Koph ship, it just popped up in my head as such an impossible and silly one, it would make any 's head explode

And I do believe that will become a beautiful woman, but always remain a tomboy. I actually love tomboys, I married one

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Demon-Bender In reply to vick330 [2011-09-17 05:10:00 +0000 UTC]

So that's where the internet troll face comes from! I also agree that trollface is very appropriate for this comic and that Koph would make any troll's head explode. And yes, all is fair game in fanworks, but I do like some explanation for the character's actions in fanfics like you do. This of course applies to both canon and non-canon pairings, as well as fics that don't have any pairings. I guess I just like enjoyable fanfics that make sense, at least on some level.

Trolls are amusing, like the ones who think that they're the greatest person in the world because their pairing is canon but they don't know that grammar and spell check exist. No one will be able to read their story without getting a migraine due to it not remotely resembling English, but hey, the pairing is canon and that is what matters and what makes the writer The Best Person In The World Ever.

Actually, an even better troll is the one who pulls the "It's not canon" card when it's a non-canon pairing that they don't like but they themselves ship non-canon pairings. Remember kids, people who ship non-canon pairings are evil and are ruining the fandom, unless of course it's a non-canon pairing that you happen to like, in which case it's okay. Gotta love the hypocrisy.

Also, I agree that Toph will probably be very pretty as an adult, and she is a tomboy for life. After all, she was happy about being depicted as a muscly guy in The Ember Island Players. I think it's sad that people troll your parodies, especially the Avatar ones since the creators of that show apparently do like parodies. As I mentioned, there was the Ember Island Players episode. I think I need to check out your other art.

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vick330 In reply to Demon-Bender [2011-09-18 21:22:55 +0000 UTC]

I used to write fanfics, but gave up when fanfiction.net became a troll-nest and it's exactly as you put it, everything they don't like is wrong, but their own rules don't apply to themselves

That reminds me of a guy who though his fanfics were pure genius, but they had so many words misspelled they were torture to read. One day he actually emailed me and pretty much demanded I read and review his fics. I replied something along the lines of, "Like you, English is not my first language, so I recommend you use spellcheck and I'll be glad to proofread your work."

Was he ever insulted! He replied, "English is my first language, and I do use spillcheck" years later I still laugh at the "spillcheck"

I'm lucky I haven't had to deal with many here at DA. Mostly it's been people who don't like the couples I draw, or try to make me draw what they want, or think my drawings are not very good

I don't give much thought, since their comments are rude and uneducated. Furthermore I make no claims of being a great artist, for I'm fully aware that I am an amateur and what I do I do for fun, so although I want to improve I'm not at a professional level.

And now with all this talk of adult Toph, I think I will draw her with more care in a future fanart

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Demon-Bender In reply to vick330 [2011-09-18 22:25:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I don't write many fanfics, but that has more to do with me being lazy than trolls. The only things I've written are a parody of bad Sailor Moon fanfiction and a drabble about Adam Monroe from Heroes. I'm attempting to write something for the Dragon Kink meme, but it's not going well. (I can't write smut.) I have gotten a couple of trolls reviewing the Sailor Moon story, but I also got someone who is a really good Sailor Moon writer posting a review that replied to the troll telling him/her to fuck off (but in a very sophisticated way.) So that was nice.

But yeah, fanfiction.net is a big website, so it's not surprising that it has a lot of trolls. I'll have to remember "spillcheck" since it is funny. I'm surprised English is your second language since you write so well. In fact, you write better than a lot of people I know who allegedly speak English as a first language.

I do see a lot of people who leave nasty comments on this site and pretty much anywhere because they don't like the pairing the author wrote about or drew fanart for. There's lots of pairings that I hate, but I just ignore them and look at fanfiction and fanart for the pairings that I do like.

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vick330 In reply to Demon-Bender [2011-09-19 01:27:38 +0000 UTC]

My advice is to keep writing, as it becomes easier and more enjoyable the more you do And English is actually the 3rd language I learned, and that is how I ended up at fanfiction.net.

At the time I was looking for ways to improve my vocabulary and writing skills, and fanfiction seemed as a fun way to do so. It also helps that between all that, I met and married into an English-speaking family. I consider myself very fortunate that Life has gifted me with such opportunities to learn

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nerdfighter13812 [2011-09-14 05:33:00 +0000 UTC]

Seriously, it's fan stuff, so people should never get too worked up. To be honest, I will go off an a rant sometimes when someone actually tries to argue why their ship is canon, but only then. Like, "Oh my gosh, Tenzin is totally Zuko's son!" Yeah, I'm so sure. Write fanfics all you want, but if I want to insult the idea that it actually makes sense and you try to tell me it's perfectly logical.. yeah have fun with that.

