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Same point with the Luna and Discord meme, Starlight gets all this hate, yet other characters that hadΒ the same circumstancesΒ are loved by the fandomRelated content
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Starlight. She didn't care for Equestria, she only wanted to take away friendship from everyone. She is overpovered as tartarus. Twilight, an ALICORN element of MAGIC is TIED with her. She was not reforemed, she was given an honorable position as student of friendship under Twi.
Luna. She was corrupted, was cleansed, forgiven, could not forgive herself, and decided to create Tantabus to torture herself ONLY. She DIDN'T know it would grow OUT of control and start threatening Equestria.
So, last phrase? Back at you.
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I disagree, she was geniunely shocked when she discovered that equestria was destroyed by her actions. her quote "I gave them true friendship" in the cutie re-mark indicated that in her mind she was giving her villagers friendships, so your statement that she wanted take away friendships isn't exactly true. "She was not reforemed"......? Dude, she realised the errors of her ways, regreted what she done, and creased the opportunity to change and strives to improve herself. Personally I don't care how strong she is
As for Luna, one blast by rainbows and boom! reformed. Also her quote after her nightmare in the beggining of do princeeses dream of magic sheep "My dream ended happily, this cannot be!" indicated she was aware of the consequnces
The reason I think Starlight is a better character is that she's more fleshed out. We actually see her backstory, there was more that went into her reformation at the end of the cutie re-mark other than simply being blasted by rainbows, first, showing the backstory allowing Twilight to understand her, than she shows Starlight the consequnces of her actions. Starlight shocked by the results of her actions then becomes conflicted with her life long idealogy and the opportunity to make a change for herself and then choses twilight's side. And while there's huge gaps between luna focus episodes and her development the Starlight episodes were closer together allowing more consistent development, struggling in social situlations and her depence on magic and making mistakes but continues to learn and strive to improve herself. And while post luna eclispse Luna's personality becomes bland and her character is reduced to "wah, I feel guilty" and showed little progress despite the amount of time that has passed since her introduction. Starlight's guilt is more torabable to me as a viewer as it is still recent but continues to take steps forward and shows a lot more personality
Anyway that's my opinion on the matter, even if you disagree, I hope you have a better understanding on my position and at the end of the day it's all subjective, nice chat 
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So, what you saying is, despite nearly destroying the world, she just said "sorry" and was forgiven? Key words, "in her mind". She was really deluded. So from "real" point of view she was taking friendship AWAY. Reformation is not saying sorry and being rewarded. It's about regretting things, and working hard to make up for past mistakes. Yeah, don't care further, if you wish. Twilight, who bears the Element of Magic, tutored by Princess Sunny herself, and later even ascended to alicorn cannot overpower some unicorn in a tug of war. While she managed to pull her quarter of alicorn power in tug of war with Tirek, who had all the regular magic of Equestria.
Luna was corrupted, and despite not being in control she regretted it, and she was surprised to not have Tantabus eat away at her.
My problem is that I don't believe Starlight's character development.. Twilight BARELY managed to TALK Glimmer out of doing it. She couldn't even stop Starlight.
My point is, Starlight is overrated.
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Oh so like how Luna just said, I'm sorry and was instantly forgivin and givin back her original position of power as co-ruler of equestria, meanwhile the mane 6 didn't forgive Starlight straight away and had a long disscussion on what to do with her.Β
YES in real point of view she was taking away friendships, but dude, you said that is what she wanted when like I said in her mind she thought she was giving them true friendships
"Reformation is not saying sorry and being rewarded. It's about regretting things, and working hard to make up for past mistakes" Dude, did you even see any of the Starlight focus episodes post the cutie remark? That's literally what she does, regret her past actions and strive to improve herself (Did you even see season 6?)Β
Personally I think Starlight has the benefit of more episodes involving her development close together instead of big gaps between like Luna showing consistent development and the process of her reformation and has more personality other than "I'm gulity". Luna lacks backstory to understand her position, it was just briefly explained through narration and her development was inconsistent, one there being huge gaps between her episodes, and her showing progress in Luna eclipse and then being set back to squre one in Do princesses dream of magic sheep. And her personality has been reduced crying about her pastΒ
I personality don't see how Starlight is overrated as I've encountered far more hate for her
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Luna was not in control, she was corrupted, then cleansed, and she did not forgive herself.
