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Hey guys, I just... *sigh* I dunno. My heart is heavy. I'm in a point of life when I'm not a student anymore and I want (need) to make money off of my art. But I feel so insecure every time I'm about to open commissions. Like, what if nobody's interested, what if my prices are too high or too low, what if people see me as greedy because I open commissions so often, or what if I promote my Patreon too much and they see me as some jerk who just wants to make money out of other people?

Or am I thinking too much again? Does anyone of you struggle with this? What should I do???   

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Comments: 19

Velgarn [2019-08-27 02:40:01 +0000 UTC]

No need to feel insecure at all. I have various Artist Friends such as Stepandy and ReggaeCyp which they often do commissions and have their own prices based on what they draw, like the usual sketch - lineart - flat colors - full colors 'n such.
If you are not sure if your price is too high or low, just take a look at other artit's prices so you can get an idea. For example if is common for artists to sell sketches at 10 Euros, sell sketches at 10 Euros, if they sell full colored drawings at 35 then do so.
Also if you are well loved by people and open commissions often it means that more people would be able to get a commissions.

PS: Opening a Patreon is also nice, you did good doing so

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Ben-Del [2019-08-24 00:50:50 +0000 UTC]

Art is your craft. Your means of surviving. And you're damn good at it too. Not just horses either.

I'm assuming you've already looked into ones options in art related majors?

If you're a jerk for wanting money then JEEZ DUDE guess we can't make money no more better go quit my job.

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Bark-N-Grime [2019-08-23 21:35:04 +0000 UTC]

Everyone need money so dont worry about it. People know artist need to eat and have a roof over their head too! Its not greedy and i think people will who follow will be happy to see your art is seeling well. It's a friend who showed me your commission journal recently and i loved what i saw right away. I also agree with PorcelanowyOkular  the small raise in your commissions prices would be acceptable and worth it. Dont lower them except if you want to do a special discount (like for holidays) but those are not really obligatory, its more if you feel like doing more work.

Patreon is a very good way for people who cant afford full commission to support and artist they like! I'm myself supporting a few artist on there and nothing make me more happy than seeing them be able to 100% focus on what they love. If you dont already have one a Ko-fi is also nice to have, sometime you dont have enough to give montly so being able to throw some tips here and there is nice. (or even have a small commissions widget on your page to give tips, have it set at something low like 100points. It dont seems much at first but i'm sure people would be happy to have the option since you can convert those points to real money)

Sorry this turned into a sugestion on how to get more money but i think you deserv it! Dont worry about others, it's not greedy to want a confortable life. I strugle with my commission prices too but i also knew from the start i didnt want to make art my job since i prefer to draw for myself and for fun. But i still have a good job and i get paid for what i do! And if i have some needs of money i talk to my bosses and we come to a concencius. The good thing here is that you are your own boss! So you can choose what is worth working on~

Stay positive, dont stress too much and keep having fun while drawing. 
(Also sorry for my bad gramar today i'm too tired to english proprely. At least i didnt use any french words, i think XD)

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WolfieDrawie In reply to Bark-N-Grime [2019-08-24 23:04:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your tips! These are super helpful and welcome! I like the idea of seasonal discounts. As for the patreon, I do have one. You can see the link on my profile page (I'm using the phone app now and link sharing is difficult). I don't have ko-fi but I may look into it.
Once again thank you for your help! ❤❤❤

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Arsevere [2019-08-23 18:43:23 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry, you're not the only one that has struggled with feeling this way Especially after recently graduating, things can feel weird or directionless. But don't overthink it! There's nothing wrong with opening commissions often, and pricing is almost never perfect to start with (as you do it more, you'll get an idea for how much work you feel is worth a certain price). Just keep going and don't let yourself get discouraged! You have many fans and supporters, so I'm sure you'll do fine :)

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WolfieDrawie In reply to Arsevere [2019-08-24 22:58:26 +0000 UTC]

Thank you ❤ I've been on this site for quite some time and I felt really bad every time I opened the commissions but I never said a word. Sharing my feelings was a bit challenging for me but now I see there are many super kind helpful people among my followers. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. It definitely boosted my confidence!

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Arsevere In reply to WolfieDrawie [2019-08-25 00:38:50 +0000 UTC]

No problem!! Glad you could share and get it worked out. I plan on getting a commission from you again in the future btw, so no need to feel bad <3 your art is very unique and welcome here~

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imge1608 [2019-08-23 11:27:03 +0000 UTC]

Don't be ridiculous. Art is not just an hobby. You need to live and eat you know. Besides it's not against the law to make prices too low or too high. This is your art, your product. No one can tell you for how much you should take for commisions since it will only effect you . Even if it effects you badly you can change the it afterwards. Just don't act on every other peoples feelings or thoughts. Think this as most benefitial for yourself. These insecurities will cease in time with experience and few mistakes.

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WolfieDrawie In reply to imge1608 [2019-08-23 13:59:17 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, I tend to overthink a lot. I'm aware of all these facts. It makes sense, there's logic to it. But then there are these stupid feelings I don't know how to deal with.

