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if they fake being trans they kinda aren't valid no
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If they fake being trans then they arent trans girls.Β
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Ok cool but people still treat them like they areΒ
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So? How can you know that someone is faking unless they tell you?
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There are different ways to know when someone is faking being trans-- for example in the case fo transmales when they say they are "lesbians" when they shouldn't be lesbians because since them they don't want to be a female right? so why say you're lesbian instead of saying you're straight?
That also happends with the name,when they instead of using the name they choosed for themselves they use the ones they had originallyΒ
Theres such thing called "Demiboy" and "Demigirl" (you know,when someone prefer the opposite pronouns rather than the ones of their biological sex,in those cases the things from above are valid)
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That doesn't mean that they are faking being trans. Like, at all.Β
People can like their birth name, there is literally nothing wrong with that. That's really ignorant. Being trans isn't about hating the name you used to have, thats honestly really stupid of you to say.Β
And trans men who call themselves lesbians aren't faking being trans, it's more likely that they latched onto the identity of being lesbian before they discovered that they were trans, and now they are at a crossroads and are having trouble accepting that they are a straight man rather than a gay woman, like they thought they were. If you dismiss that struggle as "faking being trans" I seriously don't know what to say to you. Obviously you cant be a man and a lesbian, but these people are struggling to find a label and a community and invalidating that struggle isnt helping them accept who they are.Β
Being trans isnt about "not wanting to be a woman" or hating the things that people used to call you, it's about BEING a gender other than what you were assigned. I don't care if people call me Suzanne. That USED to be my name, but I'm a guy. I'm a boy that people sometimes call Suzanne. There is nothing wrong with that, you know why? Because I'm a boy no matter what people call me.Β
You 100% dont get to dictate who is and isnt trans. Being trans is a huge struggle with identity, especially when you previously thought that you were something else.Β
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100% agree with you thanks for sticking up for what you believe. You canβt decide someone elseβs identity
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In what moment did i say that??,of course being trans doesn't mean hating your real name And liking your real name doesn't mean anything,don't read just what you want to read.
And i'm sorry but no,if you do that then you're no fucking trans,yes that may be the sexuality they had before they discovered that,again,doesn't mean ANYTHING,is like if i myself said that i'm straight when i' a transguy and i like and only like males,thats stupid (yes i can say that my old me was straight,but the me that i'm now isn't,but keep what first you thought you were is in fact faking trans ((of course if its talking about straight/lesbian/gay,because bisexuality and such doesn't count since they keep being the same))) Yes i know perfectly they are trying hard to find a label,but you said it yourself,a lesbian man is stupid.
There are lots of different cases,for example if they are just confused in finding who they are,i wouldn't debout that.
Again there are different cases,in a case a very dear friend of mine,he hates in all the word being a woman,apart from feeling as the opposite sex/gender (and there are a lot of reasons to hate that tbh-- but that goes up to all the kind of people there is in this world-).
You're really into the name thing right? Guess thats because you got used to be called like that,like me,but I prefer being called with the other name i decided to myself,i didn't explain well my point there i recognize that.But i know a lot of people that for example,say their name is Jazmin and then say in thir reference sheet is Anne and then saying they are a transmale,but their original name was a guys name,and that doesn't make fucking sense you know???
And people that fake being trans are transtrenders,they only do it because is "cool"when is like a fucking nightmare specially when your parents aren't ok with that.
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No actually, you cant do any one thing that means you "arent trans"
People are allowed to be confused, people are allowed to explore their identity. People are allowed to be WRONG about their identity sometimes, it doesnt mean they arent trans, it means they are confused. You dont dictate what trans people can and cant do.Β Literally nothing you have said is valid.Β
You are literally just being transphobic at this point and its gross.Β
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And what did i say??? Again don't read only what you want to read.
Just in case you don't want to i'll say it again,there are different cases and you can be confused about who you are.At that point theres nothing wrong,i agree with you.
Just tell me HOW i' being transphobic exactly? And probably in those points i didn't even express myself correctly,thats really common in me.
