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full title: "and we won't talk on the way home"spending time with people is the make or break of whatever you have with them. friendship, relationship, love, reliance. i wont go into all the details of what the red, blue and white lines mean but i know if you consider over who and where they are, their shapes and their color, then you'll get their message all the same. the thoughts are scattered around, like small clouds hanging in the air.
i sat opposite these two people on a recent trip, doing what i usually do in airports and public spaces - take covert photos of people without them knowing.
i think we've all had these moments, nothing left or nothing more to say, feelings about or for someone that we'll never share with them, things we think that we'll never act upon, moments that last for years and leave us emptier than beaches at low tide.
"and we won't talk on the way home, and maybe we'll take the drive home in silence too, maybe silence is a band-aid for what is hurting hard, and maybe tomorrow we can pretend that all it meant was 'i love you' in another fucked-up way."
peace
xam o-›
largeley completed listening to:
kings of convenience - dont know what i can save you from (royksopp remix)
jimmy chamberlain project - loki cat
finley quaye/william orbit - dice
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i really love this one!
their expression + ur manipulation is successul, u know, in order to get the meaning/idea.
but, says that "..costantly talking isn't necessarily communicating"
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This is fantastic work man. I like where you are going with this.
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i was interested to see people's thoughts on this.. its the first time i've put down on 'paper' what i sometimes 'see' in my head.. thanks for stopping by and the support.
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and the silence between us and how we were so close kills everything in me.
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the idea with circles is surprising... this work has a very special feeling and I really really like it... something to come back to
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Your pieces always make me stop and think. In fact, I just spent more time analyzing this then I did the last 10 deviations I've looked at.
Well done, per usual. I think that you've uncovered something that most people come across, but never give a second thought.
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boom.. you are, as you know, always a welcome sight around here! and your words floor me! 
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fantastic. i love the little blocks of text which really help to emphasise the idea behind this peice. outstanding
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i love it great job it reminds me of well me lol 
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yup, i think we all can identify with that! thanks!
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AMAZING and unfortunately all too real!!! GR8 piece!! 
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aye, aint it so!
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Your welcome Hun keep up the great job!!! 
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yep, life. fleeting too.
many thanks sir!
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I too think this is brilliant. I'm not just saying that either, I really do like it 
I get this feeling with friends a lot. Like when we've been hangin' out all day, have done everything we can think of to do, and I just feel like telling 'em to get their ass home already! Maybe I just have a low tolerance for hanging out with people for a fixed amount of time... or maybe certain friends of mine just like to stay too long, lol. One of the two. Anyway, I know it's not the same, because I don't have a girlfriend and my situation is more something that happens with people 16 and younger (or do adults hang out all day with friends too? I dunno 
So anyway, yea, I really like it!
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good thoughts.. well, yep, i think if you chose the right friends and work on your frinedships you will have those 'all day and all night' times, happens to me, sometimes friends are 'activity partners' and sometimes theyre just 'friends' where you can sit there all day with each other and not 'do' anything but just be with each other. im glad you can relate to this becuase even though i used (on the surface) a situation of a girl/boy relationship.. theres lots of times where we all get or will get into this type of thing.. it can be with our parents, friends, even our brothers or sisters.
i think sometimes we can even get into this 'place' by not sharing thougths or words because we're frightened of how we'll be seen or thought of.. and as scary as it is to open our mouths and be true to what we think or feel it really is the best thing.. staying silent, locking ourselves in rooms, never sharing ourselves is prbly the really selfish thing that we can do to others. course, its easy to talk about it and very hard ot do sometimes coz its so eay to do. we like to think of it as protection. but the truth is, theres nothing to be 'protected' from, nothig that will REALLY hurt us, sure things can affect us deeply, but only becuase we chose at some point to allow that affect effect to happen.
sure people will want to spend time with you and not want to leave.. but take that as a compliment.. they think youre that good, worth the time and that you have something they want to be in the presence of. you may not have thought of it like that before so it might sound weird.. but think about it.. why do people want to spend more time with you? and then the flip side, why do you want to *not* spend more time with people?!
its all good.. thanks for your thoughts space-man, always good to hear 'em
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lol "space-man" thats a good one
and your right, I'll think about it more next time this happens to me, thanks for the response.
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welcome. lifes a blast once we have confidence in the game of it all!
and i could harldy call ya a space-boy now could i, coz youre not a boy.. guess i could try 'space-cadet' haha!
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I like this because it expresses the isolation of the situation
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sometimes two people can get to the same place on the same subject and yet be totally alone with what they are going thru.. im not sure if that is sad or i just 'is'. but it seems a common experience.
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ok...im gonna ask you things before i maybe leave an art related comment
How far were they sitting apart? Were they both in the same shot to begin with? if not how far apart in time did you take the shots?
Nicely sneaked shots btw
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what you sees is whats you gets
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hmm ok
nicely put together. It indeed made me think!
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hehe
yup im not willing to make a fool of myself in public with my thoughts today 
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you're so conscious of this 'what others may think of my words' thing.. and yet your visual art 'vocabulary' would seem to suggest anything but a foolish nature , far from it.. more of a blithe spirit meandering..
and in MY little corner of DA your thoughts are always welcome..
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you're so conscious of this 'what others may think of my words' thing.. and yet your visual art 'vocabulary' would seem to suggest anything but a foolish nature , far from it.. more of a blithe spirit meandering..
and in MY little corner of DA your thoughts are always welcome..