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imge1608 In reply to WolfieDrawie [2019-08-23 15:22:10 +0000 UTC]

That's pretty normal to feel those feelings, calling them stupid and would only decrease your self- confidence. I assure you, you will overcome those once you start acting. I get anxious whenever I'm in front of the class speaking or even writing (it even happened today) and sometimes my anxiety says "yeah don't do it what if I do something stupid" but then i think about showing what I'm capable of. I first feel very anxious in front of the class but moments later i feel great for managing something by myself. Even if I fail i'd be proud of myself for overcoming my anxiety and it encourages me to talk more in class. At the end it's always worth it.

All I'm saying is those feelings may seem annoying to you, but at the end they make the reward more meaningful or encourage you to improve yourself. It's all about perspective and self respect.

Sorry if it seems like a lame motivational advice you always hear from other people but i think it's worth mentioning if it will help.

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WolfieDrawie In reply to imge1608 [2019-08-24 22:50:28 +0000 UTC]

No, it's absolutely true and I'm glad you said that. You know sometimes you I have to hear the obvious (many times usually) so it can truly reach the core.

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imge1608 In reply to WolfieDrawie [2019-08-25 09:39:32 +0000 UTC]

Happy to be helpful then ^^

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Ampraeh [2019-08-23 10:56:31 +0000 UTC]

I fell excatly the same : In june i finished my last year in a comic/illustration school. Now I'm supposed to research an editor who could publish me. But it's so hard, and I don't know what to do except opening commissions too   (and it's not really helping to improve my art skill in what i am supposed to do : some stories, comics, illustration books ...). I don't even have a patreon to help me, and my community is too small to allow me to live in freelace...
My parents want me to find a job in a fast food, but I don't want to. I mean, I worked hard to live with my passion, like you !

I don't know if you'll read my comment, but I want to say Cheer Up ! I adore your art, you are so much talented than me, you could find easily if you contact some illustrators edition houses ! Since I'm in the same situation I think we can support each other, if ya need to talk don't hesitate !

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WolfieDrawie In reply to Ampraeh [2019-08-23 13:53:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I absolutely feel you, I remember I was so scared when I left high school and I did not know how to even look for work as an illustrator. Now I'm looking for a part-time job so I can still do the art, but it's hard. I've been trying for half a year now with zero success.

Anyway, your art is amazing! You should not put yourself down like this. Thank you for being so kind  

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Ampraeh In reply to WolfieDrawie [2019-08-28 08:55:59 +0000 UTC]

Arg I know how complicated it is... ;; with a side job, having time to make some serious art project is hard because it's difficult to develop it quickly (and in my opinion i feel like losing my time). Hope you'll be good in your projects, i wish you good luck again and a nice day ! 
(and omg thank you so much you made my day, for sure ! ♥ that's soo kind!)

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PorcelanowyOkular [2019-08-23 10:25:56 +0000 UTC]

Wolfie, don't worry! Tons of other people on this planet need to make money and if drawing is their stronger point, they'll want to use it to earn some money for life!
It's happening everywhere, on every site, so it is a normal, casual and understandable thing to do!!

Your art is truerly first class, the gourmet one. You put so much work into your colouring and shading to make it look like an illustration from a stunning fantasy book! Your own style is so unique, I never saw anything like this before! Your supportes and watchers will definitely agree with me.

You need to value your time you put into making those pieces! You need to value your hard work! If people gonna have a bit of emapthy in their hearts, they won't complain about your prices, because tbh, only these greedy and/or jelous ones are. Others will want to show you their support!

If you're not too sure about how much should your artwork cost, then you can ask your art pals here and there, compare their prices to yours, or just look at other artists price list, to have some understanding in it! Don't be too cheap, because then people might use you too much and you won't feel motivated to draw anymore! Yet don't be too pricey - imagine if you were a customer and how much you'd pay for such a piece of work. It's all about the golden mean!


I do struggle with such dilemmas, I'm afraid that my art is too pricey, yet I really need money for my studies. So, you're not alone, don't worry x3
If you want to, feel free to note me and I can help you with your prices if in doubt!

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WolfieDrawie In reply to PorcelanowyOkular [2019-08-23 13:45:32 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for your kind words. Yeah, I can imagine a lot of people struggle with this as well and I guess it comes to everyone once they choose this path. I'd love to know what do you think about my prices if you have the time:  commission types30 minutes - 15$
one character onlyportrait only I need a good reference picture of the character for this type of commission
  
1 hour - 30$
additional character +15$I usually do: fully rendered portrait/ multiple character portrait/ rather sketchy full body with background/ fully rendered landscape I need a good reference picture of the character for this type of commissionAlternatively, I can design a character for you based on your description and assemble a character sheet. I can make you one full body painting and some close-up sketches: portrait, some specific details (wings/paws/etc.)
    

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PorcelanowyOkular In reply to WolfieDrawie [2019-08-23 15:33:32 +0000 UTC]

My suggestions:

30 mins - 25$ ( those fast pieces are looking AMAZING and SO PROFESIONAL! )
1 h - 40$ ( they look like full illustrations!! )
3 h - you can pick 60$ even! they're even more polished!!
5 h - perfect :3

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WolfieDrawie In reply to PorcelanowyOkular [2019-08-24 22:52:54 +0000 UTC]

Oh, thank you so so much! I'll consider the suggested changes and maybe try them out to see if it would work. You are a darling ❤

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