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More rambling about The Sun and Moon Show.

And Im going to catch flack for this because this brat is crazy popular. So let me start by saying, you all, its okay for others to feel differently and not totally completely love all the same characters you do in the same way. So chill. let me just have my say here and be allowed to express myself on my own deviation. And for the future excuses im going to hear about Lunar being just a child, he said it himself, he isnt a child. Childlike is a better way to say it. But being a child and being childlike isnt the same thing.

I really like Lunar. It was really sweet and wholesome to see Sun and Moon adopt him into their family. But if Im being honest, I was kind of disappointed to see Lunar lean more towards Moon--I guess the intelligence reminded him of Eclipse. It was disappointing because I thought he was gonna bond with Sun over things like being the mistreated one, since Moon has been physical with Sun, Moon has threatened Sun, Moon has been horrifyingly awful to Sun in times past. The Circumstances were strange for those times, but I thought Lunar was going to see a bit of himself in Sun and become closer. It doesnt make sense to say oh its because of the physical appearance reminds him of Eclipse. So then why like Moon more, since he's more like Eclipse in intelligence and a certain amount of detachment in how he comes off? And the thing is, Sun takes care of kids for a living. I think he could have been loving and nurturing to Lunar. And isnt that what Lunar wanted? Brothers who care and love him?

It was horrifying to see Sun's first memories, meeting the first person he saw after becoming aware, his brother, and being really happy to see him and then realizing right away that his own brother hated him and terrified him. It was so heart breaking. And thats why I thought Lunar would bond a bit more with Sun because Lunar has been in those shoes, wanting his brother's love and appreciation and realizing he wasnt going to get that and being treated horribly by someone he loved, but at least for him, it was a slow realization. For Sun it was an instant slap in the face after being conscious for like only five minutes. So no, Lunar, Sun is not like Eclipse.

Then we get to this arc where Sun is going through something and for the most part, he seems to be going through it alone. He's just been so scared and felt so helpless for so so so long, that its not surprising that there came a time, this time, when it all culminated in anger at how much his and Moon's lives have been toyed with and for what? And by Who? I mean Eclipse, yes, but why? What is this thing Eclipse has against them? How can they be enemies to each other when they havent done anything to Eclipse? Those questions are still not answered.

So Sun is bubbling with anger and anyone who knew him should have detected right away that something was up with Sun because he's not normally like that. Moon actually spends several episodes ignoring this issue because--he didnt know how to talk to Sun, you know the person he's known ever since his first waking moment? Its not like Sun was a total stranger to him. He says he's afraid Sun was going to get hurt (since Sun left the daycare to face Eclipse), but nothing shows concerning like wasting precious time, eh Moon? And I found it kind of infuriatingly ironic that more than once Sun said he was very lonely, he needs some friends, someone to talk too outside the daycare, and here Moon is deciding to spend time talking to the people he normally doesnt bother with.

I really wish that Moon had said more to Sun than its wrong to want to hurt these, people, yes they are evil and cruel, but its still wrong. Because thats the only thing he would say to Sun. Sun didnt want to hurt them, he wanted them to stop. How about telling Sun, youre angry and its okay to be angry. You have the right to feel that way--you should be angry, these scumbags keep playing with your life-- maybe we can talk through this together. But all he was saying was thats bad, thats bad, dont do it--thats bad. And then maybe if he was so worried about Sun, remove the weaponized barrels from the daycare and tell Computer to keep an eye on him and track his movements. Heck! When the computer picked up a huge amount of magic energy from the Bunker that Moon trapped Sun in, Computer asks Moon if he should investigate, and Moon says no, not even considering that something could have happened to Sun or maybe Eclipse had attacked Sun and Sun was trapped--by Moon. And the Computer told him where this massive energy was coming from--I dont understand why Moon wasnt concerned. Although it wouldnt be fair to not include that Killcode was a threatening presence that Moon had to deal with during this time. Killcode was changing but Moon didnt know that. So its fair to say Sun has made a lot of mistakes but I feel like Moon has too. Imagine how differently the story would have gone if Moon had stopped what he was doing to go see if his brother, whom he trapped in a magic Box instead of teleporting him home!, was okay.

