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Elaynii [2013-01-30 11:07:16 +0000 UTC]
dat 'stache.
Hah, the update is lovely.
This should totally be official! x'D
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Fireflyyx [2013-01-30 03:32:50 +0000 UTC]
amazing lol
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Wugg-Wugg [2013-01-30 01:45:18 +0000 UTC]
EPIK!
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TheCrazyParodyCow [2013-01-30 01:13:21 +0000 UTC]
Oh dood.. this is better than.. than.. Cynthia.
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Kyle-Dove [2013-01-30 00:51:10 +0000 UTC]
Aw you're amazing french bread don't listen to anything negative cos you got the most original and creative stuff on here <3
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CallMeGav [2013-01-30 00:41:21 +0000 UTC]
hahahahahaha
you're amazing <3
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gdpr-9488068 [2013-01-29 23:41:49 +0000 UTC]
SOrry you have to put up with all this crap, i really like the design
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OrdinLegends [2013-01-27 23:38:29 +0000 UTC]
looks an awful lot like Eclipse's main character...
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LostSoulsDev In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 18:31:53 +0000 UTC]
Doesn't look an awful lot like the main character, doesn't even seem remotely close, pretty sure you're just making a scene on purpose now for the hell of it.
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OrdinLegends In reply to LostSoulsDev [2013-01-29 21:42:05 +0000 UTC]
No, I'm saying it looks similar. It's an opinion, it's mine, it doesn't hurt or help his art in any way, I'm entitled to it, and I say it looks similar. There's no arguing over my opinion. It's mine to make, and mine only.
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LostSoulsDev In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 22:46:41 +0000 UTC]
Haha, great attitude there, good luck getting people to help you in things that matter. You pretty much just gave off the exact feel of, "I'm a brat, I'll cause shit just cause I can." Bye.
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OrdinLegends In reply to LostSoulsDev [2013-01-29 23:02:54 +0000 UTC]
I'm not causing shit. I said it looked like the trainer. Its, again, opinion. No need for a fight, or for anyone other than me and the artist to get involved..
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LostSoulsDev In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 23:16:36 +0000 UTC]
You really need to get off your that high horse. Don't want anyone getting involved, don't post something that a lot of people will disagree with in public, quite simple, you moan about other peoples work, they don't look similar, big whoop, curly hair, who cares, people have had that design long before you've come along. Ooooh, has similar colours, who cares, tile sprites have similar colours, don't seem them going around giving a pretty obvious accusation. Skirt, not the same colour, different styling. Shoes, nope. Socks, nope. The thing that changed my mindset about you was "There's no arguing over my opinion. It's mine to make, and mine only." Oh well, have fun with Alex, the person I actually help for them to make other peoples work, as I'll only refuse to help him.
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OrdinLegends In reply to LostSoulsDev [2013-01-29 23:31:19 +0000 UTC]
I agree! There's so much that they changed, it a very original piece. I said it had similar hair, colors, and dress.. as you just said? So why is this an argument?
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SunnyLedian In reply to LostSoulsDev [2013-01-30 01:40:04 +0000 UTC]
hallelujah. Bout time someone said it.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 02:21:20 +0000 UTC]
And if you look at his newest deviation, the hand has been copied: [link]
I'm not crazy, or paranoid. I know what I'm talking about. I don't go into these things without significant evidence..
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 11:20:54 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes. [link] was CLEARLY copied from this [link]
I think you should quit while you're behind.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-28 22:37:25 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, how long did that take you? xD
The skirts are the same style, ultimately same colors (slight color change, and moved around on the body), same body type, both have curly hair, dress and nose are in the same perspective. They also happen to be within pixels of the same size. The skin shades also happen to be near-exact same shades.
The pupils are placed at the same place in the eyes, eyes in same place on the head, eyes same distance apart, eyes same perspective, looking at the same place to the viewer, the neck happens to be a PERFECT fit, the arc at the top of the tie matches the same arc at the neck of her shirt, the bone at the neck is done near-exactly the same (different slant). The slant on the left side of the head also matches exactly.
And it also just so happens that no other female pokemon trainers, out of a couple thousand fan designs done, have such similar features unless they were copied.
The dress, torso, and head are very obviously (at MINIMUM) heavily referenced. The legs, arms, and whatever you call the area that looks cut/pasted over the top of her head with a headband added to it are in no way copied. However, it's very much so that they're, like I said, an "awful lot alike". I wasn't going to bring up the fact that it was very obviously stolen work unless something like this were to pop up, which it has.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 11:15:25 +0000 UTC]
"within pixels of the same size" oh man I just can't lol
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 14:42:18 +0000 UTC]
What are you even talking about?
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gdpr-9488068 In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 23:41:11 +0000 UTC]
Hey, don't worry, Ordin tried to make a journal about this, but everyone is against him LOL and everyone is for you xD
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CallMeGav In reply to gdpr-9488068 [2013-01-29 23:44:14 +0000 UTC]
Oh well, hopefully there's a lesson to be learned in there somewhere lol.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 16:55:39 +0000 UTC]
Your making fun of what I said... you think your so cool. Its not. Its lame and irritating.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 17:00:11 +0000 UTC]
I'm pointing out how needlessly cynical you're being of complete minorities under what is a character art, which, in my opinion, as well as everyone I've relayed this page to's opinion, looks nothing like the character that Azria drew for you.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 10:58:04 +0000 UTC]
Lmfao do you realise how much you're scraping the barrel for similarities? You did not invent the pencil skirt, curly hair, or perspective.
You are being paranoid. I don't see how anything is "obviously" anything. If you're going to talk about heavily referenced you might as well let me rip your entire game as well as every other fan game for being references for one another followed by being references of the official games.
