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Published: 2013-09-07 09:09:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 84197; Favourites: 1966; Downloads: 164
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Just a thing from my tumblr I wanted to share.And just to make things clear - yes, I'm aware that they are both men and women saying those words to other women. Not only men can be opressive, I know that. And I know that this "burning bras" thing never actually happened, but this is what many many people associate feminism with and this is what I am talking about here.
Oh, and I'm superglad if you never heard those words and never been hurt this way, but only because you were lucky and grew up in a friendly society doesn't mean it's always like that. Here, in Poland, for example, we have a huge problem with that. And not only with unkind words and being rude - but with serious violence. Here, have some statistics about Poland:
38% of public prosecutors and 45% of policemen thinks that woman can not stop unwanted sexual contact if she once agreed, and if she did, she can not report it as a crime.
11% of all polish people thinks that this is not rape if the men was victim's husband.
29% of public prosecutors and 39% of policemen thinks that this is not rape if victim was forced to have sexual contact other way then by physical violence.
18% of public prosecutorsans 32% of policemen thinks that this is not rape if Β victim was forced to have sexual contacy by physical violence.
That means that for about 20% of public prosecutors and 40% of policemen there is no such thing as rape crime because there's no such kind of behavior they would treat as rape.
Source (polish only): www.feminoteka.pl/downloads/doβ¦
Sorry, I had to delete earlier statistics about rape on unconscious women because I couldn't find the source of those statistics and I don't want to mislead anyone.
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Witch hunt? Seriously?
It's a special kind of sad when the media constantly states how anti-feminists are evil and feminists can silence us with impunity, but apparently, it's feminists who are unjustly persecuted.
Give me a fucking break.
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"Crapcrap" - Nomen est omen.
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Said by someone who can't make a counter worth a damn, but doesn't wanna admit they're wrong.
How pathetic.
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Damn, and I thought I was lazy.
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Thank you for this thought provoking and necessary work.
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"Thought-provoking" and "necessary" are the last words I would use to describe this.
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38% of public prosecutors and 45% of policemen thinks that woman can not stop unwanted sexual contact if she once agreed, and if she did, she can not report it as a crime.
- Uh... if she agreed and it's starting and going on... how does that become unwanted sexual contact? I mean, in midst of the act, I'm not refering to a relationship cut short by whatever reason.
11% of all polish people thinks that this is not rape if the men was victim's husband.
- That is a reaaaaaaally small minority compared to the world. I don't see how feminists are going to change a minority.
29% of public prosecutors and 39% of policemen thinks that this is not rape if victim was forced to have sexual contact other way then by physical violence.
- I don't believe that number is true and if it is, that is the minority and that is the reason there are higher courts.
That means that for about 20% of public prosecutors and 40% of policemen there is no such thing as rape crime because there's no such kind of behavior they would treat as rape.
- Uh, how can you tell? Those numbers don't really make mathematical sense... there must be a rate of exclusion missing there. Also, believing or not, the law is not based on belief. The highest ranking judges take rape VERY seriously.
Statistics from a feminist site are about as trustworthy as a back alley candyvendor... in a van... with "free candy" painted in black on the side of said van... at night...
I did watch your work and they were progressive, skillful, witty and smart. This picture and it's description are showing a decline of that smart thing you got going on there. I mean, the problems in this drawing...
The first from the top left is not a female problem, it's a fat problem... no pun intended. Both sexes have that.
Next one on the right is a no-brainer. If a woman is wearing a seemingly slooty, uncomfortable getup, it IS safe to assume that she wants to get attention. Why would ANYONE want to go out into public looking OUT OF PLACE if they don't want to be noticed? (by both the majority of non-rapists and the minority of actual rapists, which INCLUDE female rapists!) The slur "slut" I do not condone, I don't like slurs, but if the slur is not a lie, it is used for a reason, which is to CRITICIZE, not to disrespect.
Next one has more to do with paranoia from the opposite sex. You know, the paranoid nerd, who still can't believe that a girl actually likes the same thing they do, because of the unjust and very unfair social dynamics that are ruining the lives of male nerds and are affecting female nerds just that bit less.(I'm not expanding on this, it's complicated, but fact is still, feminism has nothing to do with this one either.)
The next one is a selfesteem issue, again, not a feminist issue. Slooty getups and slutty behavior is the desciding factors for those slurs, again, to express opinionated criticizm against those things. These forms of social pressure is used to act on the persons "social drive" as I like to call it, so that the one getting criticized changes those things about themselves. Why isn't this a feminist issue exactly? Well, I don't posess this thing I call "social drive" I don't pursue to please everyones opinion and guess what happened to me! I was a wee lad and I got physically assaulted BY GIRLS! And I was a head taller than them and I was a very patient MAN, because I didn't break their necks for that, even though I could have done that. Where is MY masculinism when I needed it then, huh?
The housewife! Oh, what I wouldn't give for a world, where I could sit at home all day, doing those household chores, taking care of my children if my wife would go to work instead of me. But society would chastize me for it. Good thing I don't give a frilly willy about what anyone thinks, ey? Also, if a woman, ANY woman in my vicinity gets pregnant, they are congratulated, not chastized. What is in that picture is something I consider being in fringe locations around the world, where there is some kind of rift into another universe.
