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I can agree with this, as much as i'd love to get the surgery i'm deafly scared too after almost seeing my family member die from the aftermath of a surgery.
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Yes! If you don't want to for whatever reason or can't it's fine. You can be trans without body dysphoria, and there could be other reasons too.
(No, I'm not saying you don't need dysphoria to be trans, you definitely do but you could just have social dysphoria and be comfortable in your body is what I mean)
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I think it's important to note that not everyone who is transgender is out to the people around them (like family members, friends, etc.) and that a surgery like top surgery (for FtM individuals) can cost around $10k or more depending on the surgeon (some insurance comapnies cover it or part of it, and others dont)
So if the person has bills, rent, and whatever else to pay then they probably won't be able to afford surgery. (I don't know what MtF surgeries cost, since I'm FtM)
And even then, surgery can be really scary for some people and people might have too much anxiety to go through with it.Β
I do believe 100% you need dysphoria to be trans, but surgery isn't a requirement to be transgender.Β
(But if someone is completely safe in their social situation, doing great financially, have a good doctor, etc. then they should at least have some desire to transition in some way?? idk.)
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if they arent out yet in real life, they shouldnt be out to the internet
thats low af
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??? Wtf?
If someone lives with transphobic family members or works with a lot of transphobic people, they're probably not going to feel comfortable coming out IRL. If they feel safe coming out to their online friends and followers, and going by a different name/pronouns then let them. It's not low if you fear coming out IRL but not to your friends or followers online.
You can block people who hate you online, you can't block people who hate you IRL.
People are allowed to be out on the internet if that's where they feel most comfortable. As long as they have dysphoria it shouldn't matter when and where they come out.
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if anything the internet should come second, ever heard of doxxing?
the internet is a much worse place
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Well if the first option isn't good for your mental health (or possibly your physical safety) then the second option is better.
I don't think someone using a different name or set of pronouns is going to lead to them getting doxxed.Β
But if it isn't too much of a private/personal thing, are you transgender? I'm not entirely sure where your point of view on this came from, so I'm wondering if it's just your own personal experience or if you're not transgender.Β
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i'm not trans (at least i dont think i am, i'm genderconfused), but the internet is much more dangerous than the real world
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The main reason I asked is because of theΒ 'if you're not out IRL you shouldnt be out online'
I get that the internet can be a lot more dangerous, especially because it makes identity theft and a lot of other crimes much easier. But if a person is minding their own business and decides to go by a different name and pronouns, I don't think it's a big deal. I highly doubt they're going to get their information leaked just because they're going by a different name and have a different gender marker on their profile. That's more of a "I hate you as a person" than "I hate that you're trans"
But that's just me. I'm personally out to my mother and brother, but not to any of my other family members (everyone else that I am aware of is anti-lgbt.) I haven't had any negative experiences online other than maybe two or three people in discord servers not liking lgbt people, but I was able to ignore them or block them so it didn't really matter to me.
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i dont believe in blocking somebody, blocking shows cowardice
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If they're constantly trolling or trying to piss me off, I'll block them. They can view it as a win if they want, but as long as I dont have to deal with their annoying ass anymore I don't really care.
I don't think we should block everyone who disagrees with us or annoys us slightly, but if someone is intentionally trying to start shit with you then blocking or muting (depending on what you're talking to them on) is your best option.
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No, if someone wants to start shit, start worse shit
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If it's in my server or my dms I'm 100% up for that, but if it's in a server that isn't my own I don't want to continue the drama and piss any of the moderators or admins off.
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If they get pissed theyβre most likely pussies
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If you don't feel the need to change your body to look a like the opposite sex, maybe you just aren't transexual? The words 'transexual' and 'transgender' litterally mean the movement from one gender to the other, so If you aren't transitioning, you're not trans, right?
I think the whole idea of "Well if you think you are then you are!" Is completely flawed, if you don't want to transition (ie: hormone pills/therapy, gender-reconstruction surgery) and don't have dysphoria, you aren't trans, find another way for people to pity you. That's like saying, "Well, I'm not attracted to my own gender, and I don't want to be in a relationship with someone like that, but I'm still gay." I really reminds me of that facebook post on r/crazypeoplefacebook that goes like "Yes I'm a vegan, yes I eat meat, we exist." Like dude, It completely contradicts your point.