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Β I read what you said and its wrong.Β
You are invalidating trans people based on things that don't matter. You are invalidating trans people based on mistakes they make. Thats what I said in my original comment, which you can re-read if you want.Β
Invalidating trans people because they like their deadname or dont care about pronouns is TRANSPHOBIC.Β
Trans people dont have to conform to what you want them to do in order to be valid.Β
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1. Wasn't what i meant,i was just saying there are things that differenciates you from being trans and demiboy/girl,and even things that differenciates a trangenders with a TRANSTRENDER (they are in fact lying about being trans and you can't debout that)
2. Wasn't what i meant again and plus,is stupid,you can THINK you are trans but you may be just confused about who you actually are,and theres NO PROBLEM in that,everyone makes mistakes,mistakes are something common.I won't say you aren't trans for some random mistake you make,like if you first thought you were bigender and then you noticed that you were trans,is ok you still valid.
3. JAJA WHAT?? Look,if i don't want to use their made up pronouns i'm not transphobic,i won't use "xem" to refer to someone thats fucking stupid,and i won't use "it" either because thats offensive,you use that with OBJECTS not with living beings.The only pronouns i take as valid is He/She/They,nothing more.
5. Of course they don't,everyone is and if they aren't they SHOULD be free and have a free will to do what they want of course only if that thing doesn't make their life worse of make others lifes worse.
Sorry if in the last comments i didn't express myself correctly.
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You can't tell who is and isn't "transtrending"Β
I dont know when I brought up pronouns but "it" is a grammatically correct singular english pronoun and people can use it if they want. It's transphobic and offensive for you to try and decide their pronouns for them.Β
All pronouns are made up, that's kind of how language works.Β
You didnt acknowledge what i said about you saying that if people use their deadname, they arent trans. Lots of trans people use their birth name and for you to say that that makes them less trans is transphobic.Β
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Again...what??? I'm not deciding their pronouns,i'm just saying that I,I,MYSELF won't use their made up pronouns,and i'm not being transphobic because of that,and "it" can be as grammaticly correct as you want,but is for OBJECTS or for things you don't know what they are.
If you see that in that way,everything is made up,even the concep of time is made up.
I didn't say that if they use their birthname they aren't trans,and if i say THAT WASN'T WHAT I MEANT.I said,that people use them because they GOT USED to them,but who knows if they want to change or no their name in future??? Definitly not me,neither you.
Again people can do whatever the fuck they want and thats it.
Andwhat do you wantme to say about the deadname?? Pretty sure you only want me to reply to that so you can keep sayign i'm transphobic when im' fucking not.
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Not using someones pronouns is transphobic.Β
If you think that people who are trans cant use their birthname then yeah, you are transphobic.Β
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Oh wow,no,it isn't,tell me,can you make a transition between being "Xem" from being "Sae"? No,you can't because those pronouns doesn't mean anything.Ifyou think you are happy using those and feel special wih them then go ahead,but i' not using unreal pronouns.Like for real,if you say "I,i'm a "xem"" people will think you come from a tribe or from another plant because that doesn't exist. (Now that i think,not even tribes use those made uo pronouns)
I think they can do whatever they want,if they want to be called fucking Darth Vader they can go ahead.
And excuse me,but exacly how is that transphobic? Yes i agree is stupid saying they CAN'T (and i never said they couldn't,and if i did AGAIN THAT WASN'T WHAT I FUCKING MEANT,and you probably gave other meaning to my words) i'm not saying here that what you say is stupid i just want an explanation.
For what i've seen,if you call themfor their real name you're also being transphobic because "you aren't calling them how they want to be named".
But like we say in spanish "Para gustos,colores" and people have really different opinions for example you,"if you say they can't use their birthname you're transphobic" and then others "If you use their birthname instead of their new name you're being transphobic",ugh,i prefer to kill myself rather than trying to understand people.
