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Description Rough detailing of at least one microcosm that may have taken place during the Persian invasion of the Hellenes:Two footsoldiers locked in combat. Besides Troy, the other most infamous Grecian battles/campaigns were the Persian and Peloponessian Wars.

Although the retelling of Troy and the Trojan War has made that particular military excursion popular in recent days, we have at least one Greek historian who claimed otherwise. Thucycides, a military historian of the 5th century B.C., comments that the invading army that approached Troy was not all that large, when considering that the entire expeditionary force was pulled from "the whole of Hellas". He also cites the invading army's lack of supplies and money, explaining why the siege was extended for a longer duration than was necessary (10 years). He states:

"...If the besieging army had brought abundant supplies, and, instead of betaking themselves to agriculture or pillage {to sustain themselves}, {and} had carried on the war persistently with all of their forces, they would easily have been masters of the field and have taken the city..... {if}they might have regularly invested Troy,... the place would have been captured in less time and with less trouble."
-Thucydides, "Peloponnesian War", Book I, para. 11

Special thanks to mistseeker for catching the omicron/omega mistake, and for elucidating further some of those historical details. Many thanks also to wingsofwrath for catching the Phalanks issue with this pic, as well as offering more insight into the military fine details (and for giving me my 262).
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Comments: 18

Wrriter [2010-04-07 09:12:08 +0000 UTC]

Ha ?

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Skitzobarber12 [2009-02-14 04:03:21 +0000 UTC]

I enjoy Marathon, although it seems lost under the glory of the next encounter with the Persians (also known as the last stand of the 300, even though they weren't the only ones there.

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Khylov In reply to Skitzobarber12 [2009-02-15 20:38:20 +0000 UTC]

I think the deciding factor in their loss was Nike..... shoes, that is. Without that athletic footwear sponsorship (not to mention commercial air time during the Super Bowl), not much can get done - in sports or in warfare.

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Skitzobarber12 In reply to Khylov [2009-02-28 03:50:15 +0000 UTC]

...
At first I was like
But then I lol'd

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Khylov In reply to Skitzobarber12 [2009-03-06 03:38:50 +0000 UTC]

That was the same reaction everyone had when I was born, so I was told.

Ah, btw, you read any Thucydides? (Ex-naval commander for the Athenians I think; wrote about the Peloponnesian War, military tactics, etc.)

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Skitzobarber12 In reply to Khylov [2009-03-08 21:30:49 +0000 UTC]

Yea I do, and yes he was. He was the one responsible for creating the navy that saved Greece, after the army had failed to stop the advancing Persians at Thermopylae.

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Endri-gol [2005-01-13 22:30:05 +0000 UTC]

To Battle!! Let the better win!! Thermopylae is my favourite brave stand!!

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evildisco [2004-06-19 23:17:28 +0000 UTC]

Nice piece khylov.

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cogwurx [2004-06-19 20:53:13 +0000 UTC]

Great action shots. The movement is very fluid and expressive. You can almost hear the sound of steel on steel.

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blackzer0 [2004-06-19 10:29:57 +0000 UTC]

in the large panel, the Persian soldier seems to be practising Brad Pitt's "power move" from the recent Tror movie. At least, he looks like it.

And you've really made him look Persian. And thanks for the descriptive text, very enlightening.

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Khylov In reply to blackzer0 [2004-06-19 23:09:43 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, what'd you think of the recent Hollywood retelling of Troy? Quite a difference between 10 days and 10 years. Still, I like who they got to play Agamemnon in the film; I've seen him play Goering in "Nuremberg", and he pulled off that German accent, as well as character, really well. He was also the uncle of William Wallace in "Breaveheart", with the scared face and blind eye, etc. Really good actor.

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mistseeker [2004-06-19 06:44:14 +0000 UTC]

Not only a very nice sketch (to which I'm used seeing from you), but also a very interesting accompanying text. I'm Greek myself, and though I love ancient History, I never got to such detail about the Expedition in Troy.
I have a lot of books and sources regarding the Battles of Marathon, Salamina, Plataies, and Thermopylae, should you need any help about it.

The comment about phalanx is quite true, however it was usual, when one of the lines would collapse, for the battles to become warrior-to-warrior in single combat.

In "Marathon" you have scribed to the right, where O is, use an Omega instead. If you tell me what exactly you want to write there, I'll help you write it in Greek too.

Overall, fantastic work, which I must

Nek.

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Khylov In reply to mistseeker [2004-06-19 17:55:20 +0000 UTC]

Cool, thanks man. Yeah, the text was a quick translation, and my Greek isn't up to par (should have phonetically spelled it out to myself, to see whether or not it was an omicron or omega. That's the great thing about many other languages, the alphabet hardly ever strays from the phonetic sound of the letter character, unlike english......how many sounds can one "o" make?). Guess that happens when pictures are rushed (have a portfolio that needs to be done by next week). But yeah, thanks again for the insight and commentary on this one, and for the offered help. I may call on your help before long! Take care.

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wingsofwrath [2004-06-19 02:12:40 +0000 UTC]

intresting concept and really waky expresions... although in real life this would have been impossible, since ancient greeks used organized Phalanks and didn't engage in sigular combat...

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Khylov In reply to wingsofwrath [2004-06-19 18:03:12 +0000 UTC]

But the line was broken, yeah,...... And, so as not to seem like I'm picking up my mistakes after the fact (e-hem),..... The idea behind the story is that a Hellene foot soldier is late to battle, on account of his having lost his shoes. Hence, I think I want to incorporate some aspect of his incredible speed, mixed with his totally "which way is up" attitude once he gets into the fray. In fact, he may be the reason why the lines get broken, etc, etc. But, in all actuality, the sketch started on the middle small pic, and then worked its way out, being added ont o by a seperate piece of drawings. I only incorporated the script idea after the fact. This pic sort of took its own direction at some point. Looking back on it, I would've done some panels a little bit differently. But, portfolio time, so need to just make the gestures, and move on. Thanks again for catching some of those historical points.

But, where oh where are my German aircraft? One of us has to start on those experimental aircraft.

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wingsofwrath In reply to Khylov [2004-06-19 19:29:34 +0000 UTC]

ok, here are some of the aircraft sketches... [link] there is even one based on the 262, although it still looks to "conventional" and may require some rethinking...

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wingsofwrath In reply to Khylov [2004-06-19 18:18:58 +0000 UTC]

I'll post them sometime later today...I still have some exams going on around here...

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Zlatty [2004-06-19 01:58:37 +0000 UTC]

crazy expressions on these dudes
nice work

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