So during this time, Sun becomes kind of obsessed with this idea that if Eclipse, KillCodeMoon and Bloodmoon just werent around, their lives could be normal, they could be safe, and happy. And with being the chew toy of multiple villains for so long, I really felt for Sun. Factor in that Sun is supposed to be the happy one, so not allowed to be angry I guess. He gets so angry that he gets this idea that he can do this, he can make their problems go away. Now you know something is wrong here, because normally Sun is too nervous, too anxious, too fearful to think like this. He does end up actually shooting Bloodmoon, and he gets punished for that. The truth is I dont know BloodMoon too well, and I could probably really like him, but I do feel that him getting shot by Sun was really well deserved considering the whole July 16 thing. He's a character that everyone loves, fine, but at least admit that he did deserve that, admit he's dangerous and has killed, and go on and think of him as cute harmless gremlin, but know the difference between your fanon and what's canon, and whats canon is that Bloodmoon hurt a lot a people and he hurt Sun. And he still gets to come back as some mental ghost that gets to haunt Sun for the lols now, and does that seem fair?

At some point Sun and Lunar exchange words, and Sun hurts Lunars feelings, I get that, that wasnt right to do. But i think what Lunar said was worse. Lunar insulted Sun by saying he's acting just like Eclipse. I like Lunar but i hated that moment because it seems that Lunar convenient forgot that he was the one helping Eclipse haunt and terrorize both Sun and Moon. Lunar isn't all that innocent, but everyone actively chooses to overlook that just because he's cute. So Lunar, your technically the one who's acted like Eclipse, because you've haunted Sun and Moon on Eclipse's behalf and at the time I doubted you cared about their safety and sanity. You never told Sun about the truth about the July 16 incident and you were the one directing Bloodmoon to go kill people in the alley for his bloodlust.

Innocent indeed.

And despite all that, Sun and Moon took him in and let him grow and change, and he got to know them even more. So he should have realized Sun wasnt being himself. And it cheeses me of that Lunar probably does know about those times Moon was Physical with Sun, hell! he and Eclipse were the ones putting that stress on Moon! They were trying to destroy these two! But Lunar's never called Moon just like Eclipse for those times he took it out on Sun. Lunar is more like Sun and thats in part because Eclipse built him with Sun's data which has his personality. So it felt like a slap in the face to me, when he said that to Sun.

It was the one and only time he had an altercation with either Sun or Moon as their little brother and he acted like this was some ongoing thing that happens all the time. And thats not True. So the little dummy runs away and ends with Eclipse killing him. Smooth move, Lunar. You might have been a tad safer staying in the daycare, especially that Sun didnt even stay there; after that incident, he left, honestly thinking he stood a chance against Eclipse. Okay, maybe thinking isnt the word.

Ive sat on these feelings for so long and ive wanted to express them, but I dont want a bunch of Lunar stands coming at me. But there are some fans of the show that actually do agree with me that Lunar over reacted to one time incident where he didnt even bother to realize Sun wasnt being Sun and showed absolutely no sympathy for what Sun had been through that let to this point, and no consideration whatsoever that he himself was a BIG part of that, and that kinda makes me angry if I think about it long enough.

But I do love Lunar, i love him being part of the family. Its just this moment in the show really made me...rather upset. Of all the things Lunar could have said, that was a horrible thing to say to Sun. And Sun, besides the nasty attitude, told him to shut up. thats it. Thats the one time thing that made Lunar think, thats going too far, Im running away now! And you all know how that ended. And Lunar's overeaction just made things easier for Eclipse to get that star.

Still, I do want Lunar to come back and I want him and Sun to patch things up and I want them BOTH to apologize to each other, not just Sun having to do all the apologize, and I hope Lunar doesn't just get written out of the show like they did with KillCode. This show has disappointed me--many times---but Im still hoping for good things to happen. And I really hope this happens, I really hope we get Lunar back and back for reals, not that "Okay Im fixed, goodbye now, I'm leaving!" crap we got with Kill Code. Which yeah, I can see KillCode not wanting to stay there forever, but he left so fast, that it left my head spinning that he didn't even stay and help out at least for a few days as a thank you for all Sun and Moon did for him and the sacrifices they made for him. Now that was disappointing. Because I thought Sun was going to get a heart to heart with him about Bloodmoon, but nope. Killcode couldnt even bother to at least warn them about Creator being dangerous. He couldnt even do that much for them after all they did, after their sacrifices, because it cost Moon his memories and there was a short time there were they didnt know if Moon was going to die or lose his memories, it was that big a a gamble. And Sun was left holding the bags, while Moon actually liked the idea of losing his memories and getting to start over without all that baggage, but what about Sun? He didnt think about how Sun would be affected, especially of that gamble had cost him his life. So I feel like Killcode didnt do a great job of showing any appreciation to them for going through all that. And then later on, computer tells us Killcode still has the nerve to go on thinking he cant trust Sun. Why? Sun let him be in peace and never showed any hostility the whole time Killcode was being rebuilt, never argue against it, never objected despite all he caused them and despite costing Moon all his memories. You think Eclipse would have put up with any of this? or be that forgiving and patient?

