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pexyn [2012-10-14 12:20:09 +0000 UTC]
This is excellent. I love this!
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jedsart [2012-01-14 00:27:19 +0000 UTC]
One word NICE!
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JoeMacGown [2008-06-18 12:43:56 +0000 UTC]
wonderful story, I can relate to how using these pens without tons of pre-drawing (none) really opens up your mind and lets you explore in a way that can't be done using paint. That is because with paint, you have to keep coming back to the same areas over and over, and the process becomes less revelatory (although paintings can be quite beautiful). Great drawing!
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labornthyn In reply to mathismondhut [2008-04-12 20:02:13 +0000 UTC]
It's good to be here, thanks for the welcome...
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mathismondhut In reply to labornthyn [2008-04-17 15:23:43 +0000 UTC]
I like thestory behind the picture, but the picture is better...
My father gave me his rapidograph collection when I was 19 or something, and the first drawing I did totally ate me...it just ate me...thats the rapidograph magic....
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labornthyn In reply to mathismondhut [2008-04-17 19:40:33 +0000 UTC]
It surely is...I know that sensation...
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WAZA-LOO [2008-03-27 03:14:56 +0000 UTC]
This is one of the best things I've ever found on deviantart. It will be one of my favorite pieces ever, I bet. It's so powerful. Looking at it is like reading a novel full of important spiritual information in one second. One of the most interesting parts is the seemingly pure black background. I'm really glad that instead of filling in the black with a thicker marker you kept with the thin one. Filling in large black areas with thin pens is very meditative, and I can just see you sitting there for hours filling in that area, letting the pen wander freely as you explored your subconcious. The ink flows around the deity like energy.
Did you ever figure out why he came to you?
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labornthyn In reply to WAZA-LOO [2008-03-30 00:29:08 +0000 UTC]
Your words mean a lot to me. You help me complete the circle for this piece. Your expression of feeling that you read the piece makes me happy, as that is something I hope comes out of the work - a sense that it is somewhere within calligraphic, graphic, and symbolic. Thank you for writing this comment, and I am very glad you feel so strongly about this drawing. I worked on it for months during a time when I could only put pen to paper and submit to whatever came out, slowly, over hours of trance. It was one of the most ecstatic and memorable times in my life, all the more strange and intense for occuring entirely in an interior world. This is the trace, the shed skin of that revelatory time. I've been thinking about your perceptive comment, and it inspires me to remember the feelings I used to have, which inevitably fade with more conscious awareness and study of style and technique...
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WAZA-LOO In reply to labornthyn [2008-04-02 19:17:16 +0000 UTC]
I agree with Ken Wilbur who says that "bad art copies, good art creates, great art transcends." This piece is great art. It's daring to let yourself be taken into that world and be used as a tool by an intoxicating inspiration, like your deity. And I'm happy you say that this is the shed skin of that period in your life, because that means that you have grown through the process of creating this. Ahhh, just the thought of all the strange paths your mind must have wandered down inspired me to use only small pens on this [link]
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SunOwl [2008-03-15 03:39:35 +0000 UTC]
For many years I too have aimlessly...doodled (for lack of a better word). The sensation of pen (and on rare occasions pencil) on paper is what I crave and I habitually make curls and leaf shapes (some of which I notice you have).
Unfortunately, I haven't found a process yet, but your style is familiar to me and I'll certainly be watching your progress.
Good luck with it.
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labornthyn In reply to SunOwl [2008-03-16 03:58:31 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the insightful comment. I think their are just natural shapes that one makes when putting pen to paper in a non-premeditated state...it is an interesting exploration to just follow those shapes over many hours and days...
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SunOwl In reply to labornthyn [2008-03-16 06:46:26 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome.
Overall I prefer 'flowing' shapes rather than 'cornered' shapes. However, each has its place.
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MartinSilvertant [2008-03-11 09:30:35 +0000 UTC]
I don't particularly like the pose, but I absolutely adore the overall style and the impressive amount of details. Great contrast and wonderful symbolism. Absolutely amazing work!
Also really entertaining description you put there. It is very interesting to read about your trance and your search for this obscure deity. You mentioned you found the deity you were looking for in a book, but did you also find out the name and background of this deity? I'm very much drawn to the symbolism, so that's what obtained my curiosity regarding the deity.