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Well, if you are transitioning from your assigned gender to your true one then it is transitioning.Β
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You might be transitioning, but you're not 'transgender'. You need gender dysphoria to be transgender/transexual. That is the only requirement for being trans.
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I mean being transgender isn't the exact same as being transsexual, I agree you need dysphoria but this doesn't have to necessarily do with your body.
transgender = changing your gender
transexual = changing your sex (aka getting surgery)
you can be transgender and transsexual, but unless you get surgery you aren't transsexual. Its kind of like how all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles
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Alright, I get you.
But back to your main argument, do you agree that you need dysphoria to be transgender/transexual?
And how do you define gender? I think they're interchangeable, they are on legal documents,
and the dude who made the whole "gender is disconnected from sex" argument was also the
doctor who mutilated David Reimer and forced him to live as a woman.
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Gender is based on your brain structure of whether you have a female brain or a male brain or even A more "versatile" one, as seen that transwomen have similar brain structures to the average female brain and same for transmales. Also on the doctor note,Β that doctor didn't act under the right medical procedures and ended up mutilating a cis man. He also, wasn't the first person to observe the fact gender is separate from sex- as of the many transgender people existing throughout the human race. Even in chromosomes, some cis women have been observed to have a condition known as "swire syndrome" where the chromosomes are XY, yet the woman is completely average. This can also be observed more rarely in males with XX chromosomes, so I just conclude with the structure of your brain.Β
You can check up on these articles to learn more about it-
www.the-scientist.com/featuresβ¦
www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&β¦
ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/swyeβ¦
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All I have to say is that you absolutely have to be dysphoric. If you have certain conditions that do not allow you to have surgery or take hormones, the yes, I'll accept it. BUT, if you are, in fact, not dysphoric, then no, I will not accept you as trans.
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Why not just accept the person with what they identify with? Just because they don't have gender dysphoria doesn't mean you shouldn't respect their pronouns and what they identify as. If they wanna be seen as a boy, then let them be a boy. If they wanna be seen as a girl, then let them be a girl. Respect their pronouns and who they identify with.Β
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If you don't have dysphoria, then there's no reason to be trans. Shorter life expectancies due to all the premature murdering (The average L.E of a trans person is 35), social ostracization, nobody ever takes you seriously, public ridicule, loss of rights, just to name a few.Β
Not only that but it gives transphobes the idea that being trans is, in fact, a choice. My father, thanks to the mindset "you don't need dysphoria to be trans", believes that I'm just going through a phase. And that hurts me.
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well, my thing is, they actually need to feel like they're supposed to be male/female/whatever. you know.... dysphoria. if they simply claim to without actually feeling that way, then that's them just trying to be special, which i find hard to respect.
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Well, yes, when you put it that way then it's hard to respect someone who's faking it to be special. Hormones, and especially surgery, is a big decision that someone has to make, cause it does have major effects on the body.
I just think if someone feels a certain way you should respect that. You don't have to classify them as trans, but at least respect the pronouns.
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THIS ^^^^
Seriously, the only requirement for being trans is having gender dysphoria. It's not "transphobic" and it's not "gatekeeping," it's the truth. Actually, if you don't have gender dysphoria and you transition with hormones and surgery, then that will actually cause gender dysphoria. Saying you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans is actually transphobic because it makes being trans look like a choice when it's not.
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I completely agree, you put it better than I ever could.Β
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Thank you.
One one hand I can kind of get what theyβre saying since many trans people canβt transition for a variety of reasons. However, theyβre trying to make it seem like all you have to do to be trans is say youβre trans without taking medical definitions into account.
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I'm not saying you can't be trans if you don't have dysphoria, I'm just saying that if you don't have it, and can't/don't want to have the surgery or take hormones, then it kinda makes harder for people to trust that you're actually trans and not just a transtrender.
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But you canβt be trans if you donβt have dysphoria. Thatβs the only requirement to being trans.