If this had any slight similarities to your character, then all it has done is used a reference, of another hundred references. They look nothing alike and that's it. The only similarity is the blue on white. If you're going to get out ruler and start measuring pixels then you've really lost it.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 14:31:50 +0000 UTC]
You'd know all about art theft now wouldn't you. Pokemon fangames are made to reference pokemon games, otherwise they wouldnt be fangames now would they? And the common goal of fakemon artists is to seem original. There are so many similarities on this, its insane. I DARE you to find a single design that is as similar to my design as this one. You can't. Not in official trainers, not in fanmade trainers, not even in other genres. And it just so happens that the girl that looks so similar to mine also happens to be in the same genre? NOT coincidence. And it just so happens that last week was the first time he saw Eclipse? Just so happens that within the same week that he joins the Eclipse team, he makes a female trainer with heavy similarities to the female trainer? Coincidence. Right...
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 14:45:52 +0000 UTC]
They're really not as alike as you think. If they were inspired by Azria's art, Azzy should be happy. Cool your jets a bit, I'm not attacking you, I'm a bystander saying that they're really not alike. The only reason I seen this was because some others were stating exactly what I'm saying. I think you can let it go, they're not alike.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 16:52:51 +0000 UTC]
Your the only one saying they arent alike. Azzy should be happy, I should be concerned, and you should mind your own business..
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 16:56:45 +0000 UTC]
My own business? You're the one set on finding false parallels in two other people's drawings. If you didn't want it to be a public discussion, you wouldn't have posted what you said publically. If you really have a concern about the similarities, and didn't want to let this escalate into a bigger deal than it ever should be you would have sent this artist a note.
It becomes everyone's business when you post it publically on the internet kid. You only have yourself to blame that someone has actually stuck up for this artist. I don't appreciate bullying, and take a moment to realise that this is exactly what you're doing. Don't jump in at me with a retort, think about this in a broader spectrum for a moment, and see how childish you're acting towards this person.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 20:33:10 +0000 UTC]
You said "awful lot like", then said "You'd know all about art theft now wouldn't you." So I beg to differ, but anyway. My point is they're not alike, and if you don't want to start a riot then go ahead and note the person.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 21:42:22 +0000 UTC]
No, I'm saying it looks similar. It's an opinion, it's mine, it doesn't hurt or help his art in any way, I'm entitled to it, and I say it looks similar. There's no arguing over my opinion. It's mine to make, and mine only.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 22:17:09 +0000 UTC]
That's good to know. Your opinion is wrong. You're well welcome to a wrong opinion, you're also welcome to being completely oblivious to the facts others put before you. That says a lot more about you as a person rather than your opinion. Grow up a little buddy.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 23:11:20 +0000 UTC]
You may be "ascending to my age" by YOUR OPINION which you so love pointing out as if it's some sort of impenetrable form of argument, which you're not, but you're still remaining to act like a spoiled brat who won't so much as consider the possibility that the world does not revolve around him.
I'm trying to help you here, lighten up a bit. You're 14, fair enough, I can understand that the Internet is a big place for a young boy and his feelings. But honestly, you're "making" a fan game, just chill out and enjoy it and stop attacking everyone, and claiming everything to be yours. When I say "Grow up", I'm not telling you to age a few years, I'm saying that you should act a bit more responsibly towards others, and avoid contradicting yourself time after time and trying to pass off retorts by telling someone who's trying to defend the person you're attempting to bully to "shut up", and adding personal insults. As I say, try cooling it, and no, you don't own an ounce of everything people post on the internet. Azria made the artwork, and I believe, is the only one who deserves any input on this. And so, I'm done talking, just think over this is all I ask. And try understanding what people are trying to tell you instead of outwardly attacking them with pointless and misguided retorts. Catch you 'round buddy.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-29 23:21:44 +0000 UTC]
Okay, I say something looks like something else. I'm making a fangame. I'm a brat because of this? What THE HECK is going on in your mind? I'm not attacking anyone.. I simply shared my opinion that one piece of art looks like another. There are obvious similarities. You even admitted there are a good bit of similarities. Thats ALL I was saying. I'm not accusing him of art theft, I wasn't even mad. I wasn't asking him to remove it, nor am I going to. It is an OPINION. Its not a debate, its not for you to judge, or for you to go and start freaking out and telling everyone about. You disagree, okay. But you can take a chill pill after that. But acting like I'm completely crazy for pointing out similarities you and I both agree on is just insane on your part. If you were "trying to help" you would've either not cared or simply disagreed without being demeaning or acting like I'm stupid for expressing an opinion.
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-29 23:24:19 +0000 UTC]
The only person gettin' mad is you buddy. Expressing an opinion and baiting someone into an explanation they can hardly provide are two different things. Anyway, I hope your journal serves you well. It'll alert a heck of a lot more attention that I brought to this.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-30 00:18:58 +0000 UTC]
I wasnt going to point out who, what pictures as I wanted to save you some reputation and pride, but I see you've sunk to that level. This was staying between you and me with my journal, but you know I guess you decided you've sunken low enough, may as well hit the bottom, right?
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CallMeGav In reply to OrdinLegends [2013-01-30 00:26:51 +0000 UTC]
If it was between me and you why didn't you come note me. Or feel free to add me on Skype. Where you don't have your watchers to console you. Then again, I'm happy to see it backfired on you.
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OrdinLegends In reply to CallMeGav [2013-01-30 00:39:25 +0000 UTC]
It didnt, they have different opinions than me, which again is on my side of things because I say everyones entitled to an opinion. They have the same opinion as you, but agree that its okay to have an opinion and to share it.
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