I want Lunar to come back and be part of their growing family and No! I dont want him staying with Monty! He belongs with Sun and Moon! Moon was the one who was supposed to be the one who built his new body so i dont know why they gave that moment to Monty instead, and i hated that because it was established that it was going to be a Christmas present from Moon, and that didnt happen. A lot of things i hope for dont happen in this show. It makes me think of taking up fan fiction writing to deal with so much disappointment.

So I got my fingers crossed that we get something better than that for Lunar, I hope this reunion is truly special, and I hope Sun's family stays together. Sun has been through so much crap, and at this point, it feels like he's been punished over and over and over again, and he was more than just punished for letting his anger out like that. In fact he is punished so badly, that he immediately reverts back into a scared and anxious person and ends up in a heart breaking, gut wrenching emotional break down and a flow of painful tears that even made the fans cry with him. Meanwhile every villain who decides to change just gets a free pass like nothing while Sun and Moon continue to make sacrifices and continue to struggle. Sun never gets a win--he just earns more and more trauma and more inner emotional turmoil to juggle. We even had an episode not long ago end with him wishing he was dead....That was painful.

Sun and Lunar deserve some kind of happiness and the love of having a family. Oh, please, show writers, dont disappoint me again, please.

If anyone can send this to the show's discord, please do so. Im sure Im not the only one who doesnt want Lunar to come back and just ride off into the sunset like KillCode did.

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More rambling about The Sun and Moon Show.

And Im going to catch flack for this because this brat is crazy popular. So let me start by saying, you all, its okay for others to feel differently and not totally completely love all the same characters you do in the same way. So chill. let me just have my say here and be allowed to express myself on my own deviation. And for the future excuses im going to hear about Lunar being just a child, he said it himself, he isnt a child. Childlike is a better way to say it. But being a child and being childlike isnt the same thing.

I really like Lunar. It was really sweet and wholesome to see Sun and Moon adopt him into their family. But if Im being honest, I was kind of disappointed to see Lunar lean more towards Moon--I guess the intelligence reminded him of Eclipse. It was disappointing because I thought he was gonna bond with Sun over things like being the mistreated one, since Moon has been physical with Sun, Moon has threatened Sun, Moon has been horrifyingly awful to Sun in times past. The Circumstances were strange for those times, but I thought Lunar was going to see a bit of himself in Sun and become closer. It doesnt make sense to say oh its because of the physical appearance reminds him of Eclipse. So then why like Moon more, since he's more like Eclipse in intelligence and a certain amount of detachment in how he comes off? And the thing is, Sun takes care of kids for a living. I think he could have been loving and nurturing to Lunar. And isnt that what Lunar wanted? Brothers who care and love him?

It was horrifying to see Sun's first memories, meeting the first person he saw after becoming aware, his brother, and being really happy to see him and then realizing right away that his own brother hated him and terrified him. It was so heart breaking. And thats why I thought Lunar would bond a bit more with Sun because Lunar has been in those shoes, wanting his brother's love and appreciation and realizing he wasnt going to get that and being treated horribly by someone he loved, but at least for him, it was a slow realization. For Sun it was an instant slap in the face after being conscious for like only five minutes. So no, Lunar, Sun is not like Eclipse.

Then we get to this arc where Sun is going through something and for the most part, he seems to be going through it alone. He's just been so scared and felt so helpless for so so so long, that its not surprising that there came a time, this time, when it all culminated in anger at how much his and Moon's lives have been toyed with and for what? And by Who? I mean Eclipse, yes, but why? What is this thing Eclipse has against them? How can they be enemies to each other when they havent done anything to Eclipse? Those questions are still not answered.