Oh man! The last one if flat out wrong! The only time someone is saying that, is when the houswife trope gets reversed(househusband) and the wife goes to work AAALL the time, never seeing her children. Which is considered PROGRESSIVE and not to be muddied with such insults! Interesting, ey?
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So, i don't see how this could come from such a smart artist like yourself. It just doesn't fit...
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True story. What a shame for mankind. -.-
And I am a male, who say this.
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"Smh poor husband does your husband get hated at every day? DOES ANY BOY GET HATED AT? DO THEY?"
Ah yes, women and girls get hated at so much. Men and boys have it so much better, don't they? I mean, why else would men and boys commit suicide 4 times more than women and girls do?
Oh wait...
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Yeah, listen
I know I know I was an idiot during that time and I'm sorry. I'll take down the comment and I would have if I had even remember it, but to you and everyone who got offended by my stupidity, I'm sorry.
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I feel like the rules for women in life are that if you're fat you're ugly, but if you're skinny you're a slut...that's why I actually feel like I'm too skinny, I don't want people to think that I starve myself or I'm trying to show off...I wish there were no insecurities in life and people could just live the way they are without being judged.
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In a perfect world... which will never exist. And people will always think burping and farting are unladylike. No matter how far we progress.
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Nie wiem, jak to robisz, ale Εwietnie ilustrujesz wszelkie moje bulwersje na temat wspΓ³Εczesnego Εwiata. Oby tak dalej, trzymaj siΔ :3
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Loving your work!...er... no explanations should be necessary to anyone vaguely civilised and aware/insightful.... btw: Bras were, in fact, burnt! 
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This so called "war" is ridiculous
People ask for respect
Do they get it?
Most of the time, no
It shows that at least 40% of the human population are idiots and close-minded
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I don't mind girls dressing up as whores and sluts, I'm totally okay with that! But if they bitch about be looking at their tits almost dropping out and get angry at me, then I'll probably call them whores and sluts... they asked for it!
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Well said and drawn. I wish this wasn't true though...
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rozumiem ΕΌe sΔ
ludzie i taborety ale to juΕΌ lekka przesada...
ale zdajΔ sobie sprawΔ ΕΌe tak bywa i jestem wdziΔczny ze pokazaΕa to pani ludziom. I taboretom.
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I totally get this. When I'm being feminine I'm trying to hard to get guys, but when I'm being masculine I'm STILL trying to hard to get guys. It would be great if people just chose one and stuck to it. Btw Complete supporter of both your art and feminism!
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Hate when things like this happen, and they happen a lot, sadly. I even saw how parents treat their children in similar way. And I know how horrible oppression can be.
About wrong definition of feminism: the idea, real intention of the originator, in any cases isnβt shared by everyone equally. That leads to misunderstandings and myths around the idea, thus creating a different distorted view. And that view can be distorted again by others, and so on. Itβs like informational genes, it changes and mutates. And everyone thinks that he or she knows the truth, which is not from the view of origin. More than that, there are a lot of people thinking that their βtruthβ is the only one and real one. So they do whatever they want, even if that hurts others. But they donβt bother with it, because in their opinion they have the right, they are better, they are truly normal humans; instead those, who doesnβt share their vision are nothing. Well, itβs just my opinion and my impression about some events of my life. I can be wrong at all.
Congrats with DD!
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I honestly haven't cared much about the feminism disscusions raging around lately, but the fact that even I, a man, know more of what feminism is about that most of those people, kinda scare me...
Not saying I know 100% about it, but I know the basics at least...
As for the deviation, good job on this one. I can see similarities with this and situations I have encountered lately, both at home, with friends, at school, etc... from me
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This is really spot on. Not only do men do this to women, but women do this to other women. In fact women are the worst offenders for telling other women that they are wrong for being a home maker. Women nor en can escape this kind of double standard crap. Of course some of the double standards are different for men. They have to be the one to go out and have the job, they can't be raped and so on.
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see that's what it should be about, but so many girls at school take feminism as an excuse to treat me like I some kind of problem for being born with a Y chromasone.Β
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Thank you so much for this ! I'm so tired of all that feminism hate when people don't even know what feminism actually is...
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I love how this appears as a Daily Deviation alongside a painted Geisha model; a Disney princess fanart; and a model in platform heels, a corset and garter stockings.
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If you're speaking with irony, you seem to have missed some of the boxes in this strip.
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I was trying to point out the juxtaposition between the comic's message of "girls should be able to be whatever they want" and the message inherent in so many of the other deviations -- deviations which show, time and time again, the same sort of girl: objectified, passive, decorative, that sort of thing. A girl who's looked at from the perspective of a man, who is not nearly so often a person with thoughts as simply a pretty piece of "art." The line of Disney princesses that appeared on the same day simply sealed the deal for me.
I had thought it was an amusing contrast that people might appreciate; that the point is lost on you is not my onus.
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