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Either all pronouns are real or none are real. Language is socially constructed.Β
If you call a trans person any name other than the name that they want you to use, that is transphobic. Regardless of whether they were given the name at birth.Β
If you disrespect someones pronouns, you dont respect them or their identity, and that is transphobic.Β
Also tribes DO have different pronouns. Thats... how language works lol.Β
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In their lenguage,yes of course,not every leanguage is the same.But to my knowledge they aren/ s stupid as us making up new genders and sexualities "Emeralgender: feeling like an emerald" the heck is that for real.
...So i can be transphonic with a cis person? Woah. (My real name is "Valentina" and people have call me Isabella,so i can say they are being transphobic right haha,no,sorry i don't think that works that way,a friend calls me AndrΓ©,and he isn't being transphobic just because that isn't my real name.)
Ha,no,sorry but i'm not,if i don't call you "Sae" i'm not being transphobic because again,that doesn't mean anything.
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Actually all genders are made up, and ACTUALLY yes other cultures, including many tribal cultures, have more than two genders. So you are 100% wrong there.Β
You're being facetious, that's taking my argument out of context. If you call a TRANS PERSON by a name or pronoun that they don't want. It's transphobic.Β
Also no, because my pronoun isn't Sae.Β
My pronoun is He, if you called me she, they or xe, that would be transphobic. Because its not my pronoun.Β
Obviously pronouns and genders that ARENT genders arent included in this. Emerald isn't a gender, but again, you're being facetious and using hyperbole. Not once did I say that emerald gender is a thing. Because it's not, an emerald is a rock, not a gender.Β
Any gender that is a gender, (agender, demigender, boy, girl, genderfluid etc) is valid, and a neutral pronoun like Xe is valid, and not respecting it is transphobic.Β
Also, if you take any of these to mean "that person isnt trans" you are assuming. Just because they use an incorrect label does not mean that they arent trans, it most likely means that they are confused, you still dont get to say if they are or arent trans. Again, please try and stay on track of what we are talking about. This discussion is about your idea of "transtrending" specifically with trans girls and people who use their birth name, you dont need to bring other arguments into it.Β
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Talking about gender/sexualities that make no fucking sense,not about the ones that are kinda logical.
I'm doing what i got from what you said,and what if they don't want their real name but don't have a nother name kr haven't thought of something yet? Everything will be offensive for them since you.
Thats my fucking point,and i NEVER said you told me that was a thing,that was just an E X A M P L E.
Well then i'm transphobic because i don't take that as a pronoun,having common sense is transphobic now.
You were the one that started bringing up other things,like me being transphobic for not believing /using those pronouns.If thats being transphobic then i'm a transphobic,homophobic nazi that puts females down saying they are shit.
Look,the thing you aren't accepting is the fact that i said that transtrenders are faking,and you replied saying "oh,but you don't know if they are laying or not",this isn't about if you know if they are "lying or not" is about them FAKING BEING TRANS AND THINKING IS COOL.
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Yeah this coversation isnt about the ones that dont make sense so please stay on topic.Β
Obviously faking trans isnt cool, but like, its very rare that people actually do that. And You cant tell people that they are fake. They are the only one who knows that they are fake.Β
You accusing people who like their old name or use different labels of "transtrending" is transphobic. You dont get to dictate how trans people ask.Β
Not calling someon their preferred pronoun is transphobic and there is really no excuse, I didnt call you a nazi, you made that up on your own.Β
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Everything is transphobic in this world and i'm the transphobic king.
Enough,i'll just say i am so we can end this and you can cut calling everything i say transphobic.
Thats so supposed to be the...you know what? Whatever,not going to explain you simple shit,i' tired already of you and of this,and the weather here isn't appropiated to be angry,sooo...
Ahi te ves.
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enjoy!
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the transgirls that aren't vaild aren't trans
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what transgirls aren't valid? (excluding transtrenders bc i don't consider them trans)
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I think ya just answered your own question
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oh so transtrenders don't count, i get that
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Except for that ugly big ass atoms apple motha fucka riley dennis
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Well, if they're transtrenders then they're not trans
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