So Sun is bubbling with anger and anyone who knew him should have detected right away that something was up with Sun because he's not normally like that. Moon actually spends several episodes ignoring this issue because--he didnt know how to talk to Sun, you know the person he's known ever since his first waking moment? Its not like Sun was a total stranger to him. He says he's afraid Sun was going to get hurt (since Sun left the daycare to face Eclipse), but nothing shows concerning like wasting precious time, eh Moon? And I found it kind of infuriatingly ironic that more than once Sun said he was very lonely, he needs some friends, someone to talk too outside the daycare, and here Moon is deciding to spend time talking to the people he normally doesnt bother with.

I really wish that Moon had said more to Sun than its wrong to want to hurt these, people, yes they are evil and cruel, but its still wrong. Because thats the only thing he would say to Sun. Sun didnt want to hurt them, he wanted them to stop. How about telling Sun, youre angry and its okay to be angry. You have the right to feel that way--you should be angry, these scumbags keep playing with your life-- maybe we can talk through this together. But all he was saying was thats bad, thats bad, dont do it--thats bad. And then maybe if he was so worried about Sun, remove the weaponized barrels from the daycare and tell Computer to keep an eye on him and track his movements. Heck! When the computer picked up a huge amount of magic energy from the Bunker that Moon trapped Sun in, Computer asks Moon if he should investigate, and Moon says no, not even considering that something could have happened to Sun or maybe Eclipse had attacked Sun and Sun was trapped--by Moon. And the Computer told him where this massive energy was coming from--I dont understand why Moon wasnt concerned. Although it wouldnt be fair to not include that Killcode was a threatening presence that Moon had to deal with during this time. Killcode was changing but Moon didnt know that. So its fair to say Sun has made a lot of mistakes but I feel like Moon has too. Imagine how differently the story would have gone if Moon had stopped what he was doing to go see if his brother, whom he trapped in a magic Box instead of teleporting him home!, was okay.

So during this time, Sun becomes kind of obsessed with this idea that if Eclipse, KillCodeMoon and Bloodmoon just werent around, their lives could be normal, they could be safe, and happy. And with being the chew toy of multiple villains for so long, I really felt for Sun. Factor in that Sun is supposed to be the happy one, so not allowed to be angry I guess. He gets so angry that he gets this idea that he can do this, he can make their problems go away. Now you know something is wrong here, because normally Sun is too nervous, too anxious, too fearful to think like this. He does end up actually shooting Bloodmoon, and he gets punished for that. The truth is I dont know BloodMoon too well, and I could probably really like him, but I do feel that him getting shot by Sun was really well deserved considering the whole July 16 thing. He's a character that everyone loves, fine, but at least admit that he did deserve that, admit he's dangerous and has killed, and go on and think of him as cute harmless gremlin, but know the difference between your fanon and what's canon, and whats canon is that Bloodmoon hurt a lot a people and he hurt Sun. And he still gets to come back as some mental ghost that gets to haunt Sun for the lols now, and does that seem fair?

At some point Sun and Lunar exchange words, and Sun hurts Lunars feelings, I get that, that wasnt right to do. But i think what Lunar said was worse. Lunar insulted Sun by saying he's acting just like Eclipse. I like Lunar but i hated that moment because it seems that Lunar convenient forgot that he was the one helping Eclipse haunt and terrorize both Sun and Moon. Lunar isn't all that innocent, but everyone actively chooses to overlook that just because he's cute. So Lunar, your technically the one who's acted like Eclipse, because you've haunted Sun and Moon on Eclipse's behalf and at the time I doubted you cared about their safety and sanity. You never told Sun about the truth about the July 16 incident and you were the one directing Bloodmoon to go kill people in the alley for his bloodlust.

Innocent indeed.

And despite all that, Sun and Moon took him in and let him grow and change, and he got to know them even more. So he should have realized Sun wasnt being himself. And it cheeses me of that Lunar probably does know about those times Moon was Physical with Sun, hell! he and Eclipse were the ones putting that stress on Moon! They were trying to destroy these two! But Lunar's never called Moon just like Eclipse for those times he took it out on Sun. Lunar is more like Sun and thats in part because Eclipse built him with Sun's data which has his personality. So it felt like a slap in the face to me, when he said that to Sun.

