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illcitvirus115 [2018-04-13 20:07:54 +0000 UTC]
LOL
1. Evolution is verifiable, and is an inescapable reality of population genetics where Creation is a fantasy.
2. We have other means to know right from wrong, so don't go telling me to turn to God for a lesson in morality. According to scripture, he has a hard time discerning right from wrong.
3. We don't need to, because there IS no God. He doesn't appear to exist, and apparently doesn't want to since all the Wholly Fables by Ignorant Primitives say he should be believed on faith alone.
4. Tongues is not a language, it's gibberish. It's flat-out gibberish. We have developed far more sophisticated and moderately comprehensive fictional languages like Klingon, Sindarin, the Black Tongue of Mordor without any need for possession by a "Holy Spirit" that evidently doesn't exist.
5. We have evidence that the universe formed naturally from nothing without any "creator" desired or apparent. A "creator" couldn't have poofed something out of nothing, fully formed, in it's current state, unrelated to anything else despite all indications to the contrary.
6. Keep your Bright Lord away from my children. Why you ask? Read Leviticus 20:9.
7. Angels and Men are entirely different kinds/species. The Bible is clear about this.
8. Hey no way, that's Church and State! Besides, if he's supposed to be omniscient, shouldn't he be already there?
9. There was never a "Christ" in "Chirstmas", which originated from a pagan holiday named the Saturnalia. Jesus' alleged birthday December 25th was lifted from another mythological figure, the Persian sun god Mithras.
10. There is no Rapture and Jesus is dead and buried. The Bible makes it clear that nobody is sure when Jesus will return. He's not. He won't, because nothing in The Bible is true and there is no God. Those are the facts.
11. Faith healing is a sham. A very VERY dangerous sham that should qualify as child abuse because "religious" parents are DELIBERATELY keeping their spouse from life-saving medication!
12. Just because saying "I said God said so" isn't good for anything, and God is a purely fictional character. He cannot speak to mortals. Anyone who suggests otherwise is deranged and brainwashed beyond recovery.
13. Another Stick and The Carrot argument. Christianity demands NO ONE stray away from the precious Wholly Fable by Ignorant Primitives.
14. God isn't real and he can't do anything. This is victim blaming 101.
15. Is Yahweh some kind of social media personality or something. Is that what you think? If that were true, have him tell me hello.
16. Such a dense fucking absurdity.
17. Objection. Unsupported assertion. The Vatican is an example of heterosexual adults preying on children and being sheltered in this "country".
18. The Bible is a compilation of manmade mythology, and the miracles therein and miracles attempted today can be proven to be a lie by ANY believer.
19. Are you shitting me? He was never here.
20. That's moronic, even for The Most Unpleasant Fiction ever made.
21. Wrong. Our Founding Fathers were Deists, the least devout form of Theism. They were brilliant men who knew better then to let religion rule over law because Theocracies in all instances and applications have almost automatically violated human rights and they inevitably always do.
22. Bollocks. How can you show me that he or men have faked them? What's the motive?
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ENIMINEMOE [2016-11-15 19:02:16 +0000 UTC]
This is very funny and it reminds me that I missed the lost traditional methods of healings someone like leeches, electro shock therapy, labotomy, and beatings with rocks and sticks; now, we just have boring medicine and drugs (oh well, it was fun while it lasted).
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to ENIMINEMOE [2016-11-16 17:05:12 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, so true. When nothing helped, they burned you and the disease simply away
Friedrich von Spee saw the process at close quarters as confessor at Würzburg. He mused that the authors of Malleus Maleficarum were themselves responsible for introducing witches to Germany through their "ingenious and subtly apportioned tortures" . Although von Spee found only innocence among the victims, and acknowledged that anyone would confess under torture, he nevertheless continued to see them burned at the stake without protest . He published an exposé, Cautio Criminalis, in 1631 and had the good fortune to die of the plague before the Inquisition could get to him. In his book he exposed the techniques used and enumerated the abuses. As he pointed out, the inquisitors" arguments could never fail. If the witch had led an evil life she was obviously guilty, but if she had led a good life this was equally damning, since witches were known to deceive by appearing especially virtuous. When she was put in prison a similar double-edged argument was applied. If she showed fear when she heard others being tortured, she was obviously guilty. If she did not then this too was proof of guilt, since witches were known to mimic the innocent and present a bold facade. Anyone who gave assistance to the accused or protested about the procedure was labelled a supporter of witchcraft so that everyone kept silent for fear of the consequences. During the trial itself, the replies given by the victim were not even recorded, so that even if she had a perfect defence it could be ignored. The torture came in two stages, only the second of which was referred to as torture. If the victim confessed during the first stage she was therefore said to have confessed without being tortured. If she grimaced while being tortured the torturers said she was laughing. If she passed out they said that she was asleep or bewitched. If she died under torture, they said that the Devil had broken her neck. There was no way out. Confessing led to death. Refusing to confess also led to death.
www.badnewsaboutchristianity.c…
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MountainLygon [2016-11-14 04:19:30 +0000 UTC]
Louis Pasteur takes offense to this.