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vick330 In reply to nerdfighter13812 [2011-09-17 00:57:28 +0000 UTC]

It's too bad some people convince themselves their opinion is the right one, and that they hold The Truth. Fanworks are supposed to be fun, and in my case if I truly don't like something, due to purely personal preferences, I pass by and live and let live.

Unfortunately out there can't leave the rest of us, who actually have lives, alone

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Puppy-eater [2011-09-11 12:07:03 +0000 UTC]

The sad part is, both sides of the canon/fanon war act like this.
Why can't we all just love?
Also, I love the epic randomness of korra + toph.

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vick330 In reply to Puppy-eater [2011-09-11 16:14:45 +0000 UTC]

Some people should try getting a life, but it takes more work than going around bitching about things

And I made another Koph ship comic [link] , I couldn't resist

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Puppy-eater In reply to vick330 [2011-09-13 14:21:53 +0000 UTC]

I love how you create such awesome absurdity, but still manage to keep Toph in-character.

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vick330 In reply to Puppy-eater [2011-09-14 01:20:09 +0000 UTC]

Absurdity works better when spiced by a little reality

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pyromaniac831 [2011-09-08 20:56:08 +0000 UTC]

very nicely done. Just for once please people go with the fan art, screw reality let us have our fantasies

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vick330 In reply to pyromaniac831 [2011-09-08 23:39:14 +0000 UTC]

Aye, live and let live and let us have our ships sailing happily

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pyromaniac831 In reply to vick330 [2011-09-09 20:38:47 +0000 UTC]

GO KOPH!!!!!!!!!

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vick330 In reply to pyromaniac831 [2011-09-10 16:37:05 +0000 UTC]

Another Koph comic coming up soon

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pyromaniac831 In reply to vick330 [2011-09-10 17:42:20 +0000 UTC]

YAYS!!!!!

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Cartoon-Trash [2011-09-08 11:00:08 +0000 UTC]

I tend to ship canon, but... it's not like I run around writing 'LIEK, OMGZ IZ NOT SPOSSED TO HAPENZ!!!!!' That sort of thing IS just rude, and anyway, non-canon ships aren't HURTING me. It's just not my thing. The ending is amazing, by the way.

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vick330 In reply to Cartoon-Trash [2011-09-08 23:37:35 +0000 UTC]

I'm open to all ships, no matter how much or little sense they make

As you say, it's not hurting you or anyone else, but there are out there on the lookout for reasons to feel offended. I actually pity them (a little).

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Cartoon-Trash In reply to vick330 [2011-09-09 00:17:26 +0000 UTC]

this is very true. I actually sort of like crack shippings. The wackiest ones are pretty hilarious.

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vick330 In reply to Cartoon-Trash [2011-09-10 16:32:28 +0000 UTC]

And who is to say they wouldn't work out for real?

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WildGreenie [2011-09-07 06:34:29 +0000 UTC]

i agree. i'll like anything you draw, even it's zuko and the frog making out, as long as you draw it. all ships are very welcome!
on the other side, i don't really like fanfiction when the figures act out of character.
it buggs me and i wish to say : 'azula is not meek and timid if you wish to wrote about such a chararter, dont name her azula' or 'zuko is not a funy miroku-style leacher ...
and so on but i restrain myself, as it is ff after all...

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vick330 In reply to WildGreenie [2011-09-08 00:04:28 +0000 UTC]

I agree that fanworks must keep characters in character, otherwise it's just a story about OCs that happen to look like, and bear the same names as popular characters.

If I ever see a story where Azula acts meekly, there better be an extremely well-written character development to justify it. Not something along the lines of going, "It's a new day, I guess I'll follow Zuko's example and be good from now on."

And even though my stuff is mostly parodies, tell me if I show characters way out of character please

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WildGreenie In reply to vick330 [2011-09-09 12:47:11 +0000 UTC]

oh no, your parodies are very much in character
you don't need me 4 constructive c. but if(in the highly unlikely case) should the opportunity present itself i'll gladly play captain obvious ))

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vick330 In reply to WildGreenie [2011-09-10 16:36:40 +0000 UTC]

OK

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BiPotterFan [2011-09-03 07:06:37 +0000 UTC]

Awesome! The canon troll personified. Whether you prefer canon or fanon, live and let live.

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