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Well... Yeah I mean.... I know that XD
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i have medical conditions that make it impossible to do anything besides top surgery so unfortunately i have to suffer forever ;w;
but it's ok because my partner accepts me
he's gay
but
he's ok with my body
because he says that as long as i identify as a male (which i do) then that's enough for him ;w;!!
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I agree!!
Now, I may not be trans or dysphoric , but I want to say this.
I personally believe that in-order to be Trans, you need Gender Dysphoria. BUT I think that if you can't take hormones or get surgery, you are valid!
Some people, like me (using myself as an example since I know others have this), have conditions and medication that make this sort of thing risky. I have to take a strong birthcontrol (Seasonale, a pill that makes you stop having periods for 3 months on end via hormones),other strong meds,Β as well as having blood conditions that make me prone to blood clots (Factor 5). That, and physical deformitiesΒ (uterine, several kinds) soΒ and the fact I am a teenager makes this risky.Β This would make transitioning with surgery and hormones extremely risky to their health and wellbeing, and could be potentially deadly, depending on the severity of things. Those who are like me (or are worse off) and have gender-dysphoria, and can't get these for obvious reasons could still be viewed as trans.
Often these people may have chest binders, fake breasts (stuffing in a bra?), they tuck, ect .. Or go to other measures to appear as what they identify as. People who are gender dysphoric and cannot do surgery or take hormones due to physical conditions or medications they have to take should still be viewed as trans.
IDKΒ those are my thoughts/
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Having gender dysphoria doesn't make you trans. Hell, the word transsexual literally means transitioning sexes. Therefore, you're not trans if you don't actually transition in some way.
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Rina55 I know you blocked me and probably won't read this but whatever. Just wanted to say that I don't really agree with my original comment. Sorry about that.
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you do know, that by definition you are 100% completely and utterly incorrect, and that it is completely idiotic to ignore definitions just for your own opinion?
I'm a trans man, I'm not going to go on hormones since I medically can't, and I'm not going to get bottom surgery. I'm still trans.
I'm a boy. I have transitioned from living as a female to living as a male.
sorry I don't fit your "definition"
stop gate-keeping. it's transphobic.
Transsexual = "a person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex"
Transgender = "denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex."
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"Having gender dysphoria doesn't make you trans" That's literally the only requirement you need to be trans. And I don't mean literally as in just a random word people like to throw in without knowing its meaning. Having gender dysphoria is all you need in order to be trans.
"Hell, the word transsexual literally means transitioning sexes." And who transitions sexes? Trans people. Why do they transition? To alleviate gender dypshoria. There is no reason to transition from one sex to another if you do not have gender dysphoria, and doing so can actually cause dysphoria.
"Therefore, you're not trans if you don't actually transition in some way." What about the people who can't transition because they're not of legal age, or because of monetary reasons, or they come from a place where trans people are not accepted? There are many reasons why some trans people may not be able to transition, but they still want to transition.
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Okay, but the thing is that there ARE people without gender dysphoria who transition and yes, they are technically transgender. It's by no means right, but it's true.
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No. No, it's not true. People who transition without having gender dysphoria are not trans. They are either extremely confused or they are misguided idiots who think being trans is a trend when it is not.
www.independent.co.uk/life-styβ¦
Here's a story about a young teenage boy who was convinced he was trans when he was twelve and began transitioning, but two years later it turned out he wasn't trans and now he's trying to reverse the transition due to the effects it had on his body. He's not trans. Transitioning didn't do anything to help him.
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Yes, I agree that transtrenders are awful. And maybe transgender isn't the right word, but they're at least transsexual.Β
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Transtrenders are the ones who gives real trans people a bad name.
I'm pretty sure that transgender and transsexual mean the same thing.
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You think you have to have gender dysphoria to be transgender, which is fair enough. The term "gender" means pretty much anything at this point, so I don't really care. But transsexual? It's literally in the name.
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"You think you have to have gender dysphoria to be transgender, which is fair enough." That's not just what I "think," it's the truth. If you do not have gender dysphoria, you are not trans.
"The term "gender" means pretty much anything at this point" It only means "anything at this point" if you pay more attention to idiot Tumblr kids than actual facts and research.
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