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MountainLygon In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-11-16 04:21:35 +0000 UTC]
Mother Theresa served in India, where Christians are routinely persecuted (and therefore often lack access to basic medicine like painkillers). Why does her mindset surprise you? You wanna change that mindset? Fight for religious freedom worldwide.
You are correct that Mother Theresa was not a scientist. But Louis Pasteur was. In fact, most of the greatest names in science were religious to at least some extent, and four of the biggest--Kepler, Newton, Bacon and Pasteur--were young earth creationists. The biggest name in evolutionary philosophy is that of a theologian, not a scientist.
And what's with the dancing chickens?
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to MountainLygon [2016-11-16 16:36:49 +0000 UTC]
And why you think, that your god needs you as a liar? Is he that weak?
Missionaries take advantage of those in need, especially the poor and children, to convert them Most Missionary organizations disguise their conversion efforts as charity organization. Often in the press, we hear about “faith-based initiatives” but that is just a euphemism for aggressive and violent conversion organizations.
christianaggression.org/
Newton f.e. was more interested in witchcraft, than in christianity. Bacon wasn't a scientist, more a politician and a philosopher (or do you mean the painter Bacon?) in those times it was quite dangerous or at least unhealthy to question god at all, so many simply didn't. That proves nothing. And it was surely not good for the career. That's why it is told, that Bacon made secretly writings under a different name (some say, under the name of Shakespeare, what makes sense and they were more atheistic, or made fun about religion, questioning it...)... You forgot Galileo Galilei who admitted in the end, that the earth doesn't move (the consequence, if he wouldn't have done that, would have been, that the church would have killed him for that, so no suprise that he "believed")
"And yet it moves."
Galileo Galilei
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal (Who also believed in a kind of god, when I remember right)
Thank you for telling me that i'm right, but I ddidn't said, that she wasn't a scientist
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Green-Tea-Flower [2016-11-09 05:58:12 +0000 UTC]
I think Doctors should be legally allowed to deny Treatment to Creationist patients and suggest their patients Pray their Illnesses away instead.
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MountainLygon In reply to Green-Tea-Flower [2016-11-14 04:20:19 +0000 UTC]
Uh, First Amendment? Or do I need to copy and paste that Washington quote up there?
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MihTimak [2016-11-08 22:04:40 +0000 UTC]
You say: "No one knows the time of Christ's return". Well, Christ himself said that it will be very soon: "You will not visit all towns of Israel, and I'll be back" (Matthew, Chapter 10, Line 23; sorry for bad quoting - it is my home-made translation from my native Russian language). So, maybe Christ changed his plans, or maybe he came so quietly that no one noticed this and everyone continued their lives.
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Jonir [2016-11-08 09:14:03 +0000 UTC]
Nothing can come from nothing, so an intelligent being must have created it.
-So... where did god come from then?
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s---h---a---r---k [2016-11-08 02:53:50 +0000 UTC]
Well, evolution is a theory, but the problem is that so many people don't understand the difference between the everyday usage of the word "theory" and the scientific meaning of the word "theory".
Theories aren't just opinions but rather factual explanations of natural phenomena (for example, it is a fact that bodies are comprised of living cells, and we call this idea cell theory).
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s---h---a---r---k In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-11-08 22:54:38 +0000 UTC]
You misunderstand what I am saying. In the scientific community, "theory" means a fact, not a guess.
People who don't know about science commonly make this mistake and think that because something is called a theory, it must be a guess, when in reality, a theory is just as real as a law.
P.S. I am not a Christian, in fact I'm not even just a normal atheist, but rather an anti-theist and two of my favorite philosophers are Friedrich Nietzsche and Max Stirner, who devalued all aspects of the metaphysical, so it's kind of dumb that you linked me to that website disproving Christianity. Like I said, I'm not religious, and I obviously know something more about science than you since you don't seem to understand what "theory" means.
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to s---h---a---r---k [2016-11-09 09:57:02 +0000 UTC]
Simple Definition of theory
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: an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events
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: an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true
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: the general principles or ideas that relate to a particular subject
There are many theories proved wrong in science. With your definition, that could not be possible!
My favorite is Nietzsche, don't like Stirner very much, others said the same, better and before him...
You said it afterwards that you are not religious, believe it or not I'm not clairvoyant!
No need to get offensive btw, I'm used to that by religious people normally
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s---h---a---r---k In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-11-09 18:15:29 +0000 UTC]
Yes, that is the common usage of the word theory. It is not the scientific meaning of the word theory.
The same as how in the field of philosophy, the word theory means something much different than its everyday simple usage.