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fork on the wrist
- _ - Elizabeth Anka Vajagic - Where You Wonder - _ -
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well youre right, i am foolish by nature! hehe! i appreciate your comment, mucho gracias.
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ok im back.... *puts on brave face and gives self a kick up the arse*
im getting the feeling he was tapping his foot but not to the music.. that makes me feel edgy
from your lines in the mid regons in getting sexual tension 
nice placement of text and movement with your line work btw. The red, white and blue kinda makes me think they are British but thats purely because we really dont say what we think right? bottled emotions....
so yea you captured a great moment in time...where its past the worst of the no talking bit, past the lets try to make this work... past the point of no return. Just walk away
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this is what i love about my art.. if you'll excuse the pretentious knobhead sounding way that comes out! the thoughts people share.. the situations they see, the feelings they can muster..
yeah, he has this big knot in his stomach and she;s gone all 'zig zaggy' there too.. so much tension.. i think youre right about men sometimes bobbing their foot to release enegry or 'thoughts' thru physical movement, i have a friend, who, when he's not happy has to chop wood. 'its better than thinking about it,' he always says. have you ever had someone do that foot-tapping thing in front of you?
he chose music, she chose a book, i'm still thinkning about what differences there are there, and yep, that red/white/blue combo might well be a freudian trait in me alluding back to how we all become a 'little bit british' in some respects with dealing with this.
i really enjoyed reading your encapsulation..'past the worst of the no talking..[but]..past the lets try to make this work... past the point of no return. Just walk away.'
it's an awful place to be in with anything/anyone.. you've left, but you're still there.
and just as i was about to hit 'send' i had a further thought.. why doesnt it feel as intense the opposite way around.. when someone isnt physically here but they tell you they are 'with' you?! hehe
thanks inkle! this is what makes it all worth it.
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ahh you were going for stomachs 
yea that is a cackky place to be in, and yet i know people that stay there for years
oh for the physical here
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yeah.. i guess i identified with the guy in that his tension would be in the knotted stomach and his release would be to expend the energy thru kicking something.. i remember kicking things (not people) when i was younger and didnt know how to deal with frustration or pain. his 'audio' is loud and he wants to drown out what he is thinking and feeling. kinda like going to a pub and having a drink..
she's go her tension too.. i drew it different beacuse i saw the feminine side as flowing-out tension as opposed to that withdrawing in type.. she has her audio.. but her choice is to drown her own inner-voice is to create yet another inner voice (the narrative of reading) and listen to that instead.. i dont know, as a woman, i have to ask.. does that make sense to you?
you don't see an 'outgoing' flow for her tension.. but from her bag is a spiral.. the excedrin (great pain killer her ein america.. its aspirin and caffeine and paracetamol in one! woohoo!) and i didnt mean that women in general rely on drugs.. it was the allusion, again symbolic, that the feminine tends to find solace or release by taking something *in* to herself.. it didnt have to be excedrin.. whether that was food, advice from a friend, putting a favorite sweater on, a warm drink, i guess it could have been chocolate cake! although i didnt think having that with her while waiting for the plane was too realistic! again.. not saying women are dependant on those things.. just the symbolic choices.. he turns inside and fires out his 'arrows' (i.e. kicking) and she tries to find things that will make her feel better. i guess on second thoughts one of her thoughts could have been 'i need to call sarah when i get home'.
i know it took some effort to commit it to 'paper' but you know what?.. you did it! that says a lot.. and yeah.. i know ppl stay in that airport concourse for years too.. waiting for a plane that will never come.. they should rip up their ticket and go by train, car or walk.. but it aint happenin'!
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yea i see how u showed their tension with the lines...i just interpreted the positioning of them incorrectly
I think the man hitting out at something stems from cavemen days, but now we dont run about and vent that excess energy so its easy to hit out at other stuff (tapping of feet )
I used to as a kid have a problem with containing my anger...it would take tons to set me off but then i would just fly...hence my parents calling me 'Spit' 
So maybe i have a few to man genes with regaurds to venting frustration? i follow what you mean about her reading altho thats not really how i deal with stuff
I wondered what excedrin was, should of mentioned it in the first comment.
Hmm i like the way you interpret how females deal with stuff
Personally i find release in screaming, exercise or talking to someone (hearing/seeing my own thoughts out loud) but with out being told how to sort it, or totally burying myself in something like a piece of art (basically to stop thinking, which is like her reading im guessing) altho that doesnt cure the tension completely it just masks most of it till a later date
Maybe im not like other girls
Random thoughts... why did you choose the name Sarah?
I wouldnt of put my thoughts down if u hadnt encouraged me, its nice to get back your thoughts from what ive written too. So Thanks!
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well firrst off.. i dont think you interpreted anything 'incorrectly' as thats just not what art is about.. it was cool to read how you read them and then give you my take on what they meant for me. that 'energy' in his impulse to kick, a primeval way to vent frustration and her finding solace in 'not thinking' as you put it are such different ways to deal with things. its a miracle we can ever feel like we understand each other!
your thoughts are duly noted and appreciated!
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aw, youre too kind, really! i do agree, there is something unrequieted within us both that means we can never truly empathize with the female/male condition.
c'est la vie non?!
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as are yours!
i dont think men and women will ever understand each other
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Jesus, xam. This is terrible/wonderful. I don't mean terrible, as in badly done. I mean... the psychic/emotional rawness and closeness of it. It's the kid of thing we all know, we all live in this invisible, overlaid mental "world". And you've just blown the fucker wide open for all to see.
Been missing you, man. Good to see ya back.
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