Starlight on the other hand... hoof, had shown that she made all the decisions herself, and I did not feel that she was really dissapointed in herself for trying to end the world. More episodes to move on with character, not showing real redemption.
I'ts not how much(number) people love her, it's how strongly they defend her. She was bad, and she is overpowered. Writers dropped the ball on this one. Yes, there must be conflict for the story, heroes must struggle, but from what I've seen, Star's character is not really redeamed, and she's stronger than Twi. I'm talking in simularity. Twilight tied wih her when she was alicorn, if she was still a unicorn, Glimmer would flatten her.
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What for? I merely state the facts. Luna had no friggin idea that Tantabus would attack Equestria, she made it to turture HERSELF ONLY, when Starlight outright attacked mane six, and did her f*cking best to ignore ALL evidence that they the whole kingdom. She was still f*cking doubting when Twilight "presented" the "final world", what would happen if mane six wasn't around.
There is a difference between a runaway construct(meant for internal consumption only), and intent of a mare to take away a safeguard of the realm. Luna couldn't forgive herself for giving in to miasma, Starlight didn't believe she was wrong to the very last moment.
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Exactly. You make good points.
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I respectfully disagree and there's nothing wrong with defending a character even if it's one you don't like, I stand by with what I said since it's what I clearly saw in the episodes
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Bear with me here, as this is just my personal headcanon from what I've observed, but I think Starlight was able to compete evenly with Twilight because she hasn't been an alicorn for very long. Going by appearances, she still has the build of a normal pony rather than an alicorn like Celestia, Luna or Cadence. I don't think Twilight is as powerful as they are and hasn't begun to realize her full potential as an alicorn.
Just my $0.02
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What about when she could tie with Tirek? She seems to have equal output as Celestia, Luna or Cadence.
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honestly, i'm glad Starlight got reformed, because as a villain, she SUCKED! her whole motivation was beyond pathetic, up to the point of almost being laughable (i mean, she turned into a power-hungry psycho just 'cause she "lost" a friend?! give me a break, Josh Haber!), and her overall redemption just didn't feel genuine. thankfully, she's getting better and better now
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Take my advice--watch the show for the show.Β Fandoms are not considered when studying mis-en-scene.
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I couldn't agree more. Starlight needs more love. 
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Very good points.
Again, Luna already suffered a 1,000 years old sentence; she already paid for her crimes.
Starlight is basically on parole.
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Here's the thing I've noticed with the Starlight hate over the past year or so: It doesn't make a lick of sense. It never did, and it never will.Β
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huh... well thats interesting, because i don't watch the show i never see thees things.
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Im not sure that Glimmy's redemption was too rush because she are pony, not human. Pony's relations with the others of her species are different, they are herd animals. And if she was whole life in false forced friendship and felt first time real friendship and care from other ponies then... I trust that redemption.
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I'd sooner describe Starlight as polarizing than hated.
And Luna likely spent a year or two with Tantabus without it destroying anything. Maybe she figured she can handle it (she did have proof).
Not hating, just giving some counterarguments.
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I think some of this comes from the fact that Luna has been around WAY longer and that they can respect her actions and not Starlight's just because of an overall longer period of time on the show. And also probably because of how Luna is WAY more of a favorite than Starlight...
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Luna is so overrated.Β
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The difference here is that Luna never meant any harm. You have no idea what it feels like to be cast in the shadow of a sibling; Luna just felt neglected and disrespected, and that allowed for darker magic to seep into her, so what SHE tried to do wasn't entirely her fault. Starlight lost ONE friend, and was too chicken to even try making others, and she brainwashed an entire village, and then decided to change a fixed point in time for petty revenge. Call us crazy, but somethings are better left up to morals than what they actually do.
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Agreed
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I like Starlight and Discord and Luna, even if they were bad before.
They want to change for the better and the really do MEAN it.
So, I believe them and I will forgive them.
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Definitely a case of "Shots fired!" Starlight's redemption was rushed, but I think the problem with Luna is that they never intended at all to do anything with her post redemption, but then they hastily put something in when they realized how popular Luna had become. And "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?" was likely intended to readdress that they hadn't fully tackled Luna's redemption arc.
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yes but apparently luna is hot or something
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well the only other explanation to why people like her is that shes "edgy omg"
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That's the reason why I'm not a Luna fan.
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I like luna. but that's because I looped lullaby for a princess like 400,000 times
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Why? I it because of the animation?
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that and I liked the backstory, its what got me into mlp
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That's great to hear!Β Β
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