It was the one and only time he had an altercation with either Sun or Moon as their little brother and he acted like this was some ongoing thing that happens all the time. And thats not True. So the little dummy runs away and ends with Eclipse killing him. Smooth move, Lunar. You might have been a tad safer staying in the daycare, especially that Sun didnt even stay there; after that incident, he left, honestly thinking he stood a chance against Eclipse. Okay, maybe thinking isnt the word.

Ive sat on these feelings for so long and ive wanted to express them, but I dont want a bunch of Lunar stands coming at me. But there are some fans of the show that actually do agree with me that Lunar over reacted to one time incident where he didnt even bother to realize Sun wasnt being Sun and showed absolutely no sympathy for what Sun had been through that let to this point, and no consideration whatsoever that he himself was a BIG part of that, and that kinda makes me angry if I think about it long enough.

But I do love Lunar, i love him being part of the family. Its just this moment in the show really made me...rather upset. Of all the things Lunar could have said, that was a horrible thing to say to Sun. And Sun, besides the nasty attitude, told him to shut up. thats it. Thats the one time thing that made Lunar think, thats going too far, Im running away now! And you all know how that ended. And Lunar's overeaction just made things easier for Eclipse to get that star.

Still, I do want Lunar to come back and I want him and Sun to patch things up and I want them BOTH to apologize to each other, not just Sun having to do all the apologize, and I hope Lunar doesn't just get written out of the show like they did with KillCode. This show has disappointed me--many times---but Im still hoping for good things to happen. And I really hope this happens, I really hope we get Lunar back and back for reals, not that "Okay Im fixed, goodbye now, I'm leaving!" crap we got with Kill Code. Which yeah, I can see KillCode not wanting to stay there forever, but he left so fast, that it left my head spinning that he didn't even stay and help out at least for a few days as a thank you for all Sun and Moon did for him and the sacrifices they made for him. Now that was disappointing. Because I thought Sun was going to get a heart to heart with him about Bloodmoon, but nope. Killcode couldnt even bother to at least warn them about Creator being dangerous. He couldnt even do that much for them after all they did, after their sacrifices, because it cost Moon his memories and there was a short time there were they didnt know if Moon was going to die or lose his memories, it was that big a a gamble. And Sun was left holding the bags, while Moon actually liked the idea of losing his memories and getting to start over without all that baggage, but what about Sun? He didnt think about how Sun would be affected, especially of that gamble had cost him his life. So I feel like Killcode didnt do a great job of showing any appreciation to them for going through all that. And then later on, computer tells us Killcode still has the nerve to go on thinking he cant trust Sun. Why? Sun let him be in peace and never showed any hostility the whole time Killcode was being rebuilt, never argue against it, never objected despite all he caused them and despite costing Moon all his memories. You think Eclipse would have put up with any of this? or be that forgiving and patient?

I want Lunar to come back and be part of their growing family and No! I dont want him staying with Monty! He belongs with Sun and Moon! Moon was the one who was supposed to be the one who built his new body so i dont know why they gave that moment to Monty instead, and i hated that because it was established that it was going to be a Christmas present from Moon, and that didnt happen. A lot of things i hope for dont happen in this show. It makes me think of taking up fan fiction writing to deal with so much disappointment.

So I got my fingers crossed that we get something better than that for Lunar, I hope this reunion is truly special, and I hope Sun's family stays together. Sun has been through so much crap, and at this point, it feels like he's been punished over and over and over again, and he was more than just punished for letting his anger out like that. In fact he is punished so badly, that he immediately reverts back into a scared and anxious person and ends up in a heart breaking, gut wrenching emotional break down and a flow of painful tears that even made the fans cry with him. Meanwhile every villain who decides to change just gets a free pass like nothing while Sun and Moon continue to make sacrifices and continue to struggle. Sun never gets a win--he just earns more and more trauma and more inner emotional turmoil to juggle. We even had an episode not long ago end with him wishing he was dead....That was painful.

Sun and Lunar deserve some kind of happiness and the love of having a family. Oh, please, show writers, dont disappoint me again, please.

If anyone can send this to the show's discord, please do so. Im sure Im not the only one who doesnt want Lunar to come back and just ride off into the sunset like KillCode did.