"The formal scientific definition of theory is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics)...One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed."
- The U.S. National Academy of Sciences
Yeah, well I got a bit angry that you automatically assume that anyone who makes the slightest contradiction to you is religious. Besides, I'm not even disagreeing with you, but rather just trying to make a small correction about the way you talk about scientific theories (since you're clearly using the word theory the same way creationists do).
The way you responded to my original comment shows you just saw "evolution is a theory" and assumed I was a religious nutjob who doesn't believe in evolution, when all I was saying is that it is a theory, but scientific theories are not guesses (e.g., hypotheses).
Evolution is both a fact and a theory.
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to s---h---a---r---k [2016-11-10 11:41:17 +0000 UTC]
YES, it is a common usage (not only a creationiost one) but also a scientific one! We are here on a common ground!?! The bible isn't science, like astrology isn't it. What's your problem???
-"Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially."
So not all, right? That means theories can't be facts always. So there is a difference between (scientific) theory and wnd waht is seen as "scientific) fact (like the revolving of the earth f.e.)
Okay, that way:
- Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as “true.” Truth in science, however, is never final and what is accepted as a fact today may be modified or even discarded tomorrow.
- -"Theories aren't just opinions but rather factual explanations of natural phenomena (for example, it is a fact that bodies are comprised of living cells, and we call this idea cell theory)."
- But they are also opinions! Think about the Quantum mechanics, currently almost only opinions, but still can be facts also!
'What convinces is not necessarily true-it is merely convincing: a note for asses.' Friedrich Nietzsche
You are sure that you are not Christian? You behave pretty much, like you are!
(Experience you know, not a fact/ truth (like it is meant in science of course, not in a common sense), but a hypothesis based on the behaviour of Christians here, that I had to experience here
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s---h---a---r---k In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-11-10 14:56:05 +0000 UTC]
Alright yes I am a Christian and the Academy of Sciences is wrong but you definitely know more about science than actual scientists do
Do whatever the hell you want, IDGAF
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lisa-im-laerm In reply to s---h---a---r---k [2016-11-11 15:45:13 +0000 UTC]
What do you want?
Typical christian behaviour, they also think, that offendings are arguments!
-Your words: "Theories aren't just opinions but rather factual explanations of natural phenomena (for example, it is a fact that bodies are comprised of living cells, and we call this idea cell theory)."
So the Stringtheory is a fact? It can be and it has many "followers", but still the proof is missing! Science! You wanted scientifical facts, I delivered it by revolving earth, fossils..
Nothing else! You don't have the right to tell me, what to do and what not!!! (Maher) So much about high horse!
Giving afterwards other explaings, when first used only one definition of "theory", is pretty cheap!
Bye!
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Solbyliet [2016-11-07 18:50:06 +0000 UTC]
I thought I might share a story, since it's kind of related to this:
a little girl had cancer, at a really advanced stage (don't remember if it was cancer or not, either way, she was extremely sick)
she was having chemotherapy, it had around a 70% chance of succeeding to cure her, and 0% if she didn't take it. so, she hated it. and one night, Jesus came to her in dream and told her she was going to be cured, but she needed to stop the chemotherapy for him to save her. she told her parents, and they believed her and decided to stop chemotherapy. they were happy their daughter would be cured. guess what? she died after a few months. and the parents complained to the hospital, saying they shouldn't have started the chemo, that's what prevented her from being saved by Jesus. and so, another death caused by religious stupidity and delusion.
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Solbyliet In reply to lisa-im-laerm [2016-11-08 17:58:42 +0000 UTC]
personally, I have to go to a catholic school....oh boy let me tell you it's worst than you think. also, why do I go to a catholic school if am an atheist? my country is extremely religious, and in my old school, I was bullied and had no friends because as a CHILD I said I didn't believe in god. they students bullied me and the teacher didn't go out of her way to stop them. most of them are now gone to the school I wanted to go to....but i'd rather not meet them again. so, the only other option I had, was a catholic school. I now have to repremend myself and what I stand for just to avoid being an outcast. only a very dear friend of mine knows, and he seems very interested with atheism (he probably wouldn't be my best friend otherwise.) so yeah. it's painful to be treated as an idiot when I say it's obviously evolution and not creationism. - _ - they never listen.....
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Marsconquers [2016-11-07 17:46:06 +0000 UTC]
That is a good idea.
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Green-Tea-Flower In reply to MadKingFroggy [2016-11-08 00:33:15 +0000 UTC]
It's called a "Psych Ward"? I always thought it was called a "Church"! Boy, do I feel stupid!
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MadKingFroggy In reply to Green-Tea-Flower [2016-11-08 00:47:53 +0000 UTC]
Ahahaha... but churches are where people kill their brains and come to die! XD Why d'ya think funerals are held there?
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