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labornthyn In reply to MartinSilvertant [2008-03-13 21:24:40 +0000 UTC]
I appreciate the insightful comments. I agree with you about the weakness of the pose, looks a little stunted...at the time I refused to use pencil to plan the drawing, seeing it as weak and lacking trust in inspiration. It actually took me a while to accept the use of pencil, which I am now happy to use. Though at the time I did this, my overall drawing skills and conscious knowledge of design were totally undeveloped, so I probably would have done a weak pose even if I had pencilled it in first. The identity of the deity is somewhat obscure, being a fusion of hallucination and art influences. I think the painting I used for the main source was a Japanese Buddhist painting of Hindu deity Vajrapani. But I think the main wellspring of the image is seeing a figure from an ancient 14th century album of drawings in Turkey by a mysterious artists named Mohammed Siyah Qalam (the latter two words meaning simply 'black pen', in reference to the materials used in the drawings. These are extremely fascinating and strange depictions of shaman and demonic figures of central asia leaping around, going into trance, and performing various obscure activities)...
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MartinSilvertant In reply to labornthyn [2008-03-14 23:26:07 +0000 UTC]
I've never been that interested in Asia as a whole, but this does make me curious about its mythology. I have the feeling that it's equally interesting to Babylonian mythology. On a side note though, I've always been fascinated with the appearance of Shiva and Ganesha. I've been wanting to portrait them in a rather sinister way in one of my illustrations. It will come; Hopefully sooner than later.
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labornthyn In reply to MartinSilvertant [2008-03-16 04:44:48 +0000 UTC]
Recently picked up an illustrated dictionary 'Gods, Demons and Symbols of Ancient Mesopotamia'. Fascinating. Have you delved into the Babylonian myths? As far as Asia, the deep fascination the east has with ink is what draws me in. I can stare at paintings of dragons for hours, marveling at the freedom, the unleashed primal beauty. And you really should check out the Siyah Qalam paintings for some demonic inspiration: [link] Scroll down and check out the 'Shamans Dancing'.
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MartinSilvertant In reply to labornthyn [2008-03-17 16:53:12 +0000 UTC]
Yes I have. I think Babylonian mythology is fascinating. The Inanna illustration in my gallery is Babylonian myth. The link you provided me leads to a 'The page cannot be found' page.
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labornthyn In reply to MartinSilvertant [2008-03-17 17:21:25 +0000 UTC]
Is Babylonian part of Mesopotamian? Is Mesopotamian the blanket term for Babylonian, Sumerian, etc? I put another link below, which works. Check it out...
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MartinSilvertant In reply to labornthyn [2008-03-19 08:48:17 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is. Quite interesting, those demons. It reminds me of the African mask my grandfather has. It's supposed to be something positive, but it really looks like an instrument of Black Magick.
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labornthyn In reply to MartinSilvertant [2008-03-19 19:06:46 +0000 UTC]
It was strange for me to find that demons or demonaic figures have a dual nature, at least in Asian cultures. It is also funny to find that almost all symbols are turned to 'evil' by the time they reach Christianity. But as far as the dual nature of a terrifying mask, I recently read a very interesting passage in a book on ancient Chinese masks that you might be interested to read. Will quote it at some point soon...
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Kyuzo001 [2008-03-07 07:18:03 +0000 UTC]
my favorite part is the background. it's very impressive
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labornthyn In reply to Kyuzo001 [2008-03-08 21:29:27 +0000 UTC]
This was back in the day when I was compelled to ink every mm of the paper. The paper just gets lovingly cultivated like a field. I am glad you noticed it!
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labornthyn In reply to OoooKATIoooO [2008-03-08 21:56:12 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I think it is very curious how this piece relates in theme to the Green Tara painting. I noticed this as well. And I identify very much with your comments on inspiration and freedom in drawing. I am completely self taught, and in the beginning, with this piece, I just really wanted to unleash forces I couldn't see or understand. I always thought that art should be raw, wild, and animistic, and at that point it might show something of the invisible world of beings who are all around us, affecting us in ways we don't perceive. Over the past few years, through study of Japanese prints and Chinese ink painting, I have tried to 'civilize' myself a bit, and it has given me a lot more technical and structural awareness - for which I am happy - but after I smooth myself out artistically, I want to plunge back into the deep whirlpools of fury and rawness. Anyway, thanks for your inspiring comments!
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